20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

How about you can only buy a gun if you
1. Were a net taxpayer in the previous year (i.e. paid more than you got in benefits)
2. Cannot be claimed as a dependent by anyone
3. Over 25
That would take care of at least half of these crazies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

Hmm. Let's see if you can understand these difficult question: how many people can you hurt in 30 seconds with an automatic weapon? what about with a knife? how likely are people to be able to escape someone holding an automatic weapon vs someone holding a knife? what are the chances that someone can overpower an attacker with a baseball bat vs an attacker with a knife?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about you can only buy a gun if you
1. Were a net taxpayer in the previous year (i.e. paid more than you got in benefits)
2. Cannot be claimed as a dependent by anyone
3. Over 25
That would take care of at least half of these crazies.

Apply this to voting also and you've got a deal.

[Anonymous]

You can't pin this on an entire community. I don't think this had anything to do with his orientation and more likely to do with some past trauma that screwed up his mind and then someone selling him a gun. Maybe he has deeply buried trauma tied to the Catholic Church, if he is attacking it like that.

There are plenty of trans people not killing people and living peaceful, productive lives, even if you don't personally know them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't pin this on an entire community. I don't think this had anything to do with his orientation and more likely to do with some past trauma that screwed up his mind and then someone selling him a gun. Maybe he has deeply buried trauma tied to the Catholic Church, if he is attacking it like that.

There are plenty of trans people not killing people and living peaceful, productive lives, even if you don't personally know them.

His orientation was a symptom of his mind being screwed up.
There are two flavors of MTF trans:
1. Very feminine gay guys who would rather be a woman. Most people have a lot of sympathy for them. I'm Republican and frankly I don't even mind them in the women's bathroom.
2. People like this. Of course most are not violent but a screw is loose somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't pin this on an entire community. I don't think this had anything to do with his orientation and more likely to do with some past trauma that screwed up his mind and then someone selling him a gun. Maybe he has deeply buried trauma tied to the Catholic Church, if he is attacking it like that.

There are plenty of trans people not killing people and living peaceful, productive lives, even if you don't personally know them.

He made a change he felt he couldn’t come back from without a deep sense of embarrassment and shame. That sent him on a course of nihilist thought. The teenage years are supposed to be about exploring your identity, but the adults in your life should not be cementing that exploration. Affirmation of what can be temporary feelings is dangerous. We need to admit that and change how we care for these kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

Hmm. Let's see if you can understand these difficult question: how many people can you hurt in 30 seconds with an automatic weapon? what about with a knife? how likely are people to be able to escape someone holding an automatic weapon vs someone holding a knife? what are the chances that someone can overpower an attacker with a baseball bat vs an attacker with a knife?

This case did not involve an automatic weapon — a machine gun. Crimes involving automatic weapons are extremely rare, and unheard of when it comes to lawfully owned automatic weapons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

Hmm. Let's see if you can understand these difficult question: how many people can you hurt in 30 seconds with an automatic weapon? what about with a knife? how likely are people to be able to escape someone holding an automatic weapon vs someone holding a knife? what are the chances that someone can overpower an attacker with a baseball bat vs an attacker with a knife?

This case did not involve an automatic weapon — a machine gun. Crimes involving automatic weapons are extremely rare, and unheard of when it comes to lawfully owned automatic weapons.

He fired 116 rounds. Can we say it was semi-automatic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

It’s difficult to kill children with a knife or a baseball bat through a stained glass window.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't pin this on an entire community. I don't think this had anything to do with his orientation and more likely to do with some past trauma that screwed up his mind and then someone selling him a gun. Maybe he has deeply buried trauma tied to the Catholic Church, if he is attacking it like that.

There are plenty of trans people not killing people and living peaceful, productive lives, even if you don't personally know them.

He made a change he felt he couldn’t come back from without a deep sense of embarrassment and shame. That sent him on a course of nihilist thought. The teenage years are supposed to be about exploring your identity, but the adults in your life should not be cementing that exploration. Affirmation of what can be temporary feelings is dangerous. We need to admit that and change how we care for these kids.

+1

This is my guess as to why his mother is now on the run

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't pin this on an entire community. I don't think this had anything to do with his orientation and more likely to do with some past trauma that screwed up his mind and then someone selling him a gun. Maybe he has deeply buried trauma tied to the Catholic Church, if he is attacking it like that.

There are plenty of trans people not killing people and living peaceful, productive lives, even if you don't personally know them.

His orientation was a symptom of his mind being screwed up.
There are two flavors of MTF trans:
1. Very feminine gay guys who would rather be a woman. Most people have a lot of sympathy for them. I'm Republican and frankly I don't even mind them in the women's bathroom.
2. People like this. Of course most are not violent but a screw is loose somewhere.

Trans people fall into as many categories as cis people. There are two types of cis women. Very feminine women and screwed up ones. Humans have a lot more variation than that but I guess this helps you feel better believing you can categorize all trans women into box a and box b.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

Hmm. Let's see if you can understand these difficult question: how many people can you hurt in 30 seconds with an automatic weapon? what about with a knife? how likely are people to be able to escape someone holding an automatic weapon vs someone holding a knife? what are the chances that someone can overpower an attacker with a baseball bat vs an attacker with a knife?

This case did not involve an automatic weapon — a machine gun. Crimes involving automatic weapons are extremely rare, and unheard of when it comes to lawfully owned automatic weapons.

He fired 116 rounds. Can we say it was semi-automatic?

You tell us. All I’ve seen so far is a rifle, a shotgun and a handgun, with no further specifics.

[Anonymous]

It really seems like Robin came from a troubled family. So many police calls over the few years. That is not normal. Sounds like older siblings are also deeply troubled. And now the mother is not cooperating...all big red flags. Something was going on with this family.

And sounds like he had a lot of conflicted feeling about being transgendered. Wish he never brainwashed himself, whatever that means. Sounds like a deeply troubled kid from a troubled family, who looked for answers in the wrong places, and got himself even deeper in trouble/confusion.

[Anonymous]

As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now the mother is not cooperating with the investigation and has hired a criminal defense attorney. Just great.

Robin is 23 years old. Five years over the starting age in this country as an adult, lived in an apartment and bought the weapons recently at his house. People still want to blame her. Plus she has to deal with the fact that she worked there. Is she not cooperating by getting an attorney? Maybe she has something to hide or maybe she is just being careful. He lived with his father last before the apartment I read.