Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

Wayside has nothing to complain about.

Wayside sounds really stupid. You are complaining about moving from the #4 school to the #3 school. Sheesh!

We have a problem Houston.

It is not only about the ranking. They are both great schools with strong test scores. But as parents, we all plan the best for our children—whatever we believe that to be. For me, switching from a 37% Asian school to a 43% Asian school isn’t ideal (without any change). And with the change, it would be 45% Asian in Option 2 for Wootton. I can’t imagine the competition and stress that will bring.

We’re actually pretty close to Churchill, and switching to Wootton would double the commute time—which means less sleep.

Private school is not on my agenda, so maybe it’s time to move to VA.

-From poor of the Potomac

We don't live in wootton/Churchill area, so I have no sense what those Asian kids experiences when you talk about competition and stress. I assume they are similar, probably you are talking about math tutoring or sports/musical competition outside of school.

Wayside has the highest % of Asians in Churchill so moving it to Wootton just concentrates most Asians in Wootton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

For those who aren’t familiar with Wayside/Churchill, the sense of community from K-12 among Wayside/Hoover/Churchill is unparalleled. Due to lots of shared programs across all three schools and the proximity. This is true for most of the schools in the cluster, but I’ve heard from plenty that Wayside and Beverly Farms have very close communities.

Wayside isn't special. They shouldn't get special treatment. Get over yourselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

Wayside has nothing to complain about.

Wayside sounds really stupid. You are complaining about moving from the #4 school to the #3 school. Sheesh!

We have a problem Houston.

It is not only about the ranking. They are both great schools with strong test scores. But as parents, we all plan the best for our children—whatever we believe that to be. For me, switching from a 37% Asian school to a 43% Asian school isn’t ideal (without any change). And with the change, it would be 45% Asian in Option 2 for Wootton. I can’t imagine the competition and stress that will bring.

We’re actually pretty close to Churchill, and switching to Wootton would double the commute time—which means less sleep.

Private school is not on my agenda, so maybe it’s time to move to VA.

-From poor of the Potomac

We don't live in wootton/Churchill area, so I have no sense what those Asian kids experiences when you talk about competition and stress. I assume they are similar, probably you are talking about math tutoring or sports/musical competition outside of school.

Wayside has the highest % of Asians in Churchill so moving it to Wootton just concentrates most Asians in Wootton.

Ohh, so now you guys like DEI and demographically informed redistricting decisions when it means not concentrating Asians at Wootton even though you all hated it when it meant going to school with more FARMS kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

For those who aren’t familiar with Wayside/Churchill, the sense of community from K-12 among Wayside/Hoover/Churchill is unparalleled. Due to lots of shared programs across all three schools and the proximity. This is true for most of the schools in the cluster, but I’ve heard from plenty that Wayside and Beverly Farms have very close communities.

Wayside isn't special. They shouldn't get special treatment. Get over yourselves.

Seriously. They live in a bubble and assume that no other communities have attachment to their schools. NEWSFLASH: Almost everyone in MCPS will tell you the same thing about their schools and neighborhoods. The reality is that if Wayside gets redistricted to Wootton, nobody else left in Churchill will care and they will go on with life. The Wayside parents will wipe their tears and realize that their kids are making friends at Wootton and getting the same education they would have gotten at Churchill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wayside petitioners are out in force walking neighborhoods. Go Wayside!!

Wayside has nothing to complain about.

Wayside sounds really stupid. You are complaining about moving from the #4 school to the #3 school. Sheesh!

We have a problem Houston.

It is not only about the ranking. They are both great schools with strong test scores. But as parents, we all plan the best for our children—whatever we believe that to be. For me, switching from a 37% Asian school to a 43% Asian school isn’t ideal (without any change). And with the change, it would be 45% Asian in Option 2 for Wootton. I can’t imagine the competition and stress that will bring.

We’re actually pretty close to Churchill, and switching to Wootton would double the commute time—which means less sleep.

Private school is not on my agenda, so maybe it’s time to move to VA.

-From poor of the Potomac

We don't live in wootton/Churchill area, so I have no sense what those Asian kids experiences when you talk about competition and stress. I assume they are similar, probably you are talking about math tutoring or sports/musical competition outside of school.

Wayside has the highest % of Asians in Churchill so moving it to Wootton just concentrates most Asians in Wootton.

Ohh, so now you guys like DEI and demographically informed redistricting decisions when it means not concentrating Asians at Wootton even though you all hated it when it meant going to school with more FARMS kids.

No, still will prefer 45% Asian school instead of a 45% FARM school. Just a different set of things to worry about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving Wayside to Wootton and not moving Ritchie Park to Wootton? Fallsgrove, Orchard Ridge, Horizon Hill, and Potomac Woods are all walkable to the high school.

Because RPES provides the upper SES to RM, particularly if FG moves out.

If you look at the maps, it shows RPES is NOT a walk zone, but FG is. Yes, I know HH is actually walkable to Wootton (I live here, and I know HH used to be a walkable neighborhood to Wootton) but MCPS hasn't identified HH as such, but they did identify FG as a walk zone to Crown.

Because they didn't draw new walk zones for the existing schools, they just used what their current walk zones are.

Very typical of the board. A neighborhood that literally backs up to the school and they deem it not walkable. Like the PP said, I think all neighborhoods except Park Potomac are walkable to Wootton. I know Fox Hills West is considered walkable to Wootton and that neighborhood is further than Horizon Hill. I know Copenhaver has a bus because parts of that neighborhood and that little area behind are deemed not walkable to Wootton. But again, every RPES neighborhood besides Park Potomac has easy access to walk thru neighborhoods/parks and down Wootton Parkway with a 6ft wide walk/bike path. And there are already so many kids in those neighborhoods that have COSA to Wootton as you can see them all walking home. No waiting on buses or activity buses. Just walk the 10-20min home.

