ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team avoids 8th grade teams with Freshman that play HS soccer during the season. Which makes things much easier for clubs.

Being corectly aligned by playing on the correct grade in school team makes recruiting much easier for players. Which boosts college commitment numbers for clubs and players.

Some players have crap HS soccer programs and prefer to keep playing with club whenever possible, so they're good on playing with 8th graders, if they can under the rules.

Also, if correct alignment is essential for college recruitment, might as well as go to complete GY to appease all those coaches.

U18/U19 was created so holdbacks could play on their grade in school team Senior year.

Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point.

And there it is. You want to play 36 month older players against younger player so they can get recruited. Nobody is stopping holdbacks from playing on teams with players their age. Totally possible to get recruited

How you accuse this person of being for a 36 month window is insane, "Not sure your point since recruiting is largely done at that point."

Sure I'll explain 36 month older. No problem.

Schools generally allow students to be held back twice. If the school cutoff was Aug 1st the means the oldest were born Aug 1st and youngest in that grade were born on July 31st.

Hold back an Aug 1st birthday twice in school and they are now 36 months older than the youngest possible July 31st birthday in that grade.

Learn math it can help you.

But you claim RaE is a mYth!

I do think its a myth but 3 yeara older than other players is ridiculious

No, I've seen an amazing chart shared several times on this board. iT definitely proves that our much-touted P2P syatem has made solved for RAE. No reason to worry! THat poster made me see the light.

I dont think anyone can "make you see the light".

You arent very smart, you are incredibly stubborn, and you're arrogant. On top of all that you have an agenda to play older players against younger ones. Which you try to hide but people see through you almost immediately.

Even when you know that you're wrong you'll argue just to argue.

Nobody is actually saying they want biobanding, playing down. It's your trying to force younger to play with older kids that just didn't happen because clubs don't follow the grades of their players and you are lashing out at everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Most accurate/easiest to understand

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

This is not the easiest way to understand. I'll help you make it easier, although I don't agree with using anything but DOB. instead of saying 8/1 plus younger, just say younger than 7/31. You're welcome.

You mean like this? Its saying less than or equal to 8/1. Which is the same thing as younger than 7/31. Using 8/1is more clear because its what US Soccer defined as its max age per level.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

No, like this. One operation is easier than 2.

< 7/31/yyyy

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Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

lol, I'm not the poster you think. I have no idea what's happening with showcases. I was just trying to open my argument by saying I'm not trying to push for 36 months.

It would be good if you can respond to my initial post without the hatred for age guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most accurate/easiest to understand

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

This is not the easiest way to understand. I'll help you make it easier, although I don't agree with using anything but DOB. instead of saying 8/1 plus younger, just say younger than 7/31. You're welcome.

You mean like this? Its saying less than or equal to 8/1. Which is the same thing as younger than 7/31. Using 8/1is more clear because its what US Soccer defined as its max age per level.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

No, like this. One operation is easier than 2.

< 7/31/yyyy

Well, here are actual rules for non MLSN1.

They don't even collect and verify all kids grades around here. Adding grade doesn't make any sense because it listed on tables from actual clubs around here. It's just one person's hopes and dreams.

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

You mean your conversation with yourself?

Sorry grade exists and when its applied to your 36 month older player playing down nonsese people quickly see why it doesnt make sense.

find a post where somebody wants more than 12 month age group other than you. you've failed this challenge over and over. makes u a hypocrite.

Age guy / mr usys has been trying to start a rumor that leagues will start doing GY showcases for almost a year.

High schools allow students to be held back two times. This means 36 month older players (2 years older ie held back twice) in GY.

I'm confused. But aren't you the one pushing for grade alignment?

SY with August birthdays playing on the team thats their grade in school. Which is all 100% allowed under SY League rules. The oldest any player can be is born on 8/1 per year / level. End result is all players on the field are the same grade in school.

GY is any player a certain grade in school can play on the team. This allows 36 month older 2x held back "Sophmores" as an example.

The big difference is SY with Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team is the most fair for the most players and it works well with p2p club processes.

I'm not pushing for anyone 36 months older to play with younger ones. But why are you pushing August kids to play up with grade but not allowing 36 month older kids to play with kids in their grade. Yes I realize there is a difference between 13 and 36 months, but who are you to decide which duration is appropriate vs too long? You are making a huge deal about grade alignment but you are not 100% consistent in age window.

You've been trying to start a GY showcase rumor for over a year. All based on your misinterpretation of US Soccers announcement that SY will allow more players in the same grade to play on the same teams. You are so determined to play 36 month older players against youger players that you concocted nonsense in your head about leagues allowing players to play down. To reinforce the nonsense you made up in your head you fight against Aug birthdays playing on their correct grade in school team. This would allow all players to be the same grade at games. Which is what college coaches want. Which you dont want because it eliminates the need to play 36 month older players down.

lol, I'm not the poster you think. I have no idea what's happening with showcases. I was just trying to open my argument by saying I'm not trying to push for 36 months.

It would be good if you can respond to my initial post without the hatred for age guy.

What was your initial question?

For the record I dont hate anyone. I do severely dislike age guy because he's not truthful. He wants older players (36 months) to play down against younger players. Even more annoying is he hides behind rae using it when it suits his discussion and ignoring when it doesnt. Im consistant. I think rae is crap. Talent will always find a way. But you need to be reasonable, players 3 years older than everyone else isnt fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most accurate/easiest to understand

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

This is not the easiest way to understand. I'll help you make it easier, although I don't agree with using anything but DOB. instead of saying 8/1 plus younger, just say younger than 7/31. You're welcome.

