Article on Frat Life at Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah. I am sure that those stories of girls getting raped at college are made up so Gender Studies professors can get TV appearances.

If you look at the scientific (public health) literature on sexual assault, it confirms that sexual assault is GROSSLY under-reported. Those researchers are probably all trying to get on TV also.

Listen to yourself.

Yeah just like the Duke Lacrosse case and UVA Rolling Stone were totally not made up.

The scientific evidence on sexual assault epidemic is extremely weak and basically based on surveys where literally everything counts as sexual assault. Somehow the number of students stating that they have been sexually assaulted has gone from 1/6 (already inflated) to 1/3 within a 2-3 years. This is not based on real trends, it's based on expanding the definition to include consensual sexual intercourse after barely drinking as rape, and anything without "explicit or affirmative consent" as rape and any level of "discomfort" as sexual harassment. Also sex after any level of requesting is rape. Basically by this definition, every married couple has raped each other (of course in reality only the male is considered the rapist). A Dean as Duke literally stated that when two drunk college kids have sex, the male is always guilty (and never the female)

The scientific literature on false accusations and false convictions on the other hand shows black men being imprisoned based on false accusations for 50+ years. The scientific literature on campus sexual assault shows that minority students are disproportionately getting kicked off campus with no attorney, no cross examination, no trial.

The solid fact sheet provided earlier was balanced, for example acknowledging that false reports exist, though they make up less than 90% of all reports. This poster obviously has a very biased ax to grind...and sounds like he should get a job working for Betsy DeVoss (or maybe her boss?)

10% of a massive number of innocents to expel/convict firstly. Secondly, how do they know that its not far greater than 10%, considering no trial, no attorneys, no cross-examinations are allowed during these proceedings? [/quote

THey base their estimates on rigorous research, grounded in science, which is far more convincing that your rants.

Their "science" is based on baseless, evidence-free surveys. Surveys with loose definitions of words is not science.

Actually, part of what makes it science is that they define the variables they are measuring. It is called operationalization. You can disagree with their case definitions, but they are there for you to see. You can find other studies that define things other ways. That is literally how science works.

You are obviously not a scientist. If you were you would not be questioning the use of surveys to estimate the prevalence of private intimate behaviors.

No, surveys specifically make it non-scientific considering there is literally no experimentation possibly, it is the definition of pseudo-science

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The. Idiot. Is. Unhinged.

Can we please spill more tea about Dartmouth? Heard lots of bad things 2nd hand thru the women in my Ivy network about undergrad experiences and visiting for the weekend.

Is the MBA program any better?

Talk about unhinged, you seem to have very low intelligence and extremely impulsive. I don't think you should even be considering Dartmouth, and its pathetic for you to fabricate your "Ivy" network.

[Anonymous]

Okay.

So I guess people who study knowledge, attitudes and beliefs (all of which are abstract and cannot be measured any other away) are not scientists.

I like your respect for other types of science. Cool.

(Oh, and surveys can be given before an after interventions, so yeah...there is "Literally" experimentation. But I am done wasting my breath on someone of your sweeping ignorance.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay.

So I guess people who study knowledge, attitudes and beliefs (all of which are abstract and cannot be measured any other away) are not scientists.

I like your respect for other types of science. Cool.

(Oh, and surveys can be given before an after interventions, so yeah...there is "Literally" experimentation. But I am done wasting my breath on someone of your sweeping ignorance.)

Respecting pseudoscience is like respecting holistic medicine. Not only does it lead to misinformation, it decreases the respect people have for actual science and medicine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay.

So I guess people who study knowledge, attitudes and beliefs (all of which are abstract and cannot be measured any other away) are not scientists.

I like your respect for other types of science. Cool.

(Oh, and surveys can be given before an after interventions, so yeah...there is "Literally" experimentation. But I am done wasting my breath on someone of your sweeping ignorance.)

Respecting pseudoscience is like respecting holistic medicine. Not only does it lead to misinformation, it decreases the respect people have for actual science and medicine.

NP: Survey research on knowledge/attitudes/beliefs are not pseudo-science--they have falsifiability, replication, and methods that are subject to peer review. That's textbook definition of "actual" science.