[Anonymous]

Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

They haven't even identified a need for a HS holding school at all. Many schools can be rebuilt on site without moving students to a holding school. It just wasn't deemed feasible for Northwood, so that's why they're at Woodward now.

[Anonymous]

Was reading those petitions, can someone explain to me how they benefit those who live outside Churchill and Wootton clusters? I understand that they don't want to change their boundaries, but keeping their current boundaries, doesn't it mean the other clusters will be more severely impacted in order to provide enough feed for Crown? If Crown becomes another TJ, then nobody's boundary needs to be touched, including theirs. But ONLY keep Churchill and Wootton together, aren't they part of MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

They haven't even identified a need for a HS holding school at all. Many schools can be rebuilt on site without moving students to a holding school. It just wasn't deemed feasible for Northwood, so that's why they're at Woodward now.

Wootton can not be rebuilt on site. They need a holding school. They barely have any land, there is only one entrance to the school on a very busy 1 lane road and they back up to a middle school with shared land. If anything, the new school has to have a smaller footprint (building up) so that they can actually have normal size fields and parking which they don't have compared to all other high schools. QO has more land and may be able to get away with not have a holding school, but the point is the board never thinks or plans ahead and keeps budget costs in mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they moving Wayside to Wootton and not moving Ritchie Park to Wootton? Fallsgrove, Orchard Ridge, Horizon Hill, and Potomac Woods are all walkable to the high school.

Because RPES provides the upper SES to RM, particularly if FG moves out.

If you look at the maps, it shows RPES is NOT a walk zone, but FG is. Yes, I know HH is actually walkable to Wootton (I live here, and I know HH used to be a walkable neighborhood to Wootton) but MCPS hasn't identified HH as such, but they did identify FG as a walk zone to Crown.

Because they didn't draw new walk zones for the existing schools, they just used what their current walk zones are.

Very typical of the board. A neighborhood that literally backs up to the school and they deem it not walkable. Like the PP said, I think all neighborhoods except Park Potomac are walkable to Wootton. I know Fox Hills West is considered walkable to Wootton and that neighborhood is further than Horizon Hill. I know Copenhaver has a bus because parts of that neighborhood and that little area behind are deemed not walkable to Wootton. But again, every RPES neighborhood besides Park Potomac has easy access to walk thru neighborhoods/parks and down Wootton Parkway with a 6ft wide walk/bike path. And there are already so many kids in those neighborhoods that have COSA to Wootton as you can see them all walking home. No waiting on buses or activity

buses. Just walk the 10-20min home.

Make sure to include this information about walkability in the mcps survey.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

They haven't even identified a need for a HS holding school at all. Many schools can be rebuilt on site without moving students to a holding school. It just wasn't deemed feasible for Northwood, so that's why they're at Woodward now.

Wootton can not be rebuilt on site. They need a holding school. They barely have any land, there is only one entrance to the school on a very busy 1 lane road and they back up to a middle school with shared land. If anything, the new school has to have a smaller footprint (building up) so that they can actually have normal size fields and parking which they don't have compared to all other high schools. QO has more land and may be able to get away with not have a holding school, but the point is the board never thinks or plans ahead and keeps budget costs in mind.

Has that been explored as an option? Frost has 24.78 acres, which is very large for a middle school in MCPS. (15.5 acres is the standard recommended size.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

They haven't even identified a need for a HS holding school at all. Many schools can be rebuilt on site without moving students to a holding school. It just wasn't deemed feasible for Northwood, so that's why they're at Woodward now.

Wootton can not be rebuilt on site. They need a holding school. They barely have any land, there is only one entrance to the school on a very busy 1 lane road and they back up to a middle school with shared land. If anything, the new school has to have a smaller footprint (building up) so that they can actually have normal size fields and parking which they don't have compared to all other high schools. QO has more land and may be able to get away with not have a holding school, but the point is the board never thinks or plans ahead and keeps budget costs in mind.

Has that been explored as an option? Frost has 24.78 acres, which is very large for a middle school in MCPS. (15.5 acres is the standard recommended size.)

What are you trying say? Frost has some land but the building is small and old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article why crown HS has to be built.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2025/06/09/the-ticking-clock-for-crown-high-school/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKz2FtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmj_dkkdMJzSXZRrew-rKjqI9NwW__-Wamv1ZP7IxQinRH3TQabKa4by4MQc_aem_LyEHls_vtIrIgygDTlDYIw

I only read the excerpts from the article and not the actual agreement.

But it doesn't seem to say that Crown can't be used as a holding school, while they renovate existing schools, possibly making them bigger and allowing them to have a bigger area feed into them, which would help with balancing demographics and alleviate some of the overcrowding at other schools.

They haven't even identified a need for a HS holding school at all. Many schools can be rebuilt on site without moving students to a holding school. It just wasn't deemed feasible for Northwood, so that's why they're at Woodward now.

Wootton can not be rebuilt on site. They need a holding school. They barely have any land, there is only one entrance to the school on a very busy 1 lane road and they back up to a middle school with shared land. If anything, the new school has to have a smaller footprint (building up) so that they can actually have normal size fields and parking which they don't have compared to all other high schools. QO has more land and may be able to get away with not have a holding school, but the point is the board never thinks or plans ahead and keeps budget costs in mind.

Has that been explored as an option? Frost has 24.78 acres, which is very large for a middle school in MCPS. (15.5 acres is the standard recommended size.)

What are you trying say? Frost has some land but the building is small and old.

And some big slopes which are useless for sports