King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anybody else want to put chances of each ES going to the new HS

Floris : 100% (Literally in Floris district lines)
Oak Hill : 95% (Very Small chance staying Chantilly with overcrowding there)
McNair : 90% (Small chance of staying Westfield or going to Herndon)
Coates : 85% (Small chance of staying Westfield or going to Herndon)
Crossfield : (75%)
Fox Mill : (65%)

Honestly both Crossfield and Fox Mill could go to South Lakes instead of the new HS and petty equidistant from those two options. However, it is easier to backfill Oakton with growth in Tysons. Hence higher chance of Crossfield being moved. Also Meren represents all of Fox Mill but only a fraction of Crossfield hence, the only option she has to protect South Lakes it to retain Fox Mill.

Floris: 100% (no brianer)
Coates: 100% (no brainer)
McNair: 90% (very likely)
FMES: 70% (the question is Meren)
Crossfield: 33% (Honestly, Oakton will be still better than the new HS)
Oak Hill: 50% (OHS’s probem is the middle school. It is very close to Franklin and should stay at Franklin and I don’t know if they create a new split feeder)

I am not sure I follow Oak Hill at 50%. Floris and Oak Hill are the two closest schools to KAA. Add in that they are trying to mange Chantilly’s capacity. I think it’s more like 90% Oak Hill gets moved to KAA. That will allow them to keep all the other neighborhoods being proposed to switch out of Chantilly by Thru at Chantilly.

They do have a problem at the middle school level, but they could fix that a few ways depending on who else ends up at KAA.

[Anonymous]

I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

+1000
I’ve been thinking exactly the same thing. Very entertaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

But was Crossfield slated for redistricting to SLHS before FCPS bid on KAA? If they weren’t, I don’t see any reason why they would be moved to SLHS after buying KAA. The only reason to move them now would be to fill KAA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

But was Crossfield slated for redistricting to SLHS before FCPS bid on KAA? If they weren’t, I don’t see any reason why they would be moved to SLHS after buying KAA. The only reason to move them now would be to fill KAA.

No they were not, and in fact, THRU proposed that the small portion of Crossfield that does go to SLHS be moved back to Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Crossfield mom here - we'd prefer SLHS to Oakton if it was an AP school. We're not interested in the IB program.

[Anonymous]

Periodic reminder that the school board could be less extreme and not pit neighborhoods against neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

But was Crossfield slated for redistricting to SLHS before FCPS bid on KAA? If they weren’t, I don’t see any reason why they would be moved to SLHS after buying KAA. The only reason to move them now would be to fill KAA.

The argument is already being played out in this thread. KAA is an obvious Carson feeder school, but it’s also an obvious feeder for Oak Hill, which goes to Franklin. That means Fox Mill and Crossfield probably wouldn’t both fit at KAA.

One of the talking points when the school board approved the purchase was getting the Sully district out of Oakton, so their vision seems to be to move Crossfield somewhere. I do think Crossfield is more likely to go to KAA than Fox Mill, but there’s no way they’re fitting all of Carson’s feeders + Oak Hill into this new school, and it’s unlikely they wouldn’t touch Chantilly’a borders at all in this exercise, when that’s the primary school that needs capacity relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

Since Fox Mill is already at South Lakes and is closer to South Lakes than Crossfield population, I agree with you.

I've always thought Westfield was a bad fit for this area because of the isolation from the rest of Westfield. It is essentially a large island and 28 is a nightmare.

But was Crossfield slated for redistricting to SLHS before FCPS bid on KAA? If they weren’t, I don’t see any reason why they would be moved to SLHS after buying KAA. The only reason to move them now would be to fill KAA.

The argument is already being played out in this thread. KAA is an obvious Carson feeder school, but it’s also an obvious feeder for Oak Hill, which goes to Franklin. That means Fox Mill and Crossfield probably wouldn’t both fit at KAA.

One of the talking points when the school board approved the purchase was getting the Sully district out of Oakton, so their vision seems to be to move Crossfield somewhere. I do think Crossfield is more likely to go to KAA than Fox Mill, but there’s no way they’re fitting all of Carson’s feeders + Oak Hill into this new school, and it’s unlikely they wouldn’t touch Chantilly’a borders at all in this exercise, when that’s the primary school that needs capacity relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must say, I'm wondering if some of the most vicious pro-rezoning people (only where other people's kids are concerned, of course) are now finding themselves in an unsavory position - either potential rezoning to a less desirable school or not being zoned to the new and more desirable one.

It's fun to pop my popcorn and watch karma come back around.

Is the new HS really “less desirable?” It’s a nice, brand new building filled with the kids who are already at Carson (most likely). And doesn’t come with a long commute to Oakton if you’re in that situation.

I think the new HS in this scenario is the new and desirable one and the less desirable school is potentially shifting Westfield —> Herndon or Chantilly —> Westfield or Oakton —> SLHS. Crossfield, especially, can’t argue they need a shorter/safer commute that KAA provides, but then reject SLHS, which would offer similar relief. Because of KAAs capacity limitations, this is going to be a ripple effect where neighborhoods might end up at a closer school, but not the brand new shiny new school n

But was Crossfield slated for redistricting to SLHS before FCPS bid on KAA? If they weren’t, I don’t see any reason why they would be moved to SLHS after buying KAA. The only reason to move them now would be to fill KAA.

The argument is already being played out in this thread. KAA is an obvious Carson feeder school, but it’s also an obvious feeder for Oak Hill, which goes to Franklin. That means Fox Mill and Crossfield probably wouldn’t both fit at KAA.

One of the talking points when the school board approved the purchase was getting the Sully district out of Oakton, so their vision seems to be to move Crossfield somewhere. I do think Crossfield is more likely to go to KAA than Fox Mill, but there’s no way they’re fitting all of Carson’s feeders + Oak Hill into this new school, and it’s unlikely they wouldn’t touch Chantilly’a borders at all in this exercise, when that’s the primary school that needs capacity relief.

Agree. Fox Mill is already at South Lakes. Fox Mill is closer to South Lakes than the population of Crossfield (with one small exception.) I'm guessing that the Crossfield people are split on whether to stay at Oakton or go to KAA.

Oak Hill families generally love Chantilly, but would likely be happy with KAA. THRU has proposed moving some of them to Oakton which, I think, most are strongly against.

I've always thought Westfield was a terrible fit for this area. It is essentially a large island and 28 is awful. So, I suspect it will be Coates, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill and Crossfield.
This eliminates commute to Westfield and Oakton. It also relieves overcrowding at Chantilly.

I expect there could be some adjustments here and there.

[Anonymous]

This would be so much easier if the School Board would eliminate IB at South Lakes. A lot of parents really don't like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This would be so much easier if the School Board would eliminate IB at South Lakes. A lot of parents really don't like it.

For some reason, the SB members looooove IB and are always gassing it up. It hits a lot of educational buzzwords that certain advocacy groups love. “Lifelong learners” and “global citizens.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would be so much easier if the School Board would eliminate IB at South Lakes. A lot of parents really don't like it.

For some reason, the SB members looooove IB and are always gassing it up. It hits a lot of educational buzzwords that certain advocacy groups love. “Lifelong learners” and “global citizens.”

If FCPS is required to keep the number of IB high schools the same, they could possibly move IB from SLHS to the future West County HS. Moreover, if KAA’s IB students already live close to the academy, then they could easily continue with the IB Program. Of course, I have no idea how many KAA students live near the academy. And FCPS would have to engage with the feeder school communities on the pros/cons of moving IB out of one high school and into a new one.