The Golden Bachelor

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

[Anonymous]

That young poster does not realize that problems of mental illness can be fatal.

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Anonymous wrote:That young poster does not realize that problems of mental illness can be fatal.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

The fact that people of the PPs generation think of appearing on a reality dating show as a life pinnacle is so sad. As a parent, I cannot imagine remaining on a silly reality tv dating show while my daughter was struggling with PPD. I’m sorry that you don’t have a parent that would show up for you in that way, but that is not the norm.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

The fact that people of the PPs generation think of appearing on a reality dating show as a life pinnacle is so sad. As a parent, I cannot imagine remaining on a silly reality tv dating show while my daughter was struggling with PPD. I’m sorry that you don’t have a parent that would show up for you in that way, but that is not the norm.

But it's objectively a life peak? I mean, maybe it's because you are so much older, but appearing on a reality show like this can guarantee someone millions of followers and a new career as an influencer. Especially for someone of Joan's age, that's absolutely huge. There are many of us who arent close to our parents, or dont have parents, or are living far away from their parents and cant have them fly to them in a couple days. I mean... life is hard. Thats why it seems a bit strange to me. I do hope Joan is able to still make some kind of career off this since it's been largely taken from her.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

I am sorry you and your mom don’t talk. Perhaps if you did, you might be surprised to learn how much she cares about your well being. Some parents aren’t very good at communicating but most do care a lot.

I really could not understand mothers who sacrificed attending their child’s wedding to be on a dating show especially where they only had a single digit percent chance of winning. If my children had serious mental health issues that only came to the surface during the filming of the show, I would have left to support them also. Honestly, I ann pretty sure that all my family and friends would have done so also. However old your children are, they are still your children and there are times when they need extra support.

The show was fun and it was nice to see older people seeing themselves as desirable and worthy of finding love -/ but it is just a reality dating show. The needs of family would always take priority for many of us.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

I am sorry you and your mom don’t talk. Perhaps if you did, you might be surprised to learn how much she cares about your well being. Some parents aren’t very good at communicating but most do care a lot.

I really could not understand mothers who sacrificed attending their child’s wedding to be on a dating show especially where they only had a single digit percent chance of winning. If my children had serious mental health issues that only came to the surface during the filming of the show, I would have left to support them also. Honestly, I ann pretty sure that all my family and friends would have done so also. However old your children are, they are still your children and there are times when they need extra support.

The show was fun and it was nice to see older people seeing themselves as desirable and worthy of finding love -/ but it is just a reality dating show. The needs of family would always take priority for many of us.

I mean, to clarify, I bet I could call my mom and beg her to come to me to help me with some issue. But I wouldnt even want to, unless it was life or death. Especially not if she was experiencing a beautiful new career opportunity that had the potential to change her entire life. Of course if it was literally a matter of life or death I would totally understand why Joan had to leave the show. However, the description of what was happening was very nebulous and strange and didnt really seem to make a whole lot of sense. It was very "beating around the bush" and elusions and not really very factual. Hard to know what even happened or how serious it was or wasnt. Especially considering Joan had considered going back to the show initially and then had to backtrack again, indicating she seemed to think it was handled. Sometimes kids can sabotage parents (and vice versa) and I certainly hope it wasnt the case here.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

I am sorry you and your mom don’t talk. Perhaps if you did, you might be surprised to learn how much she cares about your well being. Some parents aren’t very good at communicating but most do care a lot.

I really could not understand mothers who sacrificed attending their child’s wedding to be on a dating show especially where they only had a single digit percent chance of winning. If my children had serious mental health issues that only came to the surface during the filming of the show, I would have left to support them also. Honestly, I ann pretty sure that all my family and friends would have done so also. However old your children are, they are still your children and there are times when they need extra support.

The show was fun and it was nice to see older people seeing themselves as desirable and worthy of finding love -/ but it is just a reality dating show. The needs of family would always take priority for many of us.

I mean, to clarify, I bet I could call my mom and beg her to come to me to help me with some issue. But I wouldnt even want to, unless it was life or death. Especially not if she was experiencing a beautiful new career opportunity that had the potential to change her entire life. Of course if it was literally a matter of life or death I would totally understand why Joan had to leave the show. However, the description of what was happening was very nebulous and strange and didnt really seem to make a whole lot of sense. It was very "beating around the bush" and elusions and not really very factual. Hard to know what even happened or how serious it was or wasnt. Especially considering Joan had considered going back to the show initially and then had to backtrack again, indicating she seemed to think it was handled. Sometimes kids can sabotage parents (and vice versa) and I certainly hope it wasnt the case here.

You are a very thoughtful daughter and your mom is lucky.

Yes post oartum depression can definitely be a matter of life and death.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

Just pointing out that Joan has never said her daughter asked her to quit the show. Joan said "I could hear in her voice how much she was struggling " (something like that). So it seems that Joan made the choice to leave on her own. And she wasn't ready to get engaged anyway. She said as much when she left and said Gerry opened her up to dating. Her husband died not too long ago and she hasn't dated much. She made the choice to leave.

