New OPM memo on RTO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

Well great…?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

Want to add for my middle school age kids, I hired a college student to nanny all summer. They primarily went to our pool and hung out with friends.

And I had potatoes for dinner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

DP. I'm not sure those exist anymore. I booked extended day camps for my kids last summer every week because I didn't know which days would be in person months ahead of time, and it was really hard to find something. Harder than I would have thought. Almost everything was 8 or 9 until 3 or 4 for full day option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

At least for tweens and teens you can do some carpooling and rely on HS or college students. With younger kids (5-9) camps start at 9:30 and end at 2:45 and kids can’t stay at home by themselves.

[Anonymous]

This obsesssive troll won’t stop.

Charlie, is that you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

DP. I'm not sure those exist anymore. I booked extended day camps for my kids last summer every week because I didn't know which days would be in person months ahead of time, and it was really hard to find something. Harder than I would have thought. Almost everything was 8 or 9 until 3 or 4 for full day option.

If I were starting a summer camp right now, I know who I would cater the hours to

[Anonymous]

It would be a shame if people starting telling the WaPo about Trump political appointees who aren’t following their own RTO policies.

[Anonymous]

Does the EO apply to appointees? They are government employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the EO apply to appointees? They are government employees.

at my agency, appointees are 24/7 so it does not. it does apply to their staff. but im still going to ask them when they visit the divisions how they manage to spend 42.5 hours per week from their duty station so they can lie to my face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

DP. I'm not sure those exist anymore. I booked extended day camps for my kids last summer every week because I didn't know which days would be in person months ahead of time, and it was really hard to find something. Harder than I would have thought. Almost everything was 8 or 9 until 3 or 4 for full day option.

If I were starting a summer camp right now, I know who I would cater the hours to

They can’t hire staff to work those extended hours. Same with daycares etc. other jobs pay better and are way easier than kids, and if the camps raise their rates, eventually it gets as expensive as just hiring a nanny to take your kids to the pool all summer, so no one goes to camp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clarification on OPM website indicates situational telework will be only for weather and emergencies declared by the agency.

So I guess that means ANY time I have a doctor's appointment, or one of my kids does, I'll be taking an entire day of SL? Is that even allowed? I've heard some policies saying you can't take more than a half day. But the last train into DC leaves from my city at 7 AM, and I'm sure not buying a second car just to drive an hour to the end of a metro line after appointments.

Cn you please provide a link? I looked but wasn't able to find this. THank you.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USOPM/bulletins/3ce821e

Any idea what this means?


“ Agency heads and employee supervisors are only required to certify telework for “other compelling reasons” for an employee not working full time at the duty station. No such certification is required for an employee disability or qualifying medical condition outside of their agency’s reasonable accommodation procedures. “

I was wondering the same. Who is writing this crap?

AI

AI is more coherent. This was written by 25 year olds raised on Logan Paul videos.

You got that right. This OPM mf writing makes no sense. Anyone have any ideas or examples of qualifying medical condition? I have high cholesterol and prediabetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clarification on OPM website indicates situational telework will be only for weather and emergencies declared by the agency.

So I guess that means ANY time I have a doctor's appointment, or one of my kids does, I'll be taking an entire day of SL? Is that even allowed? I've heard some policies saying you can't take more than a half day. But the last train into DC leaves from my city at 7 AM, and I'm sure not buying a second car just to drive an hour to the end of a metro line after appointments.

Cn you please provide a link? I looked but wasn't able to find this. THank you.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USOPM/bulletins/3ce821e

Any idea what this means?


“ Agency heads and employee supervisors are only required to certify telework for “other compelling reasons” for an employee not working full time at the duty station. No such certification is required for an employee disability or qualifying medical condition outside of their agency’s reasonable accommodation procedures. “

I was wondering the same. Who is writing this crap?

AI

AI is more coherent. This was written by 25 year olds raised on Logan Paul videos.