You mean like this? Its saying less than or equal to 8/1. Which is the same thing as younger than 7/31. Using 8/1is more clear because its what US Soccer defined as its max age per level.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

No, like this. One operation is easier than 2.

< 7/31/yyyy

Well, here are actual rules for non MLSN1.

They don't even collect and verify all kids grades around here. Adding grade doesn't make any sense because it listed on tables from actual clubs around here. It's just one person's hopes and dreams.

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Same thing....

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Just to clarify NO 36 month age range would be allowed. Only players each year who fall under U18 could play with their correct grade. Because there will not be a U18 age group. Will be U17/19.
So no two year hold backs or anything like that. 23 months would be most allowed and only for what is considered the highest level of competition in youth soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Wont happen. Once college coaches get SY again with Aug birthdays playing with their grade in school teams they'll be happy.

Allowing play downs just creates an arms race for parents who will hold their kids back in school. Which means 16 year old Freshman and 20 year old Seniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Just to clarify NO 36 month age range would be allowed. Only players each year who fall under U18 could play with their correct grade. Because there will not be a U18 age group. Will be U17/19.
So no two year hold backs or anything like that. 23 months would be most allowed and only for what is considered the highest level of competition in youth soccer.

So to qualify you need to be a certain age and a certain grade in school?

Who is going to police players grade in school? Is this something they need to show proof of to play down?

Where have I heard that before? Hmm....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Wont happen. Once college coaches get SY again with Aug birthdays playing with their grade in school teams they'll be happy.

Allowing play downs just creates an arms race for parents who will hold their kids back in school. Which means 16 year old Freshman and 20 year old Seniors.

They already have allowed something similar if you look at current trapped player rules for U15/17 ECNL showcases. So it really won’t be as big of a deal as you are making it to be. Also MLSN/ECNL both realize on the boys side they have a big problem with D1 colleges taking the older euro players over there 18 year old seniors.

Don’t be surprised if US Soccer can take over college soccer if they strongly reduce the number of euro players and players from outside the US. They Will also have an age restriction I believe as well which will prevent the hold back issue as well. Have to graduate by 23.

Lots will change over the next few years I hope you’re ready for it.

Also my oldest is playing college soccer currently and her sister is a junior and on her way out, then youth soccer is all over for me as my youngest plays wrestling and baseball.

I have no dog in this fight. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Well, here are actual rules for non MLSN1.

They don't even collect and verify all kids grades around here. Adding grade doesn't make any sense because it listed on tables from actual clubs around here. It's just one person's hopes and dreams.

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Just to clarify NO 36 month age range would be allowed. Only players each year who fall under U18 could play with their correct grade. Because there will not be a U18 age group. Will be U17/19.
So no two year hold backs or anything like that. 23 months would be most allowed and only for what is considered the highest level of competition in youth soccer.

So to qualify you need to be a certain age and a certain grade in school?

Who is going to police players grade in school? Is this something they need to show proof of to play down?

Where have I heard that before? Hmm....

I can only speak for us club side that each director would need to notify the area rep and let them know for showcase they are bringing players who are U18 age eligible but will be attending the U17 showcase. Could there be a numbers restriction per team maybe?? Like less than 3 as is typical for trapped player type rules currently.

Will have to wait and see what they decide… I just know that they are considering this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, here are actual rules for non MLSN1.

They don't even collect and verify all kids grades around here. Adding grade doesn't make any sense because it listed on tables from actual clubs around here. It's just one person's hopes and dreams.

Fall 2026 - Spring 2027

U9 Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018
U10 Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017
U11 Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016
U12 Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015
U13 Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014
U14 Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013
U15 Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012
U16 Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011
U17 Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010
U18 Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009
U19 Aug 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Don’t forget they get the ability to do whatever they want for their showcases as well as where biobanding players will go as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello everyone it’s me, the guy who mention grad year for olders showcase. I like to pop
In every once in a while and say hello.

Many pages have gone by and don’t want/care to read it all but noticed a few people or one? Twisting what I’m saying.

So I’ll say it slower.

My friend ECNL Director girls/boys club as well as another buddy works for usclub helping oversee one of the big SoCal soccer leagues.

Has told me what ECNL/RL, MLSN, GA and even big non league college showcases like surf cup are considering is allowing players who are age eligible for U18 ONLY so that would be for players in 25/26 born between Aug-Dec 2008/ Jan-July 2009.
If you fall into this group and are a junior you would be eligible to attend showcases for U17 if you’re a senior you should play showcase matches with U19.

So yes there is the potential for an age difference of 23 months for U17 just like there will be for U19 as the current chart would be Aug 2007-July 2009. Al’s 23 months.

The rationale is at the highest level of youth competition this should not affect player ability as most players have reached growth spurts and such at this point.

It is strongly being considered to start next year and would just be involved within each league or tournament rule book.

It may get tabled until 27/28 to allow for a year for the dust to settle with new age group changes.

Wont happen. Once college coaches get SY again with Aug birthdays playing with their grade in school teams they'll be happy.

Allowing play downs just creates an arms race for parents who will hold their kids back in school. Which means 16 year old Freshman and 20 year old Seniors.

That's the thing, August players aren't going GY and don't make enough of the misaligned players to make it worth the squeeze.

I won't say the upper age category has having anyone playing down, it's more just one large age range (an age range essentially after puberty) broken in grades or graduation year.