20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:This literally doesn’t happen in any other country. It’s the guns. It will always be the guns. Anyone insisting otherwise is just not smart. At all.

Yes it does.

Norway 2011 a man set off a Bonn that killed 7 then went to an island where there as a youth summer camp and shot and killed 67.

Sweden Feb 2025 School shooting 10 killed.

There are numerous others in Europe.

Get real statistics. You little plucked the only examples you could find. One is from freaking 2011!!!! That was before Sandy Hook for God’s sake! Do you know how many mass shootings we’ve had since then???

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Anonymous wrote:This literally doesn’t happen in any other country. It’s the guns. It will always be the guns. Anyone insisting otherwise is just not smart. At all.

Yes it does.

Norway 2011 a man set off a Bonn that killed 7 then went to an island where there as a youth summer camp and shot and killed 67.

Sweden Feb 2025 School shooting 10 killed.

There are numerous others in Europe.

Anecdote does not mean higher rate.

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Anonymous wrote:This literally doesn’t happen in any other country. It’s the guns. It will always be the guns. Anyone insisting otherwise is just not smart. At all.

Yes it does.

Norway 2011 a man set off a Bonn that killed 7 then went to an island where there as a youth summer camp and shot and killed 67.

Sweden Feb 2025 School shooting 10 killed.

There are numerous others in Europe.

Anecdote does not mean higher rate.

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Gun nutters are mentally ill and dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:This happened in my neighborhood, my community. My spouse went to high school with the father of one of the kids who died and we know 3 of the kids who were shot and survived.

It’s the guns. It’s always the guns. Mental health issues, societal problems, family issues, whatever it may be the guns are what make mass casualty events possible. There’s nothing else we can do but to ban and get rid of the f’in guns.

Agree. The mental health problems won't go away with a gun ban, but it makes those people far less deadly to others.

Except that if you’re not a mentally ill freak, owing guns is no problem at all.

DP. How are the people who sell guns supposed to identify mentally ill freaks?

Frankly I could have identified him as such just by looking at him.

20 something NEET whose only job was at a weed shop wearing pigtails and women's earrings...definitely a normal young man who needs a military grade firearm.
I want ALL gun crimes including illegal possession prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of whether the criminal belongs to a protected class. No exceptions.
-Republican

Prosecute gun crimes! Yes! But then it's too late. Most mass shooters kill themselves or are taken out during the event. There is no opportunity for justice for the victims and their families.

How about we do things BEFORE these people get the chance to kill others.

Agreed! Let's get the so-called trans some real help instead of indulging their clear mental illness.

As soon as you agree to outlaw assault rifles and high capacity magazines. We’ll wait.

Why? Millions of people own those weapons with no issue.

And mental illness exists in every other country and they don’t have school shootings. It’s the guns. You. Don’t. Need. A. Gun.

Thankfully, our rights don't depend on your definition of needs.

You have a right to carry a single shot musket. That's the type of gun the framers were thinking of when they wrote 2a.

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Anonymous wrote:This literally doesn’t happen in any other country. It’s the guns. It will always be the guns. Anyone insisting otherwise is just not smart. At all.

Yes it does.

Norway 2011 a man set off a Bonn that killed 7 then went to an island where there as a youth summer camp and shot and killed 67.

Sweden Feb 2025 School shooting 10 killed.

There are numerous others in Europe.

Get real statistics. You little plucked the only examples you could find. One is from freaking 2011!!!! That was before Sandy Hook for God’s sake! Do you know how many mass shootings we’ve had since then???

I listed at least 7 school shootings that happened in Europe a day ago on this post , I’m not relisting them and theye are more. Go google school shootings in Europe. Unfortunately theye us plenty of them. Google kindergarten stabbing in China, unfortunately there are many.

It would be comforting to think of we could only ban assault weapons our kids would be safe. While I think AR-15’s and assault weapons should be banned I am doubtful it would make a difference.

Over ten years ago I read a horrifying article written by a researcher/collehe professor/expert in the field that correctly predicted why school shootings would increase due to the publicity surrounding each shooting and how it somehow in the minds of killers becomes more acceptable as there is so much publicity and it is no longer novel. If anyone can find it I would like to read that paper again.

Right now the manifesto of this evil person is being circulated online. That should absolutely not be allowed. Some twisted and evil person is going to read it and become inspired just like this shooter was inspired by Sandy Hook.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who claim gun laws don’t work.

If, hypothetically, it could be proven beyond a doubt that stricter gun laws would significantly reduce gun deaths (particularly re: children), would you then agree to jump through some hoops (longer wait, limits on ammo, etc.)?

Because I’m fairly confident you’re just making the conclusory argument that gun reform won’t work so that you don’t have to admit to yourself that you just don’t want to be bothered. But even you know it sounds bad to say “I will accept the status quo of gun deaths because I don’t want to be inconvenienced,” so instead you’ll contort yourself into pretzels to blame any f-ing thing except the guns.

