SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did Democrats fight AGAINST civil rights?
Why did Democrats fight to KEEP slavery?

Why are you so ignorant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read this whole thread and still have not seen a single argument for raced based admissions. Just vague statements about I institutional racism. I still don't understand what the color of my skin should affect my life story, what I've had to overcome, or what privilege I've had. Someone actually spell it out please. Again, we are not talking socioeconomic status, only color of skin. Explain to me why Obama's daughters should get preference for the color of their skin vs poor white coal minor's daughter.

I am still waiting. Anyone?

You are not presumable, Bircher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did Democrats fight AGAINST civil rights?
Why did Democrats fight to KEEP slavery?

Because this is the only way we can keep minorities voting for us. As long as we keep POC believing that they are deprived and discriminated, they continue voting Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Democrats fight AGAINST civil rights?
Why did Democrats fight to KEEP slavery?

Because this is the only way we can keep minorities voting for us. As long as we keep POC believing that they are deprived and discriminated, they continue voting Democrat.

This is a stupid take. As a minority and conservative, I rarely vote for Republicans because they either have no damn policies or their policies are hell bent on sending the country into the sewer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read this whole thread and still have not seen a single argument for raced based admissions. Just vague statements about I institutional racism. I still don't understand what the color of my skin should affect my life story, what I've had to overcome, or what privilege I've had. Someone actually spell it out please. Again, we are not talking socioeconomic status, only color of skin. Explain to me why Obama's daughters should get preference for the color of their skin vs poor white coal minor's daughter.

what you fail to see is that affirmative action and diversity considerations ALSO help the "poor white coal minor's daughter." I was an admission counselor. I wasn't in coal region. but farming is similar. the poor white kids from the farming communities that were border line admits got preference points coming from "low income community" in our admission model. We admitted far more poor white folks from rural USA than inner city urban kids. Diversity considerations go beyond just skin. These decisions erode all considerations and screw not just the incur city dark people that y'all hate, but your friendly, but poor farmer or coal miner kid.

Glad to hear that Admission Officers consider the SES status of candidates as part of their decision. Since the ruling has nothing to do with that, I imagine it will continue to be, which is a good thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

+100000


A truly absurd loophole.

How about the people that are like 1/16 or 1/32 black or hispanic claiming these preferences.

Data of this happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

+100000


A truly absurd loophole.

How about the people that are like 1/16 or 1/32 black or hispanic claiming these preferences.

Data of this happening?

DP here. I don't think we need data. Of course, this is happening. Hello!? Why wouldn't you claim that knowing that it would give you an advantage? I have a Hispanic last name, and you better believe I'm claiming Hispanic (though I'm not). It's not like anyone is checking the validity of these claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Colleges are like that now BECAUSE of affirmative action for women over the past 40 years.

No, colleges are like that now because grade, primary, and middle schools have been accommodating teaching styles for girls for decades. Schools teach that boys and men are toxic, and nearly all teachers below 9th grade are all female.

Boys are also pumped full of drugs starting in grade school to try to control their behavior that is just normal for young boys with lots of energy. Folds more boys than girls are pumped with drugs. It affects your cognition and can make you feel lethargic. Let's see how well girls would do learning from all men only from K-8, in an environment designed to teach how boys learn only, where they're taught females are toxic, and also when teachers and school systems demand girls be put on drugs chronically for years because they claim they have behavioral issues.

Classrooms and sitting in seats for hours to listen to a female teacher prattle on about lessons is entirely a female way to learn .

As the mother of a 16 year old boy, I do not understand WTF you are talking about boys are not pumped full of drugs. There are also plenty of boys who do quite well in school. Schools largely teach the same way as when I was a kid in the 80s. Our society is suspicious of men who work with young children. Additionally teacher pay is low and people don’t want to go into the profession. But there are plenty of boys who are doing well in school. I will say there are too many parents of boys who really emphasize sports. Too many men use sports as the topic to bond with their sons instead of more intellectual activities. My son plays sports but school is more important.

Do you even have kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Colleges are like that now BECAUSE of affirmative action for women over the past 40 years.

No, colleges are like that now because grade, primary, and middle schools have been accommodating teaching styles for girls for decades. Schools teach that boys and men are toxic, and nearly all teachers below 9th grade are all female.