You got that right. This OPM mf writing makes no sense. Anyone have any ideas or examples of qualifying medical condition? I have high cholesterol and prediabetic.

From OPM’s SELF-IDENTIFICATION OF DISABILITY form


02- Developmental Disability, for example, autism
13- Speech impairment
spectrum disorder
41- Spinal abnormalities, for example, spina bifida or scoliosis
03- Traumatic Brain Injury
19- Deaf or serious difficulty hearing, benefiting from,
44- Non-paralytic orthopedic impairments, for example, chronic pain, stiffness, weakness in bones or joints, some loss of ability to use part or parts of the body
for example, American Sign Language, CART, hearing aids, a cochlear implant and/or other supports
51- HIV Positive/AIDS
52- Morbid obesity
20- Blind or serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses
59- Nervous system disorder for example, migraine headaches, Parkinson’s disease, or multiple sclerosis
31- Missing extremities (arm, leg, hand and/or foot)
80- Cardiovascular or heart disease
40- Significant mobility impairment, benefiting from the utilization of a wheelchair, scooter, walker, leg brace(s) and/or other supports
81- Depression, anxiety disorder, or other psychiatric disorder
83- Blood diseases, for example, sickle cell anemia,
hemophilia
60- Partial or complete paralysis (any cause)
84- Diabetes
82- Epilepsy or other seizure disorders
85- Orthopedic impairments or osteo-arthritis
90- Intellectual disability
86- Pulmonary or respiratory conditions, for example,
91- Significant Psychiatric Disorder, for example, bipolar
tuberculosis, asthma, emphysema
disorder, schizophrenia, PTSD, or major depression
87- Kidney dysfunction
92- Dwarfism 93- Significant disfigurement, for example, disfigurements caused by burns, wounds, accidents, or congenital disorders
88- Cancer (present or past history)
94- Learning disability or attention deficit/hyperactivity
disorder (ADD/ADHD)
95- Gastrointestinal disorders, for example, Crohn's Disease, irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, celiac disease, dysphexia
96- Autoimmune disorder, for example, lupus, fibromyalgia,
Other Options:
rheumatoid arthritis
97- Liver disease, for example, hepatitis or cirrhosis
01- I do not wish to identify my disability or serious
health condition.
98- History of alcoholism or history of drug addiction (but not currently using illegal drugs)
05- I do not have a disability or serious health condition.
99- Endocrine disorder, for example, thyroid dysfunction
06- I have a disability or serious health condition, but it
is not listed on this form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

At least for tweens and teens you can do some carpooling and rely on HS or college students. With younger kids (5-9) camps start at 9:30 and end at 2:45 and kids can’t stay at home by themselves.

If parents are back to work, then whose driving them or are you basically calling carpooling dumping your kids on a SAHM and not doing your 1/2? Nope. HS students have homework and after school activities? Are you planning to hand over your car keys to a new driver to drive your kids. Thats not smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Summer is going to be really tough for parents with zero telework flexibility. For just one example preteens/teenagers. One cannot so easily just sign them up for 8-6 summer camps for the entire summer anymore. They have activities that some weeks end at 12-4 pm etc. We the past few years got really used to having some scheduling flexibility that could be maximized during the summer months. I am not quite ready to have them be full-on latchkey kids 5 days a week.

My kids did camp all summer when I was working before the pandemic in a government position without telework.

At least for tweens and teens you can do some carpooling and rely on HS or college students. With younger kids (5-9) camps start at 9:30 and end at 2:45 and kids can’t stay at home by themselves.

If parents are back to work, then whose driving them or are you basically calling carpooling dumping your kids on a SAHM and not doing your 1/2? Nope. HS students have homework and after school activities? Are you planning to hand over your car keys to a new driver to drive your kids. Thats not smart.