“Gun laws don’t work” isn’t “conclusory argument.” It’s an observation of demonstrated fact. And continued pursuit of the same tired, failed “solutions” takes attention and resources away from dealing with whatever has happened in US society to make some people think killing their neighbors is a desirable goal.

It’s not a demonstrated fact. You are some kind of political shill here trying out the only possible line that you think will work: blame gun violence on black people, trans people and SSRIs. You’re disgusting and literally have the blood of children in your hands.

Stop engaging the guy who thinks life was best when women could not vote.

That is a total mischaracterization of that person's position.

Corellation is not causation doesn't mean that the trend that is noticed is always the cause. There's actually a whole website that is dedicated to correlations which is quite humerous, like increases in cheese sold correlates with murder rates.



Rather the takeaway is that this wasn't a problem in the past. Something has changed that made mass shootings increase inspite of it being harder to get firearms than it was in the past.

Agree.

At this point: I have a confession to make: I took a gun to school

Yes, it’s true: every day of my last year in high school, I took a gun onto school property. And ammunition. You see, I was on the rifle team. Most of the guns were kept on school grounds (in a locked locker), but my private coach lent me a target rifle; an Anschutz 1413; the type of 22 used for Olympics type target competition.

We had way more access to guns in the 1980s; the difference was: we would never use them for violence. That is what’s changed.

Notice how you didn't have an AR-15.

I'm not saying that's the only thing, or even the main thing, but it is absolutely contributing to the number of deaths per incident.

We always had one in the house, but you missed the point as usual, CGCL.

We had MORE access to guns in the past. Difference was: we did not use them on each other.

The issue is mental health. And that problem goes far beyond the rare mass shooting.

It's unlikely you had an AR-15 in the house in the 80s. If you did, you were a highly exceptional situation. You probably didn't have a handgun, either, but if you did, it was probably a revolver.

There are some additional legal controls, but the firearms market has evolved to make guns much more accessible- especially the sorts of guns used in mass shootings.

First of all, AR15’s have been around since the 60’s and were more than widely popular by the 80’s.

Second, can you please explain how “the firearms market has evolved to make guns much more accessible” even as “additional legal controls” have been put in place?

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who claim gun laws don’t work.

If, hypothetically, it could be proven beyond a doubt that stricter gun laws would significantly reduce gun deaths (particularly re: children), would you then agree to jump through some hoops (longer wait, limits on ammo, etc.)?

Because I’m fairly confident you’re just making the conclusory argument that gun reform won’t work so that you don’t have to admit to yourself that you just don’t want to be bothered. But even you know it sounds bad to say “I will accept the status quo of gun deaths because I don’t want to be inconvenienced,” so instead you’ll contort yourself into pretzels to blame any f-ing thing except the guns.

“Gun laws don’t work” isn’t “conclusory argument.” It’s an observation of demonstrated fact. And continued pursuit of the same tired, failed “solutions” takes attention and resources away from dealing with whatever has happened in US society to make some people think killing their neighbors is a desirable goal.

It’s not a demonstrated fact. You are some kind of political shill here trying out the only possible line that you think will work: blame gun violence on black people, trans people and SSRIs. You’re disgusting and literally have the blood of children in your hands.

Stop engaging the guy who thinks life was best when women could not vote.

That is a total mischaracterization of that person's position.

Corellation is not causation doesn't mean that the trend that is noticed is always the cause. There's actually a whole website that is dedicated to correlations which is quite humerous, like increases in cheese sold correlates with murder rates.



Rather the takeaway is that this wasn't a problem in the past. Something has changed that made mass shootings increase inspite of it being harder to get firearms than it was in the past.

Agree.

At this point: I have a confession to make: I took a gun to school

Yes, it’s true: every day of my last year in high school, I took a gun onto school property. And ammunition. You see, I was on the rifle team. Most of the guns were kept on school grounds (in a locked locker), but my private coach lent me a target rifle; an Anschutz 1413; the type of 22 used for Olympics type target competition.

We had way more access to guns in the 1980s; the difference was: we would never use them for violence. That is what’s changed.

Notice how you didn't have an AR-15.

I'm not saying that's the only thing, or even the main thing, but it is absolutely contributing to the number of deaths per incident.

We always had one in the house, but you missed the point as usual, CGCL.

We had MORE access to guns in the past. Difference was: we did not use them on each other.

The issue is mental health. And that problem goes far beyond the rare mass shooting.

Both contribute, as do other factors in society now.

How can you possibly claim that people had MORE access to guns in the 80s compared to now with the internet, 3D printing etc. Please prove this assertion beyond your personal access due to the rifle team. FFS.

There is a mental health problem in this country and it is MAGA and gun fetishists. You love guns to the point of derangement.

Guns purchased via Internet are transferred via dealers with background checks, paperwork, etc. Non face to face sales were abolished in the 1960’s.