[Anonymous]

I noticed something about Leslie's and Theresa's GB social media posts. Leslie's show all the kissy-kissy(!) and Theresa's don't. Leslie being passive-aggressive because she loses? Another misdirect guided by the producers?

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I don't think Joan ever had any interest in Gerry. She is perfectly nice, but way too sophisticated for him, and I say that as someone who likes him. His simple Midwestern life and past managing a gym and in fast food doesn't compare to the very wealthy life she is exposed to and clearly a part of here to n the DC area and private school scene. She has figured out a way to finagle getting out of GB without seeming like a bad guy or a heartbroken reject, and still getting a lot of talk and followers.

I like her, but let's all agree she has been playing chess, not checkers.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

Just pointing out that Joan has never said her daughter asked her to quit the show. Joan said "I could hear in her voice how much she was struggling " (something like that). So it seems that Joan made the choice to leave on her own. And she wasn't ready to get engaged anyway. She said as much when she left and said Gerry opened her up to dating. Her husband died not too long ago and she hasn't dated much. She made the choice to leave.

As a mom I certainly would not need my child to ask me to leave a show to do so. I know my child by more than what they say or don’t say. If I felt it best to leave I would leave—irrespective of this GB discussion.

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Theresa probably wins but that woman is hideous to me and seems emptyheaded. But if that's what he wants have at it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the GB ends:

Gerry is not engaged and picks neither of the two finalists. Instead, Joan comes back into the picture. As usual, Gerry starts crying and says that when she left, there were, "a lot of open questions" they need to figure out. Turns out they are still dating and "building a relationship".

They already said something wild will happen at the end so this is it.

And this is the only Bachelor that I can remember where Reality Steve did not name the winner. They probably paid him off so he wouldn't.

Apparently Joan wanted to return, and the producers agreed, but then her daughter then had a downturn. https://www.thewrap.com/the-golden-bachelor-joan-vassos-women-tell-all-interview-abc/

That doesn't mean Joan couldn't come back at the very end, though. But if that happens, will we get to see a scene where Gerry and Jesse sit down over coffee or old fashioneds and Jesse says, hey, Joan is still interested, how about it?

I know the daughter was vulnerable, but wow, I would have a hard time not resenting her for this. I mean she seemed to have the best connection with Gerry of anyone. I guess the daughter was struggling with postpartum? So strange.

You sound like a horrible parent. When your child is threatening to kill herself or hurt her child, you put the child/grandchild first and don't look back.

First of all, I'm not a parent. I'm actually a young person, around her daughter's age, and truly it would be unfathomable to me to ruin my mom's opportunity at something like this because I was feeling depressed or whatever. Many people dont even have parents theyre close to and have to find ways to get through these situations on their own. I'm not trying to be judgmental, it just seems very crazy to me. If my mom were on a show like this I would be thrilled and not ever want her to leave to come help ME. That's just how I see it.

DP / I must say your concern for your mom’s happiness is refreshing. 😄

As a mother and sister/ friend to women who have suffered severe post partum depression, I can assure you that I, and probably many mothers, would have also chosen to be there for their daughters. Post partum depression is extremely serious and common.

I'm actually not super close to my mom, as in we dont really talk. But that's the thing- there are plenty of hard life events that happen and you just have to deal with them. As someone who doesnt have the luxury of calling mom up whenever life gets rough, I just think it's crazy that her mom had to leave the reality show for what sounds like a bout of depression. I mean... maybe it's my own experience but sometimes you just have to handle stuff on your own. Mom's opportunity of a lifetime is ruined because her daughter was having a sad few weeks? I just dont get any of it.

The fact that people of the PPs generation think of appearing on a reality dating show as a life pinnacle is so sad. As a parent, I cannot imagine remaining on a silly reality tv dating show while my daughter was struggling with PPD. I’m sorry that you don’t have a parent that would show up for you in that way, but that is not the norm.

But it's objectively a life peak? I mean, maybe it's because you are so much older, but appearing on a reality show like this can guarantee someone millions of followers and a new career as an influencer. Especially for someone of Joan's age, that's absolutely huge. There are many of us who arent close to our parents, or dont have parents, or are living far away from their parents and cant have them fly to them in a couple days. I mean... life is hard. Thats why it seems a bit strange to me. I do hope Joan is able to still make some kind of career off this since it's been largely taken from her.

I can’t imagine a 60 year old woman with an already existing career thinking that having millions of followers and becoming an influencer is more important than their child and grandchild. Maybe it’s because you are so much younger that you don’t understand that women 60+ have not lived their lives in pursuit of followers and influencing. It just not that important to that generation, and honestly it really shouldn’t be to yours, but I understand that it is.