This response was specifically about the summer when US high school students do not have homework and activities every day. Our neighbor was a HS senior last year and did a great job taking care of my children and driving them around. As for carpool, if your child is a tween or teen then (11-18) they should be fine at home for a few hours by themselves and carpooling can be just that. I wrote most of this out very explicitly above. Your reading comprehension is not great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clarification on OPM website indicates situational telework will be only for weather and emergencies declared by the agency.

So I guess that means ANY time I have a doctor's appointment, or one of my kids does, I'll be taking an entire day of SL? Is that even allowed? I've heard some policies saying you can't take more than a half day. But the last train into DC leaves from my city at 7 AM, and I'm sure not buying a second car just to drive an hour to the end of a metro line after appointments.

Cn you please provide a link? I looked but wasn't able to find this. THank you.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USOPM/bulletins/3ce821e

Any idea what this means?


“ Agency heads and employee supervisors are only required to certify telework for “other compelling reasons” for an employee not working full time at the duty station. No such certification is required for an employee disability or qualifying medical condition outside of their agency’s reasonable accommodation procedures. “

I was wondering the same. Who is writing this crap?

AI

AI is more coherent. This was written by 25 year olds raised on Logan Paul videos.

You got that right. This OPM mf writing makes no sense. Anyone have any ideas or examples of qualifying medical condition? I have high cholesterol and prediabetic.

From OPM’s SELF-IDENTIFICATION OF DISABILITY form


02- Developmental Disability, for example, autism
13- Speech impairment
spectrum disorder
41- Spinal abnormalities, for example, spina bifida or scoliosis
03- Traumatic Brain Injury
19- Deaf or serious difficulty hearing, benefiting from,
44- Non-paralytic orthopedic impairments, for example, chronic pain, stiffness, weakness in bones or joints, some loss of ability to use part or parts of the body
for example, American Sign Language, CART, hearing aids, a cochlear implant and/or other supports
51- HIV Positive/AIDS
52- Morbid obesity
20- Blind or serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses
59- Nervous system disorder for example, migraine headaches, Parkinson’s disease, or multiple sclerosis
31- Missing extremities (arm, leg, hand and/or foot)
80- Cardiovascular or heart disease
40- Significant mobility impairment, benefiting from the utilization of a wheelchair, scooter, walker, leg brace(s) and/or other supports
81- Depression, anxiety disorder, or other psychiatric disorder
83- Blood diseases, for example, sickle cell anemia,
hemophilia
60- Partial or complete paralysis (any cause)
84- Diabetes
82- Epilepsy or other seizure disorders
85- Orthopedic impairments or osteo-arthritis
90- Intellectual disability
86- Pulmonary or respiratory conditions, for example,
91- Significant Psychiatric Disorder, for example, bipolar
tuberculosis, asthma, emphysema
disorder, schizophrenia, PTSD, or major depression
87- Kidney dysfunction
92- Dwarfism 93- Significant disfigurement, for example, disfigurements caused by burns, wounds, accidents, or congenital disorders
88- Cancer (present or past history)
94- Learning disability or attention deficit/hyperactivity
disorder (ADD/ADHD)
95- Gastrointestinal disorders, for example, Crohn's Disease, irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, celiac disease, dysphexia
96- Autoimmune disorder, for example, lupus, fibromyalgia,
Other Options:
rheumatoid arthritis
97- Liver disease, for example, hepatitis or cirrhosis
01- I do not wish to identify my disability or serious
health condition.
98- History of alcoholism or history of drug addiction (but not currently using illegal drugs)
05- I do not have a disability or serious health condition.
99- Endocrine disorder, for example, thyroid dysfunction
06- I have a disability or serious health condition, but it
is not listed on this form.

Thank you. Now from reading the first Jan 22 OPM memo, it requires full time telework unless approved by agency head and supervisor. Then this updated guidance states the certification is only needed for “other compelling need”. So this means I have a disability or qualifying medical condition and do not need approval to telework? I can continue to telework? Hurray. OPM such idiots…

The medical condition list is very generous and I will pursue this coa.