Boys are also pumped full of drugs starting in grade school to try to control their behavior that is just normal for young boys with lots of energy. Folds more boys than girls are pumped with drugs. It affects your cognition and can make you feel lethargic. Let's see how well girls would do learning from all men only from K-8, in an environment designed to teach how boys learn only, where they're taught females are toxic, and also when teachers and school systems demand girls be put on drugs chronically for years because they claim they have behavioral issues.

Classrooms and sitting in seats for hours to listen to a female teacher prattle on about lessons is entirely a female way to learn .

As the mother of a 16 year old boy, I do not understand WTF you are talking about boys are not pumped full of drugs. There are also plenty of boys who do quite well in school. Schools largely teach the same way as when I was a kid in the 80s. Our society is suspicious of men who work with young children. Additionally teacher pay is low and people don’t want to go into the profession. But there are plenty of boys who are doing well in school. I will say there are too many parents of boys who really emphasize sports. Too many men use sports as the topic to bond with their sons instead of more intellectual activities. My son plays sports but school is more important.

Do you even have kids?

Nearly 20% of all boysand males are diagnosed with ADHD by the time they are in high school and have been pumped full of drugs starting since grade school. You live with your head in the sand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/health/more-diagnoses-of-hyperactivity-causing-concern.html

Of course there are plenty of boys who do well in school. But that doesn't explain why there is now a huge gender gap in college with too many females on campus now compared to males. Clearly it means the education system in the country is gigantically failing boys and men, and it is because over the last 30-40 years they've swung too far to the other way and teach only to the way girls learn. It requires boys to sit there for hours in a seat to listen to all female figures teach from K-8 at the board. How can female teachers possibly teach young boys according to the way boys learn without bias and subconsciously catering to girls? Then when boys cannot stand sitting still for hours, they're considered problematic and teacher and schools demand them to be drugged in order to sedate them. Then we wonder why years later there is now huge gender gap in colleges when 20% of our boys are being pumped with drugs just for being boys and starting when they're in grade school. Boys are visual and spatial learners. Rather than sit there in a classroom to listen to a female teacher all of the time, they should be doing exercises like given a pile of junk and tools, split into teams, and told to do something like 'build me the strongest bridge you can out of the junk' without any instructions. Then you test them to see how they failed and why they failed. The discuss the basics of something like the physics of statics. Sitting there for hours listening to rote and dry oratory dictation is just not the way the male brain is wired to learn. Our solution for the last 40 years has been to drug boys instead of fixing our teaching lessons to cater to boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

+100000


A truly absurd loophole.

How about the people that are like 1/16 or 1/32 black or hispanic claiming these preferences.

Data of this happening?

DP here. I don't think we need data. Of course, this is happening. Hello!? Why wouldn't you claim that knowing that it would give you an advantage? I have a Hispanic last name, and you better believe I'm claiming Hispanic (though I'm not). It's not like anyone is checking the validity of these claims.

Under some colleges' definition you can claim to be Hispanic if you simply were born in one of the latin countries or Puerto Rico. That is right. White mom travelling on vacation and delivering a baby there, the child was able to claim that he was "born" there and therefore he is Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more fake white “Latinos” whose European ancestors moved to South America getting admissions preferences over other similarly white students.

+100000


A truly absurd loophole.

How about the people that are like 1/16 or 1/32 black or hispanic claiming these preferences.

Data of this happening?

DP here. I don't think we need data. Of course, this is happening. Hello!? Why wouldn't you claim that knowing that it would give you an advantage? I have a Hispanic last name, and you better believe I'm claiming Hispanic (though I'm not). It's not like anyone is checking the validity of these claims.

Under some colleges' definition you can claim to be Hispanic if you simply were born in one of the latin countries or Puerto Rico. That is right. White mom travelling on vacation and delivering a baby there, the child was able to claim that he was "born" there and therefore he is Hispanic.

Just goes to show what a farce the “Hispanic/Latino” designation is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Colleges are like that now BECAUSE of affirmative action for women over the past 40 years.

No, colleges are like that now because grade, primary, and middle schools have been accommodating teaching styles for girls for decades. Schools teach that boys and men are toxic, and nearly all teachers below 9th grade are all female.

