Zohran Mamdani...

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani's base of voters is rich, highly educated and white while he claims to stand for working class people of color. What do you all make of the fact that the people he allegedly represents did not vote for him and do not want him?

(A recent Emerson poll projects him winning 57 per cent of white voters, but only 26 per cent of Black voters and 35 per cent of Hispanic voters. While 57 per cent of college-educated voters support Mamdani, only 23 per cent of those without a college degree do.)

DCUM posters love to portray that Mamdani’s voters are ignorant and naive and don’t know what is good for them. They cannot fathom that his voters want to help their neighbors and raise the standard of living for the working class in NYC even if that means paying more in taxes. All the unions are behind him. He’s going to win in a landslide for mayor.

The ignorant and naive part is because communism doesn’t work not because we don’t think the intentions are good.

Define communism for us, without googling. My guess is, you can't. A democratic socialist is not a communist. Stop throwing around words you do not even understand.

Hint: it involves government run grocery stores.

Spare me the idea that we don’t know what communism is.

You obviously don't if you think it’s defined by how the grocery stores are run.

If you don’t understand the link, then you are the uneducated one. It’s tiresome that when we want to debate the merits of a candidate, you all fall back on definitions. You played this game with DEI too. When we debated whether it’s appropriate for someone to be hired based off their status as an underrepresented minority, the game of “you can’t even DeFInE DeI” began. Knock it off. Tell us why Mamdani’s proposals that have been tried elsewhere and failed will suddenly work in Manhattan.

Because definitions and the way you use words matter. You're so busy being reactionary, you've not even taken the time to actually understand what it is you're screeching about.

Have you read Mamdani's proposals? Why are you so convinced there is nothing new to them, that they are mere rehashings of failed policy? And can you point out what your preferred candidate has proposed that IS different than what has already been tried and has failed?

You need to learn about human nature and character, human behavior, and how people act when certain inducements are provided. Learn the unintended consequences of them.

We don't need to go down this well worn path again because you are a poor student of life and can't think for yourself.

+1 it’s uneducated, naive voters who refuse to learn from history and what has been tried and failed already, who are the problem. Do what you want NY, but don’t come fleeing to the red states when catastrophe happens. We are full!

New York pays your red state's bills, dummy.

Because of where military installations are.

Sounds like you should be happy in NYC. Stay there.

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Anonymous wrote:60 pages and not one criticism of Mamdani besides "brown man scary Karl Marx".

Racist Christian Nationalists are quaking in their boots that Americans are done with their craziness.

People have opposed his proposals including government run grocery stores and his declaration that he would fund his proposals by taxing white neighborhoods which is patently racist.

Affordable food and wealthier people paying larger share of property tax. The horror!

He didn’t say wealthier. He said white. Don’t gloss over his racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Kind of unrelated, does this give more credence to the fact that Bernie would have beaten Trump instead of Hillary?

Yeah, that’s already established. Bernie’s legacy will live on permanently in the Democratic Party. He fathered plenty of kids and introduced them to the term “democratic socialist” or what used to just be called Democrat

One day the two parties will be the Democratic Socialist and the Democratic Centrist

This is how most of the civiliaed world runs.

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Anonymous wrote:Kind of unrelated, does this give more credence to the fact that Bernie would have beaten Trump instead of Hillary?

Yeah, that’s already established. Bernie’s legacy will live on permanently in the Democratic Party. He fathered plenty of kids and introduced them to the term “democratic socialist” or what used to just be called Democrat

One day the two parties will be the Democratic Socialist and the Democratic Centrist

This is us in Canada. Liberals can be center left or center right depending on the right or left, and then we have the NDP, which are socialists.

Welcome to 2025. NDP is gone.

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Anonymous wrote:If November 2024 left any doubt that the Democratic establishment and its donors and shills are wildly unpopular and have no sway, Mamdani has settled the matter. A 33 year old openly anti-Israel political neophyte with unworkable policies is poised to become NYC's next mayor just because he's not the establishment Democrat candidate.

I'm super pumped to see an establishment candidate backed by big money go down hard.

I think we are a bit tired of sex offender candidates bankrolled by 1 percenters.

Funnily, Cuomo was polling very well with women

Because he's a sexy offender.

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Anonymous wrote:How many Jewish NYers are going to flee the city?

Maybe they can move to Florida and turn it blue again.

lol wrong New Yorkers. The radical Zionists are Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani's base of voters is rich, highly educated and white while he claims to stand for working class people of color. What do you all make of the fact that the people he allegedly represents did not vote for him and do not want him?

(A recent Emerson poll projects him winning 57 per cent of white voters, but only 26 per cent of Black voters and 35 per cent of Hispanic voters. While 57 per cent of college-educated voters support Mamdani, only 23 per cent of those without a college degree do.)

DCUM posters love to portray that Mamdani’s voters are ignorant and naive and don’t know what is good for them. They cannot fathom that his voters want to help their neighbors and raise the standard of living for the working class in NYC even if that means paying more in taxes. All the unions are behind him. He’s going to win in a landslide for mayor.

