Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
Anonymous wrote:They should send Highland to Woodward. It’s an easy bus ride down Randolph and would increase equity. That frees up space at Einstein. Then they should move the Woodmoor neighborhood to Northwood. It’s also an easy bus ride and would increase equity (for opposite reasons) and that would free up space at Blair. The rest of Woodward could be filled with more western schools with overcapacity issues but I don’t know those neighborhoods as well.
1) what equity are you talking about?
2) those kids can hit Blair with a rock from their houses. South four corners already goes to Northwood while facing Blair. It makes no sense
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
You are both correct. They have had to make some adjustments to the upper part of the boundary which is further from the original location in order to accommodate the population increase. I would expect more of this even when Northwood size is increased.
Anonymous wrote:They should send Highland to Woodward. It’s an easy bus ride down Randolph and would increase equity. That frees up space at Einstein. Then they should move the Woodmoor neighborhood to Northwood. It’s also an easy bus ride and would increase equity (for opposite reasons) and that would free up space at Blair. The rest of Woodward could be filled with more western schools with overcapacity issues but I don’t know those neighborhoods as well.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
You are right. It is a full half mile from DTSS.
OMG OMG it might take 5-10 minutes to walk there!
So you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring? This is not a question about walking speeds, it's a question about geographic location.
For what it's worth, I can't walk half a mile in five minutes. Can you?
Anonymous wrote:They should send Highland to Woodward. It’s an easy bus ride down Randolph and would increase equity. That frees up space at Einstein. Then they should move the Woodmoor neighborhood to Northwood. It’s also an easy bus ride and would increase equity (for opposite reasons) and that would free up space at Blair. The rest of Woodward could be filled with more western schools with overcapacity issues but I don’t know those neighborhoods as well.
Seems like a great solution!
DP - so the only school to move from the DCC to Woodward would be Highland? That would suck for the Highland kids.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
You are right. It is a full half mile from DTSS.
OMG OMG it might take 5-10 minutes to walk there!
So you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring? This is not a question about walking speeds, it's a question about geographic location.
For what it's worth, I can't walk half a mile in five minutes. Can you?
The right solution is to move some of Takoma Park and some of Woodside to Northwood. They’re the most vocal advocates for busing so they should have no problem with their kids getting driven past Blair every day to go to Northwood.
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
You are right. It is a full half mile from DTSS.
OMG OMG it might take 5-10 minutes to walk there!
So you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring? This is not a question about walking speeds, it's a question about geographic location.
For what it's worth, I can't walk half a mile in five minutes. Can you?
What is the point of this argument?
It's not an argument. It's a question. Do you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring, or, the other way around, do you think downtown Silver Spring includes SSIMS?
Anonymous wrote:The WJ community has been advocating for no split articulations for as long as they've been advocating to reopen Woodward (MCPS originally wanted to build WJ to 3500). Cannot believe there's over 50 pages of speculation and snark. The boundary process will start "early 2024" and go through Fall 2024, so we will all know soon enough what MCPS is proposong https://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/WoodwardHS_BoundaryStudyScope.pdf
But until then, by all means, carry on
By explicitly including the high schools and middle schools in the boundary study while excluding elementary schools, MCPS is either going to move ES's around wholesale or have split articulation. They'll struggle to make it work without split articulation.
Exactly. Part of the goal is to break the clusters, which was the impetus for the district wide boundary analysis. And despite some of the bizarre claims in this thread, the spilt articulations will be at the ES level, not the neighborhood level. Whole ESs will split articulate to different MSs and HSs.
Yes, but that all depends on where they draw the lines. Your idea of what constitutes a neighborhood may not match MCPS's.
Huh? They have explicitly committed to not looking at ES boundaries. So this is a shell game of moving around different ESs to assign to different MSs and HSs to maximize capacity while taking into account diversity and distance.
"Not looking at ES boundaries" only means that everyone will stay assigned to the ES they are at now. But they can and likely will take one or two neighborhoods within an ES zone and reassign them to a different MS and/or HS.
No they won’t and there are obvious and basic practical reasons why they won’t.
Go look at the Clarksburg/Northwest/Seneca Valley study, which was the most recent redrawing of HS boundaries. There were several places where they carved out one part of an ES, usually because it made sense due to proximity/walkability.
So in this dream you have where your house gets reassigned to BCC, how do they fit? The school has a spare capacity of 30 seats and there are thousands of new housing units being built in the walk zone.
+1 Quite obviously the only reason to include BCC and Whitman is to plan how to use available capacity at WJ to accommodate enrollment growth at those two schools due to current and future planned development. Woodard will be the outlet for DCC HS overcapacity, as MCPS has already committed.
Not exactly. Any school included in the boundary study may be an outlet for another school being overcapacity. The fact that Woodward is very inconveniently located for most DCC schools means there aren't a lot of sensible choices for rezoning them directly to Woodward. But they can stagger the reassignments in a westward direction to maximize walkers and shorten bus route times.
The whole point of a consortium is you can balance capacity. All 5 consortia schools are not bursting at the the seams they have mechanisms to balance this out without adding a school, they are just choosing not to do so
By the time Woodward opens, the only DCC school with any capacity will be the expanded Northwood, with 471 seats open. Not nearly enough to account for the overcrowding at Blair (-582 seats), Einstein (-465 seats), and Wheaton (-368 seats). And that doesn't even factor in the projected growth in each school in the years after that.
Woodward is supposed to address adjacent schools like Wheaton and Einstein as much as WJ.
By taking that area from BCC in Kensington and giving it to one of the closer schools they can shift it's boundary east and pick up more from Einstein too. By freeing up more room at Einstein they can shift some seats from Blair boundary and between that and Northwood reduce overcrowding.
The only school closer to the Kensington part of BCC than BCC itself is Einstein. So that won't be a way to free up any room at Einstein.
But Woodward will free up space at Einstein.
In theory. Still waiting for anyone to come up with a plausible scenario that keeps current Einstein walkers as walkers, adds additional walkers to Einstein who are currently bussed elsewhere, and frees up enough space so that everyone will fit inside the building, which as a reminder, has a capacity of only 1602.
You seem quite caught up on protecting Einstein walkers from a change of assignment. No solution is going to be perfect for everyone.
Many of us purposely choose to live in the Einstein catchment and want our kids there. We don't want our kids bussed to Woodward which isn't convenient for drop off/pick up if you have a kid in activities/sports.
Why can’t the Sligo kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Einstein
Why can't the Takoma Park kids go to Woodward? Many are far from Blair
I thought we were talking about Einstein walkers.
True, but Blair's boundary is based on its original location in downtown Silver Spring.
No, it's not. We used to be zoned for Blair but were moved to Northwood. It's a fallacy to think that you have a say now just because of the way things ar enow. The Board does what it wants to do.
That's incorrect. Blair's current boundary is a function of the school's boundary before it was moved from downtown silver spring. Further, there is no other high-school in that part of the county.
I don't think of SSIMS as being in downtown Silver Spring.
You are right. It is a full half mile from DTSS.
OMG OMG it might take 5-10 minutes to walk there!
So you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring? This is not a question about walking speeds, it's a question about geographic location.
For what it's worth, I can't walk half a mile in five minutes. Can you?
What is the point of this argument?
It's not an argument. It's a question. Do you think SSIMS is in downtown Silver Spring, or, the other way around, do you think downtown Silver Spring includes SSIMS?
It is not within the boundaries of the Silver Spring Urban District so I would say no it is not in DTSS. However it is really close, and meaningfully closer than the current Blair campus. It is true to when Blair moved, it moved away from DTSS.