How likely for save act to pass senate?

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

Yes, she gets to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is forgetting Trump's birther vendetta against Obama. Even when Obama showed his birth certificate they said it was fake. When the state official said it was real and official, they said she was lying.

That's what it is going to be like. All the red stare officials denying the validity of blue state documents.

Exactly this.

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There are so many errors on these older forms.

Even my son's birth certificate has a misspelled name for my husband... Brain instead of Brian.

Any slight issue and you may never vote again if you are Blue in a Red state.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

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Here is where to start:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

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The GOP in the Senate is going to look ridiculous trying to hold the floor on this while Trump is bombing the ME into oblivion and talking about whether or not he’ll “take Cuba” and the economy collapses. No one is interested in Trump’s obsession with losing interest 2020 except a small segment of MAGA diehards.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

If her husband doesn’t remember, he still gets to vote. Weird double standard?

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

+1

Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

One of my coworkers used to work for SSA and literally her whole job was helping people who couldn't find documents collect social security. The processes would take years. The SSA employs hundreds attorneys to handle precisely this.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

Come on, just admit that this bill is designed to keep people from voting that the administration thinks are undesirable. It’s plain and simple voter suppression. If you are going to be in American at least have the base decency to be up front about it.

The SAVE Act:

1. Prevents millions of American citizens from voting by requiring birth certificate or passport to vote
2. Decimates vote-by-mail
3. Forces Americans to register to vote in person
4. Let’s Trump purge whomever he wants from the voter rolls

This whole this is designed to keep the oligarchs in charge and to keep the pedophiles from seeing justice.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

It’s harder for some than others, and no effort us being made to hide it. Are you aware Hegseth has posted remarks against women bring allowed to vote? What impact do you think those public postings have on the idea that the administration us trying to disenfranchise women?

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

One of my coworkers used to work for SSA and literally her whole job was helping people who couldn't find documents collect social security. The processes would take years. The SSA employs hundreds attorneys to handle precisely this.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

You are very likely talking about lawyers helping people secure documentation to collect disability. That is a VERY big difference than proving identity.

And, many years ago, I worked at a Social Security payment center where documentation was routed after it was submitted for approval--long before computers. I was a lowly clerk.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

It’s harder for some than others, and no effort us being made to hide it. Are you aware Hegseth has posted remarks against women bring allowed to vote? What impact do you think those public postings have on the idea that the administration us trying to disenfranchise women?

There are counties who still haven't digitized records. Again this is primarily going to impact older people.

Getting rid of vote by mail disenfranchises servicemembers as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, Republicans go ahead and pass the voter suppression act. It will impact way more of you than democrats. More Dems have passports, more Dem have funds to get proper paperwork. We have organizations ready and willing to help. All the MAGA mommas gonna find out GOP wants you to shut up.

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Older women/elderly trend towards the GOP. I wonder how many of them have all their documents? How many of them live in rural areas where they don’t have internet and the nearest vital records office is 2 hours away?

When my FIL died my MIL needed copies of all her marriage certificate and such for Social Security and we dug through everything and couldn't find it. And then she couldn't remember which county or city they had gotten their license in, but we had to pay fees just for the various jurisdictions to look to see if they had it, then to get a copy. Fortunately Social security appeals took some other documentation we had because the whole process took months and months and hundreds of dollars.

States have an office of vital records.

Trust me we tried the state. They referred us back to the county office. It's very state dependent.

Maybe you should have tried this index:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

Surprising that Social Security required her marriage certificate again. I had to use mine to change my name on Social Security. But, I still have it.

We tried everything, we even got a lawyer. We eventually got someone in appeals who took her secondary evidence.

Older people don't have all their documents in order, they can't remember what counties they got married in or were born in and it makes things messy.

That is an erroneous generalization. I've had a lot of experience with older people--they may not remember what they had for lunch, but they remember important life events.
But, would you have someone who cannot remember where she got married voting?

My MIL has since died but when this went down she was just 65. She just couldn't remember if the courthouse she went to 45 years ago was a city courthouse or state courthouse and the location she had gone to didn't exist anymore. She could remember the church they got married in and we had googled extensively. And when we did find it getting the documents off microfiche cost hundreds and took months. The county had moved it's records around.

It was also hard to.talk about this stuff at the time because she was distressed about her husband's death.

My own mom had some trouble getting a copy of her birth certificate in her 20s because she didn't know she was born one city over from where she grew up. The hospital had a pipe burst and the maternity ward was closed. No one had bothered to tell her until they couldn't find it.

Point is that this stuff can take months to fix and cost a lot of money.

Remarkable that both of your parents had such problems knowing information about their lives. Sad. Sad that there were no other family members who might have known.
My parents eloped and I know the town where they married. I guess they talked about their lives more than your family did.

Remarkable that you think this is a convincing point in favor of the legislation. Are you TRYING to foment opposition to it?

Remarkable that you think people cannot secure the documents they need. Go look at the link posted above. There are ways to get them. And, if it is not possible to get them through vital records, then you are going to have problems collecting Social Security. You will have to secure other documentation--and there are ways to do it.

This is not that hard.

It’s harder for some than others, and no effort us being made to hide it. Are you aware Hegseth has posted remarks against women bring allowed to vote? What impact do you think those public postings have on the idea that the administration us trying to disenfranchise women?

There are counties who still haven't digitized records. Again this is primarily going to impact older people.

Getting rid of vote by mail disenfranchises servicemembers as well.

When a sitting member of the cabinet starts amplifying videos against service members and the elderly voting, I will believe that is who is being targeted. Trump’s cabinet says they don’t want women to vote: why shouldn’t i believe them?