The ignorant and naive part is because communism doesn’t work not because we don’t think the intentions are good.

Define communism for us, without googling. My guess is, you can't. A democratic socialist is not a communist. Stop throwing around words you do not even understand.

Hint: it involves government run grocery stores.

Spare me the idea that we don’t know what communism is.

You obviously don't if you think it’s defined by how the grocery stores are run.

If you don’t understand the link, then you are the uneducated one. It’s tiresome that when we want to debate the merits of a candidate, you all fall back on definitions. You played this game with DEI too. When we debated whether it’s appropriate for someone to be hired based off their status as an underrepresented minority, the game of “you can’t even DeFInE DeI” began. Knock it off. Tell us why Mamdani’s proposals that have been tried elsewhere and failed will suddenly work in Manhattan.

Because definitions and the way you use words matter. You're so busy being reactionary, you've not even taken the time to actually understand what it is you're screeching about.

Have you read Mamdani's proposals? Why are you so convinced there is nothing new to them, that they are mere rehashings of failed policy? And can you point out what your preferred candidate has proposed that IS different than what has already been tried and has failed?

You need to learn about human nature and character, human behavior, and how people act when certain inducements are provided. Learn the unintended consequences of them.

We don't need to go down this well worn path again because you are a poor student of life and can't think for yourself.

I notice you didn't answer my question yet again. You just continue to resort to insults and tired tropes.

Not everyone operates like you. It is not actually human nature to exploit and hurt each other. Research into our history and our behavior in dire emergency has repeatedly borne out that we are collective and cooperative by nature. Given the opportunity, most of us choose to help. It's the scarcity and competition demanded by capitalism that drives most antisocial behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani's base of voters is rich, highly educated and white while he claims to stand for working class people of color. What do you all make of the fact that the people he allegedly represents did not vote for him and do not want him?

(A recent Emerson poll projects him winning 57 per cent of white voters, but only 26 per cent of Black voters and 35 per cent of Hispanic voters. While 57 per cent of college-educated voters support Mamdani, only 23 per cent of those without a college degree do.)

DCUM posters love to portray that Mamdani’s voters are ignorant and naive and don’t know what is good for them. They cannot fathom that his voters want to help their neighbors and raise the standard of living for the working class in NYC even if that means paying more in taxes. All the unions are behind him. He’s going to win in a landslide for mayor.

The ignorant and naive part is because communism doesn’t work not because we don’t think the intentions are good.

Define communism for us, without googling. My guess is, you can't. A democratic socialist is not a communist. Stop throwing around words you do not even understand.

Hint: it involves government run grocery stores.

Spare me the idea that we don’t know what communism is.

You obviously don't if you think it’s defined by how the grocery stores are run.

If you don’t understand the link, then you are the uneducated one. It’s tiresome that when we want to debate the merits of a candidate, you all fall back on definitions. You played this game with DEI too. When we debated whether it’s appropriate for someone to be hired based off their status as an underrepresented minority, the game of “you can’t even DeFInE DeI” began. Knock it off. Tell us why Mamdani’s proposals that have been tried elsewhere and failed will suddenly work in Manhattan.

Because definitions and the way you use words matter. You're so busy being reactionary, you've not even taken the time to actually understand what it is you're screeching about.

Have you read Mamdani's proposals? Why are you so convinced there is nothing new to them, that they are mere rehashings of failed policy? And can you point out what your preferred candidate has proposed that IS different than what has already been tried and has failed?

You need to learn about human nature and character, human behavior, and how people act when certain inducements are provided. Learn the unintended consequences of them.

We don't need to go down this well worn path again because you are a poor student of life and can't think for yourself.

+1 it’s uneducated, naive voters who refuse to learn from history and what has been tried and failed already, who are the problem. Do what you want NY, but don’t come fleeing to the red states when catastrophe happens. We are full!

New York pays your red state's bills, dummy.

No, it doesn't. You think you're running on fumes now. Wait until Wall Street pulls out.

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Anonymous wrote:How many Jewish NYers are going to flee the city?

Maybe they can move to Florida and turn it blue again.

lol wrong New Yorkers. The radical Zionists are Republican.

Nah, they play both sides like puppets. Whoever is willing to suck up more to Israel gets the prize.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a non New Yorker donate to Mamdani's campaign?

I've rarely donate politically and have never donated to a candidate representing another state, but this is one time where I'd happily donate.

Yes

Yes of course.

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The whole “rich white liberals are Mamdani’s base!” storyline isn’t even true.

Look at this graphic on the raw number of voters in the NYC Dem primary and their income:

The data analyst states that for this data set of NYC Dem primary voters, the median 50th percentile individual income is $50K. This is significantly lower than the median individual income for NYC overall at around $70K. In sum, NYC Dem primary voters are poorer than average NY’er.