Boys are also pumped full of drugs starting in grade school to try to control their behavior that is just normal for young boys with lots of energy. Folds more boys than girls are pumped with drugs. It affects your cognition and can make you feel lethargic. Let's see how well girls would do learning from all men only from K-8, in an environment designed to teach how boys learn only, where they're taught females are toxic, and also when teachers and school systems demand girls be put on drugs chronically for years because they claim they have behavioral issues.

Classrooms and sitting in seats for hours to listen to a female teacher prattle on about lessons is entirely a female way to learn .

As the mother of a 16 year old boy, I do not understand WTF you are talking about boys are not pumped full of drugs. There are also plenty of boys who do quite well in school. Schools largely teach the same way as when I was a kid in the 80s. Our society is suspicious of men who work with young children. Additionally teacher pay is low and people don’t want to go into the profession. But there are plenty of boys who are doing well in school. I will say there are too many parents of boys who really emphasize sports. Too many men use sports as the topic to bond with their sons instead of more intellectual activities. My son plays sports but school is more important.

Do you even have kids?

Nearly 20% of all boysand males are diagnosed with ADHD by the time they are in high school and have been pumped full of drugs starting since grade school. You live with your head in the sand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/health/more-diagnoses-of-hyperactivity-causing-concern.html

Of course there are plenty of boys who do well in school. But that doesn't explain why there is now a huge gender gap in college with too many females on campus now compared to males. Clearly it means the education system in the country is gigantically failing boys and men, and it is because over the last 30-40 years they've swung too far to the other way and teach only to the way girls learn. It requires boys to sit there for hours in a seat to listen to all female figures teach from K-8 at the board. How can female teachers possibly teach young boys according to the way boys learn without bias and subconsciously catering to girls? Then when boys cannot stand sitting still for hours, they're considered problematic and teacher and schools demand them to be drugged in order to sedate them. Then we wonder why years later there is now huge gender gap in colleges when 20% of our boys are being pumped with drugs just for being boys and starting when they're in grade school. Boys are visual and spatial learners. Rather than sit there in a classroom to listen to a female teacher all of the time, they should be doing exercises like given a pile of junk and tools, split into teams, and told to do something like 'build me the strongest bridge you can out of the junk' without any instructions. Then you test them to see how they failed and why they failed. The discuss the basics of something like the physics of statics. Sitting there for hours listening to rote and dry oratory dictation is just not the way the male brain is wired to learn. Our solution for the last 40 years has been to drug boys instead of fixing our teaching lessons to cater to boys.

This is c**p. Years ago, boys (and girls) were expected to sit quietly in class listening to a teacher. This is how kids have been taught for hundreds of years.

You might as well say that the education system in this country is gigantically failing white people because Asians perform better in schools. Girls perform better because they work harder than boys (I have a teen boy). They find it easier to focus and don't spend 5 hours a day in their bedrooms playing video games. Asians do better at school because they work harder. My boy finds school boring, but he knows that if he doesn't perform well, he won't end up with a satisfying career. He does well because I push him to do well. Other parents should stop making excuses for their underperforming kids.

[Anonymous]

A friendly reminder that Potus said this as a new senator...

[Anonymous]

Good article on how defenders of Affirmative Action try to talk about Asian Americans as little as possible. Doesn't show much love for Edward Blum, but also blames Harvard for being such an easy mark.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-the-champions-of-affirmative-action-had-to-leave-asian-americans-behind

Asian Americans, the group whom the suit was supposedly about, have been oddly absent from the conversations that have followed the ruling. The repetitiveness of the affirmative-action debate has come about, in large part, because both the courts and the media have mostly ignored the Asian American plaintiffs and chosen, instead, to relitigate the same arguments about merit, white supremacy, and privilege. During the five years I spent covering this case, the commentators defending affirmative action almost never disproved the central claim that discrimination was taking place against Asian Americans, even as they dismissed the plaintiffs as pawns who had been duped by a conservative legal activist. They almost always redirected the conversation to something else—often legacy admissions.

Feels like a meta narrative on this whole thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A friendly reminder that Potus said this as a new senator...

Looks like a completely different man, not even related.