Article on Frat Life at Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

This is not current, but it is relevant to the mother who asked if it is a safe place for young women.

Sounds like an extremely toxic environment. ( Not all the kids who go there, but a certain powerful contingent...who are not held in check)

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/confessions-of-an-ivy-league-frat-boy-inside-dartmouths-hazing-abuses-238604/

[Anonymous]

I knew a few guys who pledged Dartmouth frats back in the early 00’s. They were BRANDED with a hot iron. Apparently the tradition goes way back.

[Anonymous]

The best four years of my life.

[Anonymous]

The easy method is to ban fraternities, but they won't do it become alumni of fraternities bring in a lot of money.

Regardless as to it being an "unsafe" place for women, a lot of the "sexual assault" statistics are inflated and often outright fabricated with zero evidence. Feminists and those who majored in Gender Studies are constantly looking for new things to latch on to to grift off of with consulting fees/media appearances/books, etc. to the point that they are willing to ruin the lives of innocent (male) students to grift off of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The easy method is to ban fraternities, but they won't do it become alumni of fraternities bring in a lot of money.

Regardless as to it being an "unsafe" place for women, a lot of the "sexual assault" statistics are inflated and often outright fabricated with zero evidence. Feminists and those who majored in Gender Studies are constantly looking for new things to latch on to to grift off of with consulting fees/media appearances/books, etc. to the point that they are willing to ruin the lives of innocent (male) students to grift off of.

Hopefully you get laid one day.

Trinity College faced a similar dilemma with frats & alumni donations. They ended up forcing the Greek organizations to go co-Ed and have swiftly suspended frats for multiple years that violate the rules. Life goes on at Trinity.

[Anonymous]

Oh yeah. I am sure that those stories of girls getting raped at college are made up so Gender Studies professors can get TV appearances.

If you look at the scientific (public health) literature on sexual assault, it confirms that sexual assault is GROSSLY under-reported. Those researchers are probably all trying to get on TV also.

Listen to yourself.

[Anonymous]

I just can't imagine why parents would underwrite this "lifestyle," if you can call it that.

They probably either came from a similar environment or write it off to..."boys will be boys."

Just understand, a certain type of person is drawn to these "traditions" so if you wind up there, it is not like going to draw, for example, the type of kid who chooses a school with no Greek presence. The Brent Kavanaughs of the world like to swim in the same waters.

[Anonymous]

a lot of the "sexual assault" statistics are inflated .

This is absolutely true, and you don't have to be a incel in mom's basement to understand this.

You do, however, need to be older than 30.

[Anonymous]

PS-I realize Kavanaugh did not go to Dartmouth...but he had kindred spirits there...



https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2018/10/park-kava-no-more

[Anonymous]

That was a decade ago and the college has made a LOT of changes since then - strict alcohol policy, residential clusters, suspending some frats, etc. - in response to that article. Make sure you are up to date on the current environment, which isn't perfect but is no longer what's depicted in the article.

[Anonymous]

Here are some FACTS, which include that FACT that rape is the most under-reported crime. So there is that:

https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah. I am sure that those stories of girls getting raped at college are made up so Gender Studies professors can get TV appearances.

If you look at the scientific (public health) literature on sexual assault, it confirms that sexual assault is GROSSLY under-reported. Those researchers are probably all trying to get on TV also.

Listen to yourself.

Yeah just like the Duke Lacrosse case and UVA Rolling Stone were totally not made up.

The scientific evidence on sexual assault epidemic is extremely weak and basically based on surveys where literally everything counts as sexual assault. Somehow the number of students stating that they have been sexually assaulted has gone from 1/6 (already inflated) to 1/3 within a 2-3 years. This is not based on real trends, it's based on expanding the definition to include consensual sexual intercourse after barely drinking as rape, and anything without "explicit or affirmative consent" as rape and any level of "discomfort" as sexual harassment. Also sex after any level of requesting is rape. Basically by this definition, every married couple has raped each other (of course in reality only the male is considered the rapist). A Dean as Duke literally stated that when two drunk college kids have sex, the male is always guilty (and never the female)

The scientific literature on false accusations and false convictions on the other hand shows black men being imprisoned based on false accusations for 50+ years. The scientific literature on campus sexual assault shows that minority students are disproportionately getting kicked off campus with no attorney, no cross examination, no trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The easy method is to ban fraternities, but they won't do it become alumni of fraternities bring in a lot of money.

Regardless as to it being an "unsafe" place for women, a lot of the "sexual assault" statistics are inflated and often outright fabricated with zero evidence. Feminists and those who majored in Gender Studies are constantly looking for new things to latch on to to grift off of with consulting fees/media appearances/books, etc. to the point that they are willing to ruin the lives of innocent (male) students to grift off of.

Hopefully you get laid one day.

Trinity College faced a similar dilemma with frats & alumni donations. They ended up forcing the Greek organizations to go co-Ed and have swiftly suspended frats for multiple years that violate the rules. Life goes on at Trinity.

I'm married, but thank you.

What Trinity did is great for Trinity, but try asking Dartmouth, W&L, UVA and the vast majority of Publics to disband Frat orgs and maintain the same level of alumni funding.

[Anonymous]

Anyone remember when rolling stone investigated UVA?

[Anonymous]

Hmm money vs safe and civilized campuses. Why do you make that sound like a hard decision. We really have a long way to go.