if somehow we could abolish the pay-to-play system in this country...

[Anonymous]

how many coaches would actually continue coaching? LOLZ

''the love of the game''

[Anonymous]

clubs in other countries still pay their coaches, who are professionals.

[Anonymous]

even if it is not "pay-to-play", someone need to pay the cost of coaches and fields and travels etc.

[Anonymous]

Oh no. Not another thread about this recurring topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how many coaches would actually continue coaching? LOLZ

''the love of the game''

yea, youth coaches sure getting rich

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how many coaches would actually continue coaching? LOLZ

''the love of the game''

Coaches should work for free?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how many coaches would actually continue coaching? LOLZ

''the love of the game''

Coaches should work for free?

All coaches are guilty of systemic coaching. In order to redress the balance, they should be pay kids for the opportunity to coach them.

[Anonymous]

What a ridiculous argument, OP. You are blaming pay-to-play on the coaches???

[Anonymous]

There was a guy just talking about this on SiriusXM FC coach academy show today at 3. I catch it mid way so did nit get the club or coaches names.

So coach/club is out in California. It was a DA club and they did/are doing very well. The guy said the relationship between the coaches, players and parents are totally different vs the big pay to play club.

Real interesting show. Talked about how everything at clubs now is about development and how that burns kids out at 15. Also said the development is pushed down to far to the lower ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous argument, OP. You are blaming pay-to-play on the coaches???

He probably is saying that many phony and mediocre guys and gals that claim to oh love the game so much and give back to the youth would probably tackle a different side gig if they got paid say maybe 1/10 of what currently get. I see someone mentioned they pay in Europe... yeah, major clubs that are professional. Not clubs that are in small cities/towns. Plus, those coaches are for the most part better suited and equipped than what DMV has to offer. Lawlz.

I mean, do you really think a U15 and U16 coach should be getting 15-20k per year for 4.5 hours work during weekdays (at most!!) and 1 match on weekends?

[Anonymous]

Let’s just say you pay $2000 in club fees. That is used for fields coaches salary insurance etc

If you practice 3 times per week and have 1 game. That’s 6 hours of coaching, not including matches away, coaches travel, time they spend away from the field planning for training etc.

That 6 hours, let’s say 48 weeks.

You are essentially paying $6.90 per hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just say you pay $2000 in club fees. That is used for fields coaches salary insurance etc

If you practice 3 times per week and have 1 game. That’s 6 hours of coaching, not including matches away, coaches travel, time they spend away from the field planning for training etc.

That 6 hours, let’s say 48 weeks.

You are essentially paying $6.90 per hour.

Players at the top levels are trying to earn scholarships worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, the pathway here is unlike any other country in the world. I don’t think coaches in Europe have to deal with college coaches, recruiting and traveling thousands of miles?

Should the lower levels of travel coast as much? Absolutely not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just say you pay $2000 in club fees. That is used for fields coaches salary insurance etc

If you practice 3 times per week and have 1 game. That’s 6 hours of coaching, not including matches away, coaches travel, time they spend away from the field planning for training etc.

That 6 hours, let’s say 48 weeks.

You are essentially paying $6.90 per hour.

I can’t find a baby sitter for $6.90

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just say you pay $2000 in club fees. That is used for fields coaches salary insurance etc

If you practice 3 times per week and have 1 game. That’s 6 hours of coaching, not including matches away, coaches travel, time they spend away from the field planning for training etc.

That 6 hours, let’s say 48 weeks.

You are essentially paying $6.90 per hour.

Lmao you math is flawed, to say the least. You used a kid’s fees... you might have wanted to say
Divide $20,000 by 288 (6 hours x 48 weeks). Gives you $69 per hour. However, no coach works 48 weeks out 52 in the year. Probably neither do you as a burger flipper. Or maybe yes, cause that’s legal slavery but that’s another debate.

Back to our math, a coach will be involved with a team from late August to thanksgiving. If I counted right that’s roughly 14-15 weeks -> Fall season
Then you have your mid March to Memorial Day weekend. If I counted right at the top of my head that gives me 11 weeks, let’s put 12 if somehow the team has one more game in June.

So about a total of 25-26 weeks.
26 weeks x 6 hrs per week = 156 hours of direct labor hands-on.
Yeah, planning and sh1t outside means extra time but... aren’t they teachers? I don’t see teachers b1tching like that and they do real world and serious planning. Not throwing a couple of lines on a screen and a few cones on the grass. Get a grip

$20,000 / 156 = you’re looking at $128/hr.

You might just wanna get out that burger join and pick up a D or C license with USSF and ride the wave!

But i sincerely commend you for your try though, Coach!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous argument, OP. You are blaming pay-to-play on the coaches???

He probably is saying that many phony and mediocre guys and gals that claim to oh love the game so much and give back to the youth would probably tackle a different side gig if they got paid say maybe 1/10 of what currently get. I see someone mentioned they pay in Europe... yeah, major clubs that are professional. Not clubs that are in small cities/towns. Plus, those coaches are for the most part better suited and equipped than what DMV has to offer. Lawlz.

I mean, do you really think a U15 and U16 coach should be getting 15-20k per year for 4.5 hours work during weekdays (at most!!) and 1 match on weekends?

Duh. Would you continue at your job if you got paid 1/10 of your current rate? I think not.

I do not worry too much about what other people make. The coaches I know work pretty hard at what they do and are very good at it. Your numbers are off, but even taking them at face value, $20,000 / (6.5 hrs per week X 40 hours per week) is about $77 per hour, the equivalent of a $150k salary. That is likely much higher than reality because your hours per week is too low.