For Cuomo, Mamdani, and Lander the vast majority of their raw voters came from people in the $20K-$75K median income range. Those are not well-off people in NYC! Even a public school janitor in NYC makes $60K. And it’s really hard to live in NYC on that kind of money.

Let’s look at another graphic, which looks at voters in the data set by their income percentile (remember $50K = 50th percentile):

The story that clearly emerges is as such:
-Cuomo easily won the poorest 5% of the voters
-Cuomo and Mamdani closely split voters in the 10th to 50th income percentile
-Mamdani dominates among voters in the 50th to 95th percentile
-Cuomo easily wins the wealthiest 5% of NYC voters in the Dem primary

Mamdani has a very broad base of support; this just isn’t a “white social trust fund hipster” phenomenon. I know that’s the story in rightwing Twitter and FinTwit, but Mamdani (like Cuomo and Lander) got the vast majority of his voters from people in 10th to 50th percentile of incomes. Those are not well-off people.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole “rich white liberals are Mamdani’s base!” storyline isn’t even true.

Look at this graphic on the raw number of voters in the NYC Dem primary and their income:

The data analyst states that for this data set of NYC Dem primary voters, the median 50th percentile individual income is $50K. This is significantly lower than the median individual income for NYC overall at around $70K. In sum, NYC Dem primary voters are poorer than average NY’er.

For Cuomo, Mamdani, and Lander the vast majority of their raw voters came from people in the $20K-$75K median income range. Those are not well-off people in NYC! Even a public school janitor in NYC makes $60K. And it’s really hard to live in NYC on that kind of money.

Let’s look at another graphic, which looks at voters in the data set by their income percentile (remember $50K = 50th percentile):

The story that clearly emerges is as such:
-Cuomo easily won the poorest 5% of the voters
-Cuomo and Mamdani closely split voters in the 10th to 50th income percentile
-Mamdani dominates among voters in the 50th to 95th percentile
-Cuomo easily wins the wealthiest 5% of NYC voters in the Dem primary

Mamdani has a very broad base of support; this just isn’t a “white social trust fund hipster” phenomenon. I know that’s the story in rightwing Twitter and FinTwit, but Mamdani (like Cuomo and Lander) got the vast majority of his voters from people in 10th to 50th percentile of incomes. Those are not well-off people.

MAGA lies, it’s what they do. Every day fewer and fewer people believe them.

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New Yorker here. As someone above said, I hope Mamdani puts Lander on his staff and of course keep Tisch and the rat czar.

But all of these people hating him only makes me want to support him

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani's base of voters is rich, highly educated and white while he claims to stand for working class people of color. What do you all make of the fact that the people he allegedly represents did not vote for him and do not want him?

(A recent Emerson poll projects him winning 57 per cent of white voters, but only 26 per cent of Black voters and 35 per cent of Hispanic voters. While 57 per cent of college-educated voters support Mamdani, only 23 per cent of those without a college degree do.)

DCUM posters love to portray that Mamdani’s voters are ignorant and naive and don’t know what is good for them. They cannot fathom that his voters want to help their neighbors and raise the standard of living for the working class in NYC even if that means paying more in taxes. All the unions are behind him. He’s going to win in a landslide for mayor.

The ignorant and naive part is because communism doesn’t work not because we don’t think the intentions are good.

Define communism for us, without googling. My guess is, you can't. A democratic socialist is not a communist. Stop throwing around words you do not even understand.

Hint: it involves government run grocery stores.

Spare me the idea that we don’t know what communism is.

You obviously don't if you think it’s defined by how the grocery stores are run.

If you don’t understand the link, then you are the uneducated one. It’s tiresome that when we want to debate the merits of a candidate, you all fall back on definitions. You played this game with DEI too. When we debated whether it’s appropriate for someone to be hired based off their status as an underrepresented minority, the game of “you can’t even DeFInE DeI” began. Knock it off. Tell us why Mamdani’s proposals that have been tried elsewhere and failed will suddenly work in Manhattan.

Because definitions and the way you use words matter. You're so busy being reactionary, you've not even taken the time to actually understand what it is you're screeching about.

Have you read Mamdani's proposals? Why are you so convinced there is nothing new to them, that they are mere rehashings of failed policy? And can you point out what your preferred candidate has proposed that IS different than what has already been tried and has failed?

You need to learn about human nature and character, human behavior, and how people act when certain inducements are provided. Learn the unintended consequences of them.

We don't need to go down this well worn path again because you are a poor student of life and can't think for yourself.

+1 it’s uneducated, naive voters who refuse to learn from history and what has been tried and failed already, who are the problem. Do what you want NY, but don’t come fleeing to the red states when catastrophe happens. We are full!

New York pays your red state's bills, dummy.

Because of where military installations are.

What?

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Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. As someone above said, I hope Mamdani puts Lander on his staff and of course keep Tisch and the rat czar.

But all of these people hating him only makes me want to support him

I am enjoying all the people crashing out at his victory. And it just so happens most of these individuals happen to be terrible people anyway.