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Anonymous wrote:This happened in my neighborhood, my community. My spouse went to high school with the father of one of the kids who died and we know 3 of the kids who were shot and survived.

It’s the guns. It’s always the guns. Mental health issues, societal problems, family issues, whatever it may be the guns are what make mass casualty events possible. There’s nothing else we can do but to ban and get rid of the f’in guns.

Agree. The mental health problems won't go away with a gun ban, but it makes those people far less deadly to others.

Except that if you’re not a mentally ill freak, owing guns is no problem at all.

DP. How are the people who sell guns supposed to identify mentally ill freaks?

Frankly I could have identified him as such just by looking at him.

20 something NEET whose only job was at a weed shop wearing pigtails and women's earrings...definitely a normal young man who needs a military grade firearm.
I want ALL gun crimes including illegal possession prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of whether the criminal belongs to a protected class. No exceptions.
-Republican

Prosecute gun crimes! Yes! But then it's too late. Most mass shooters kill themselves or are taken out during the event. There is no opportunity for justice for the victims and their families.

How about we do things BEFORE these people get the chance to kill others.

Agreed! Let's get the so-called trans some real help instead of indulging their clear mental illness.

As soon as you agree to outlaw assault rifles and high capacity magazines. We’ll wait.

Why? Millions of people own those weapons with no issue.

And mental illness exists in every other country and they don’t have school shootings. It’s the guns. You. Don’t. Need. A. Gun.

Thankfully, our rights don't depend on your definition of needs.

You have a right to carry a single shot musket. That's the type of gun the framers were thinking of when they wrote 2a.

Then you better stop using the internet and start printing your nonsense on leaflets made on a manual printing press.

That's the type of freedom of speech the that existed when the framers wrote the 1st Amendment.

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Anonymous wrote:This happened in my neighborhood, my community. My spouse went to high school with the father of one of the kids who died and we know 3 of the kids who were shot and survived.

It’s the guns. It’s always the guns. Mental health issues, societal problems, family issues, whatever it may be the guns are what make mass casualty events possible. There’s nothing else we can do but to ban and get rid of the f’in guns.

Agree. The mental health problems won't go away with a gun ban, but it makes those people far less deadly to others.

Except that if you’re not a mentally ill freak, owing guns is no problem at all.

DP. How are the people who sell guns supposed to identify mentally ill freaks?

Frankly I could have identified him as such just by looking at him.

20 something NEET whose only job was at a weed shop wearing pigtails and women's earrings...definitely a normal young man who needs a military grade firearm.
I want ALL gun crimes including illegal possession prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of whether the criminal belongs to a protected class. No exceptions.
-Republican

Prosecute gun crimes! Yes! But then it's too late. Most mass shooters kill themselves or are taken out during the event. There is no opportunity for justice for the victims and their families.

How about we do things BEFORE these people get the chance to kill others.

Agreed! Let's get the so-called trans some real help instead of indulging their clear mental illness.

As soon as you agree to outlaw assault rifles and high capacity magazines. We’ll wait.

Why? Millions of people own those weapons with no issue.

And mental illness exists in every other country and they don’t have school shootings. It’s the guns. You. Don’t. Need. A. Gun.

Thankfully, our rights don't depend on your definition of needs.

You have a right to carry a single shot musket. That's the type of gun the framers were thinking of when they wrote 2a.

The framers were familiar with privately owned field artillery.

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Anonymous wrote:This happened in my neighborhood, my community. My spouse went to high school with the father of one of the kids who died and we know 3 of the kids who were shot and survived.

It’s the guns. It’s always the guns. Mental health issues, societal problems, family issues, whatever it may be the guns are what make mass casualty events possible. There’s nothing else we can do but to ban and get rid of the f’in guns.

Agree. The mental health problems won't go away with a gun ban, but it makes those people far less deadly to others.

Except that if you’re not a mentally ill freak, owing guns is no problem at all.

DP. How are the people who sell guns supposed to identify mentally ill freaks?

Frankly I could have identified him as such just by looking at him.

20 something NEET whose only job was at a weed shop wearing pigtails and women's earrings...definitely a normal young man who needs a military grade firearm.
I want ALL gun crimes including illegal possession prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of whether the criminal belongs to a protected class. No exceptions.
-Republican

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So now the mother is not cooperating with the investigation and has hired a criminal defense attorney. Just great.

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So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

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Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

Knives and baseball bats are not created for the purpose of killing.

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Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

I mean, you’re kidding, right? If this guy only had a knife or a bat, those two children would be alive and no one would be in the hospital. The church doors were locked and he shot through the stained glass windows to get to them. That wouldn’t work with a knife or bat.

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Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

I mean, you’re kidding, right? If this guy only had a knife or a bat, those two children would be alive and no one would be in the hospital. The church doors were locked and he shot through the stained glass windows to get to them. That wouldn’t work with a knife or bat.

Yes but see, he really likes guns. Without them he has no personality. He’s a gun guy.