Possible legal challenge against TJ lottery

[Anonymous]

Possible legal challenge to TJ lottery on race and disparity
No lottery for the magnet schools. I hope FCPS don't waste time and tax money



LAWSUIT CALLS NEW ARLINGTON SCHOOL LOTTERY UNFAIR TO WHITE CHILDREN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1998/....-11df-4ca2-93ea-9ffd38e49625/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Possible legal challenge to TJ lottery on race and disparity
No lottery for the magnet schools. I hope FCPS don't waste time and tax money



LAWSUIT CALLS NEW ARLINGTON SCHOOL LOTTERY UNFAIR TO WHITE CHILDREN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1998/....-11df-4ca2-93ea-9ffd38e49625/

Several Ed a district court judges, several 4th circuit court of appeals judges who are anti affirmative action were confirmed in the last few years. The lottery system will certainly be struck. Case doesn’t even have to go to the new Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

why is the same dead link being posted in multiple threads? If you want to spam post, at least use a link that works

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why is the same dead link being posted in multiple threads? If you want to spam post, at least use a link that works

Works for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is the same dead link being posted in multiple threads? If you want to spam post, at least use a link that works

Works for me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1998[u]/....-11df-4ca2-93ea-9ffd38e49625/

problem solved- at least post a relatively recent article if you're going to spam post

[Anonymous]

That old case doesn't invalidate all lotteries. It invalidated a lottery used over 20 years ago that was expressly race-weighted, which the TJ proposal is not.

OP sounds like a moron who just wants to keep the deck stacked in favor of people who pay to play by enrolling their kids in test prep centers with special access to exam questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That old case doesn't invalidate all lotteries. It invalidated a lottery used over 20 years ago that was expressly race-weighted, which the TJ proposal is not.

OP sounds like a moron who just wants to keep the deck stacked in favor of people who pay to play by enrolling their kids in test prep centers with special access to exam questions.

Disparate impact applies. The new anti affirmative action judges in edva and 4th circuit are salivating to strike down affirmative action or use of race in admissions or cases with disparate impact.

[Anonymous]

Clearly the OP didn't read the article or the judicial opinion on the case that was posted. A lottery based system for magnet schools, in and of itself, is not unconstitutional. Using race as the primary criteria is the issue. FCPS is not doing that in the lottery system they would like to implement. The first threshold is the GPA requirement, then they implement the Region-based quota--the actual proxy for race consideration--and then they will figure out a way to handle the lottery aspect of the final pool accepted. Now if there are no Hispanic or Africian Americans in the Region capable of meeting the 3.5 GPA, FCPS will have the same issue it currently has, but I assume certain schools will be told to bolster grade point averages for students in order to qualify more URM students for the lottery. Whether or not teachers or Administrators do this will depend on their ethical standards. But the plan will withstand legal challenges because it doesn't inherently favor one race over the other in an in-your-face way. It's more subtle than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That old case doesn't invalidate all lotteries. It invalidated a lottery used over 20 years ago that was expressly race-weighted, which the TJ proposal is not.

OP sounds like a moron who just wants to keep the deck stacked in favor of people who pay to play by enrolling their kids in test prep centers with special access to exam questions.

Courts always look at old judgments ..

Can we send Athletes to Olympics with no prep ? if you want Gold medal, yes you need dedication, skill and prep

Why dont FCPS start another STEM program at different low rated high school with TJ Principal and some staff ? so access to more students and improves diversity too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly the OP didn't read the article or the judicial opinion on the case that was posted. A lottery based system for magnet schools, in and of itself, is not unconstitutional. Using race as the primary criteria is the issue. FCPS is not doing that in the lottery system they would like to implement. The first threshold is the GPA requirement, then they implement the Region-based quota--the actual proxy for race consideration--and then they will figure out a way to handle the lottery aspect of the final pool accepted. Now if there are no Hispanic or Africian Americans in the Region capable of meeting the 3.5 GPA, FCPS will have the same issue it currently has, but I assume certain schools will be told to bolster grade point averages for students in order to qualify more URM students for the lottery. Whether or not teachers or Administrators do this will depend on their ethical standards. But the plan will withstand legal challenges because it doesn't inherently favor one race over the other in an in-your-face way. It's more subtle than that.

Imagine being racist enough to believe this. Good grief. This is just horrendous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That old case doesn't invalidate all lotteries. It invalidated a lottery used over 20 years ago that was expressly race-weighted, which the TJ proposal is not.

OP sounds like a moron who just wants to keep the deck stacked in favor of people who pay to play by enrolling their kids in test prep centers with special access to exam questions.

Courts always look at old judgments ..

Can we send Athletes to Olympics with no prep ? if you want Gold medal, yes you need dedication, skill and prep

Why dont FCPS start another STEM program at different low rated high school with TJ Principal and some staff ? so access to more students and improves diversity too.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but the fact that lots of families in this area see admission to TJ as equivalent to an Olympic Gold medal, or an NBA roster spot, or even a high school team roster spot is maybe the best argument for why TJ is the toxic environment that it is, and that it needs to fundamentally change.

[Anonymous]

TJ as it's been in recent years is a thing of the past.

If it doesn't change, applications will only continue to decline because the ugliness of the current TJ community has been on full display, and it's not a pretty thing.

If it does change, it will have a lower profile and be more representative of the communities it serves.

If the crazies can find some Trump-loving judge to invalidate the lottery system FCPS will just shut it down entirely, which is entirely within its power to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That old case doesn't invalidate all lotteries. It invalidated a lottery used over 20 years ago that was expressly race-weighted, which the TJ proposal is not.

OP sounds like a moron who just wants to keep the deck stacked in favor of people who pay to play by enrolling their kids in test prep centers with special access to exam questions.

Courts always look at old judgments ..

Can we send Athletes to Olympics with no prep ? if you want Gold medal, yes you need dedication, skill and prep

Why dont FCPS start another STEM program at different low rated high school with TJ Principal and some staff ? so access to more students and improves diversity too.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but the fact that lots of families in this area see admission to TJ as equivalent to an Olympic Gold medal, or an NBA roster spot, or even a high school team roster spot is maybe the best argument for why TJ is the toxic environment that it is, and that it needs to fundamentally change.

Then Niche / US News publish the ratings of high schools. Why dont FCPS move some of the TJ Science courses/clubs/equipment to other high schools ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it's been in recent years is a thing of the past.

If it doesn't change, applications will only continue to decline because the ugliness of the current TJ community has been on full display, and it's not a pretty thing.

If it does change, it will have a lower profile and be more representative of the communities it serves.

If the crazies can find some Trump-loving judge to invalidate the lottery system FCPS will just shut it down entirely, which is entirely within its power to do.

How would shutting it down help those who didnt get in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it's been in recent years is a thing of the past.

If it doesn't change, applications will only continue to decline because the ugliness of the current TJ community has been on full display, and it's not a pretty thing.

If it does change, it will have a lower profile and be more representative of the communities it serves.

If the crazies can find some Trump-loving judge to invalidate the lottery system FCPS will just shut it down entirely, which is entirely within its power to do.

How would shutting it down help those who didnt get in?

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