20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

What is the trans community? I didn't think they gathered in large groups or communes together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

Our schools have absolutely none of that. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

Our schools have absolutely none of that. 🤷‍♀️

Where are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

Most schools don’t have metal detectors but they do have everything else listed. None of these things would have helped in this case since they went through the windows. The only thing I think would keep someone off the premises is a high gate and multiple security personnel. Prison like conditions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So people use guns as weapons. How is this different than using a knife? Or a baseball bat?

I mean, you’re kidding, right? If this guy only had a knife or a bat, those two children would be alive and no one would be in the hospital. The church doors were locked and he shot through the stained glass windows to get to them. That wouldn’t work with a knife or bat.

Yes but see, he really likes guns. Without them he has no personality. He’s a gun guy.

- another disgusting ammosexual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now the mother is not cooperating with the investigation and has hired a criminal defense attorney. Just great.

Robin is 23 years old. Five years over the starting age in this country as an adult, lived in an apartment and bought the weapons recently at his house. People still want to blame her. Plus she has to deal with the fact that she worked there. Is she not cooperating by getting an attorney? Maybe she has something to hide or maybe she is just being careful. He lived with his father last before the apartment I read.

Yes. I absolutely blame her, starting with her obviously stupid decision to sign papers allowing him to change his name at the age of 17. I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg in her stellar parenting.

[Anonymous]

Too bad Trump chose his 22 year intern to lead domestic terrorism prevention. The shooter had a ton of disturbing posting online and could have been flagged before she gunned down 2 elementary school kids.

Seems like that might be an important area to have some actual competent government professionals, but sadly that's in short supply in this admin.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

Most schools don’t have metal detectors but they do have everything else listed. None of these things would have helped in this case since they went through the windows. The only thing I think would keep someone off the premises is a high gate and multiple security personnel. Prison like conditions

And then even if you do that what happens if they can shoot through onto the playground when the kids are at recess. What about bus loading/unloading. Field trips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It really seems like Robin came from a troubled family. So many police calls over the few years. That is not normal. Sounds like older siblings are also deeply troubled. And now the mother is not cooperating...all big red flags. Something was going on with this family.

And sounds like he had a lot of conflicted feeling about being transgendered. Wish he never brainwashed himself, whatever that means. Sounds like a deeply troubled kid from a troubled family, who looked for answers in the wrong places, and got himself even deeper in trouble/confusion.

Do you have any links?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It really seems like Robin came from a troubled family. So many police calls over the few years. That is not normal. Sounds like older siblings are also deeply troubled. And now the mother is not cooperating...all big red flags. Something was going on with this family.

And sounds like he had a lot of conflicted feeling about being transgendered. Wish he never brainwashed himself, whatever that means. Sounds like a deeply troubled kid from a troubled family, who looked for answers in the wrong places, and got himself even deeper in trouble/confusion.

Do you have any links?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigators-say-no-red-flags-raised-minneapolis-church-shooter-rcna227856

Maybe mental illness or conduct disorders in multiple kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too bad Trump chose his 22 year intern to lead domestic terrorism prevention. The shooter had a ton of disturbing posting online and could have been flagged before she gunned down 2 elementary school kids.

Seems like that might be an important area to have some actual competent government professionals, but sadly that's in short supply in this admin.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention

This is so deeply disturbing. Just layers and layers of incompetence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now the mother is not cooperating with the investigation and has hired a criminal defense attorney. Just great.

Robin is 23 years old. Five years over the starting age in this country as an adult, lived in an apartment and bought the weapons recently at his house. People still want to blame her. Plus she has to deal with the fact that she worked there. Is she not cooperating by getting an attorney? Maybe she has something to hide or maybe she is just being careful. He lived with his father last before the apartment I read.

Yes. I absolutely blame her, starting with her obviously stupid decision to sign papers allowing him to change his name at the age of 17. I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg in her stellar parenting.

Why can't it be all three? Gun culture, mental illness, AND crappy parenting. It can be (and IS) ALL THREE. Let's address them all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual conservatives will blame the trans community, mental health treatments like SSRIs etc and liberals will call for gun control. No changes in any of these areas are realistically achievable, and discussion will end after about a week. All forgotten until the next time this happens.

My question is why is there so little discussion about enhanced security at schools? Which is actually achievable?? For example: at my kids’ old elementary school the gate is locked during school hours and visitors need to enter through the office. That is the extent of their “security” which is basically worthless. A gunman could just enter the office, take out the front desk ladies and then have free access to the entire school. No security personnel either. Their current high school is the exact same setup but they do have a police officer on site (whose office is somewhere in the back of the school). WHY is this?! Why aren’t there additional security procedures and why can basically anyone enter the front office?

It is my understanding that the church doors were locked during mass, as a security procedure, or this recent event could have been far worse.

My kids’ preschool (over a decade ago) had all doors locked during the day, with a video camera at the main entry door- with security needing to visualize and speak to you before the door was remotely unlocked. Apartment complexes have had such technology for decades.

But most public schools have, basically, no security at all. Anyone with a gun can pretty much waltz in and have free reign. Why?

It certainly wouldn’t prevent everything, but why does nothing seem to be done at all? These are all easy things.

This is not true where I live. All schools are locked and you have to show ID to a camera outside before being let in. And then you go through a metal detector, at least in the middle and high schools. God, just typing that out is so depressing.

Most schools don’t have metal detectors but they do have everything else listed. None of these things would have helped in this case since they went through the windows. The only thing I think would keep someone off the premises is a high gate and multiple security personnel. Prison like conditions

And then even if you do that what happens if they can shoot through onto the playground when the kids are at recess. What about bus loading/unloading. Field trips.

Sounds like the kids need guns to shoot back...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad Trump chose his 22 year intern to lead domestic terrorism prevention. The shooter had a ton of disturbing posting online and could have been flagged before she gunned down 2 elementary school kids.

Seems like that might be an important area to have some actual competent government professionals, but sadly that's in short supply in this admin.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention

This is so deeply disturbing. Just layers and layers of incompetence.

Or.... allowed to happen for an agenda. "Never dismiss the unthinkable" is a rule in detective work.