Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Why is the federal government trying to involve themselves in specific cases of school discipline? Don't you think they have better things to do?

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Not something I want to pay taxes for. The administration needs to focus on inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Why is the federal government trying to involve themselves in specific cases of school discipline? Don't you think they have better things to do?

DP. Sounds very Big Government to me. What’s that famous phrase Ronald Reagan said? “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Not something I want to pay taxes for. The administration needs to focus on inflation.

The administration is busy. They’re planning a parade. It will be the biggliest bestest most expensive parades in the history of DC parades. Courtesy of your tax dollars.

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Harvard should just drop the non-profit charade and then they can really focus on foreign students better. They shouldn't be getting grants and tax breaks to train our competitors.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Which country has historically itself out as the beacon of freedom, democracy and free speech? Lately, it has definitely not been the USA. I guess all history has an ending. But to answer your ridiculous question, international students in the UK may participate in protests.

Free speech is one thing. Blocking streets and buildings, disrupting campus activities and classes, intimidating people, trashing buildings, etc is not free speech and not allowed in UK. Foreign students should welcome the opportunity to be here. Otherwise, return home.

Funnily enough, universities here don't "allow" disruptive protests either. Those kids get in trouble. Next.

And they demanded Harvard provide the records. Harvard refused to comply.

Not something I want to pay taxes for. The administration needs to focus on inflation.

The administration is busy. They’re planning a parade. It will be the biggliest bestest most expensive parades in the history of DC parades. Courtesy of your tax dollars.

This is true - I helped plan it. It was a parade the likes of which no one has seen before, but Trump insisted that it still wasn't big enough. I had tears in my eyes as I said "Sir, this is the biggest we can possibly do" but we figured out a way to do a fantastic job making it even bigger.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should just drop the non-profit charade and then they can really focus on foreign students better. They shouldn't be getting grants and tax breaks to train our competitors.

And you want to this for every university and every boarding school in the country, because they are 99% non-profits.

And why do you view foreigners as "competitors"?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is such a dumba**. Now he’s claiming that foreign students need remedial math. On the contrary, when I was a student in Boston, I had a lot of international friends at Harvard and MIT; some were grad TAs and they said that they had to teach Americans remedial math.

Harvard has started offering remedial math courses.

Yes, but the American students are filling the remedial math courses...not the foreign students he wants to keep out. Because other countries actually teach math and literacy in high schools.

Agree, but we’ve lowered the bar for everything in education and it seems now that’s been intentional to justify bringing in lower wage workers (via college grads) from overseas rhat they can abuse and take advantage over. We continue to graduate students without educating them. This is one of many departures from what schools were once like. The Universal Party (red + blue) hates Americans. The Democrats are actually happy with Trump dismantling things so they don’t have to do it behind the scenes post 2028.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

+100

We all know now that Barron must have been rejected from Harvard since Trump is going after them so hard.

Probably Columbia too.
Isn’t it odd that Trump is not concerned about any other universities? Trump is such a transparent whiner.

+20

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard should just drop the non-profit charade and then they can really focus on foreign students better. They shouldn't be getting grants and tax breaks to train our competitors.

You sound stupid. Just saying. Nearly every university in the country enroll international students. International students paying full pay is the single largest export the USA provide. Education exports is greater than what this country export in natural gas, corn, soybeans, microchips, you name it. And you just want the government to throw away 44 billion dollars. What are you going to replace it with, not soybeans.
https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/leading-research-universities-report/new-analysis-shows-international-students-contributed

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2025/05/24/five-fast-facts-about-international-students-studying-at-us-colleges/

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is such a dumba**. Now he’s claiming that foreign students need remedial math. On the contrary, when I was a student in Boston, I had a lot of international friends at Harvard and MIT; some were grad TAs and they said that they had to teach Americans remedial math.

Harvard has started offering remedial math courses.

Yes, but the American students are filling the remedial math courses...not the foreign students he wants to keep out. Because other countries actually teach math and literacy in high schools.

It's not as though Harvard was unable to admit American students who have the skills. They chose diversity instead.

Sorry. You really don't know what you are talking about. I did undergrad and grad school at Harvard. I have also taught there. The foreign students are extraordinarily qualified. They are not chosen for diversity. Many of these students are Canadian and white Europeans and many others are from China -- which does not make it easier for them to get in. How many Americans are math PhDs in the Harvard Department? Very few... because the American undergrads are the kids taking so-called "remedial Math." You people are ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:But so many American students struggling to get into college. It's great at the minimum that a light has been shown on Harvard that they have 30% some say 27%, but it's probably more of foreign students. Imagine your children being able to go to Harvard with these folks were not part of the admission process. I guarantee you Americans are not happy about that. I need to take care of our own country first until acceptance rates get higher. There should be no international students or at least a cap of like 5% which are normal for most schools

It’s a little sad that you seem to think that the motivation behind the Trump administration’s attack on Harvard and higher ed in general is an attempt to level the admissions playing field for US citizen students. It’s about power and control and is right out of the authoritarian playbook and every dictator has done it before.

Also, if you knew the first thing about other countries and their universities, you would know that most in the world accept foreign students and many accept a whole bunch of them. And where did you get that 5% number for a cap for foreign students. Did you pull it out of the air when you claimed it was “normal” for “most schools”?

He totally pulled the 5% number out of thin air.

Fortunately, NYT has some data:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/upshot/harvard-trump-international-students.html

Which countries allow foreign students to engage in protests?

Antisemitic protests, specifically.

Harvard is hiding the disciplinary records of antisemites. That is what this about.

+1

Donnie and Barron were rejected from Harvard.

Obama and his daughter were admitted.

That’s what this is about. Another case of Trump trying to get back at people that hurt his precious feelings.

Wouldn’t surprise me, but there’s no proof of this.

Well his mini application to NYU was leaked when the school system was hacked. It was all over Reddit. He applied after the application deadline on a Wednesday and accepted the next day on a Thursday. Circumstantial evidence that he did not get into any of the universities he initially applied, and somebody phoned a friend at NYU. It happens for a lot of kids lucky enough to have parents with connections. Barron's situation would not have been unique.

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t send him to Miami instead. NYU is a lot more liberal, maybe he just wanted to be back in New York.