[Anonymous]

This whole thread isn’t about Dartmouth. I’m a woman who went to Dartmouth and sent a kid to Dartmouth recently. It’s come a long way and while there’s room for improvement, as clearly there is room for improvement in pretty much every school and every part of society, the kids choosing it are part of the change. My son wanted nothing to do with toxic male culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The. Idiot. Is. Unhinged.

Can we please spill more tea about Dartmouth? Heard lots of bad things 2nd hand thru the women in my Ivy network about undergrad experiences and visiting for the weekend.

Is the MBA program any better?

Talk about unhinged, you seem to have very low intelligence and extremely impulsive. I don't think you should even be considering Dartmouth, and its pathetic for you to fabricate your "Ivy" network.

Are you disputing that rape, especially rape on college campuses, is under-reported?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread isn’t about Dartmouth. I’m a woman who went to Dartmouth and sent a kid to Dartmouth recently. It’s come a long way and while there’s room for improvement, as clearly there is room for improvement in pretty much every school and every part of society, the kids choosing it are part of the change. My son wanted nothing to do with toxic male culture.

Good for him (and good for you, raising him as you did !)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay.

So I guess people who study knowledge, attitudes and beliefs (all of which are abstract and cannot be measured any other away) are not scientists.

I like your respect for other types of science. Cool.

(Oh, and surveys can be given before an after interventions, so yeah...there is "Literally" experimentation. But I am done wasting my breath on someone of your sweeping ignorance.)

Respecting pseudoscience is like respecting holistic medicine. Not only does it lead to misinformation, it decreases the respect people have for actual science and medicine.

NP: Survey research on knowledge/attitudes/beliefs are not pseudo-science--they have falsifiability, replication, and methods that are subject to peer review. That's textbook definition of "actual" science.

No, its not. Stating that statistics are under-reported by citing surveys that require no proof nor evidence, entirely based on the survey taker's discretion, is not fact nor science. It's the definition of pseudoscience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The. Idiot. Is. Unhinged.

Can we please spill more tea about Dartmouth? Heard lots of bad things 2nd hand thru the women in my Ivy network about undergrad experiences and visiting for the weekend.

Is the MBA program any better?

Talk about unhinged, you seem to have very low intelligence and extremely impulsive. I don't think you should even be considering Dartmouth, and its pathetic for you to fabricate your "Ivy" network.

Are you disputing that rape, especially rape on college campuses, is under-reported?

Can you not follow the conversation? The sexual assault statistics are vastly overinflated due to unscientific surveys that use fast-and-loose definition of words that don't conform to their actual definitions and with no evidence or proof required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay.

So I guess people who study knowledge, attitudes and beliefs (all of which are abstract and cannot be measured any other away) are not scientists.

I like your respect for other types of science. Cool.

(Oh, and surveys can be given before an after interventions, so yeah...there is "Literally" experimentation. But I am done wasting my breath on someone of your sweeping ignorance.)

Respecting pseudoscience is like respecting holistic medicine. Not only does it lead to misinformation, it decreases the respect people have for actual science and medicine.

NP: Survey research on knowledge/attitudes/beliefs are not pseudo-science--they have falsifiability, replication, and methods that are subject to peer review. That's textbook definition of "actual" science.

No, its not. Stating that statistics are under-reported by citing surveys that require no proof nor evidence, entirely based on the survey taker's discretion, is not fact nor science. It's the definition of pseudoscience.

The construct you are very clumsily trying to describe is called “validation.”

—Signed, a pseudoscientist who lacks your vast understanding of how it all works

[Anonymous]

I am a Dartmouth alumnae and would be very comfortable sending my daughter there in a few years if she is interested and gets accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread isn’t about Dartmouth. I’m a woman who went to Dartmouth and sent a kid to Dartmouth recently. It’s come a long way and while there’s room for improvement, as clearly there is room for improvement in pretty much every school and every part of society, the kids choosing it are part of the change. My son wanted nothing to do with toxic male culture.

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Exhibit A -Legacy is very strong at Dartmouth