King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Are the Crossfield-Carson-Oakton families actually going to want to switch from Oakton to the KAA school? I know a lot of people buy homes in those neighborhoods to attend Oakton.

I think I've seen at least one post on here that hopes to go to KAA. It's probably a mixed bag. But, that commute is brutal. I think most would be happy to go to the new high school.

Yea very true. There is a long association with Oakton with the side of Franklin Farm though. I grew up there and went to Oakton in the 90s. I am pretty sure it’s been the high school for that area since the homes got built.

There wasn't nearly as much traffic back then, PP. You know that.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the Crossfield-Carson-Oakton families actually going to want to switch from Oakton to the KAA school? I know a lot of people buy homes in those neighborhoods to attend Oakton.

I think I've seen at least one post on here that hopes to go to KAA. It's probably a mixed bag. But, that commute is brutal. I think most would be happy to go to the new high school.

Yea very true. There is a long association with Oakton with the side of Franklin Farm though. I grew up there and went to Oakton in the 90s. I am pretty sure it’s been the high school for that area since the homes got built.

There wasn't nearly as much traffic back then, PP. You know that.

While true, I live in FF too and I know a lot of people who would not be happy being moved out of Oakton.

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Yes, there is a tiny portion of Chantilly Highlands that Thru for some crazy reason decided to split off and send to Navy/Oakton - but it's not "a good portion" and I believe they've already talked to the school board and it's definitely not happening. Maybe you're thinking of Emerald Chase that they want to send to Fox Mill? That's SLHS, not Oakton. Either way, if they sent all of Oak Hill to the new HS, the community would likely be happier.

Well, if you call almost 200 homes a "tiny portion" of a neighborhood of almost 1000, I guess you are correct. However, it is a part of the community.
I have not yet seen the reassurance that they will not be split off from the rest of MY neighborhood.

And, I am aware of Emerald Chase situation. Honestly, I think they should be included, but when they are trying to kick part of my neighborhood out of Chantilly, that is my first concern.

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I am the person you are talking about and I LIVE in Franklin Farm and my children GO to Crossfield and Carson. You are misconstruing what I said. I said currently Crossfield is further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from SLHS, and to me, it makes more sense to move one school instead of two (e.g. move Crossfield to the new school instead of moving Fox Mill to the new school AND Crossfield to SLHS). I did NOT say that Crossfield is closer to the new school than Fox Mill, nor did I say that neighborhoods zoned to Crossfield are closer to the new school than Fox Mill Estates is because that is not accurate. I don't like that my kids are going to have to have a really long commute to Oakton. In an ideal world they would go to Chantilly, because that is currently the closest high school to my home, but that's definitely not going to happen, so I'd prefer for them to go to this new high school which is right next door to their middle school and is an easy bus ride.

You have that dead wrong. This is the person I was talking about:

Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.

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Anonymous wrote:KAA will be FCPS’s flagship school, they will move TJ kids there.

It has a pool!

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As for 1, 2, and 4 - thank you, Captain Obvious. 🙄


Hope that explained everything and you understand now. Geez!!!

How about next time you look at the whole cited post instead of just the last line. Hint: you can click on it and see what was posted. And, you really don't need to be snarky. If you had read the part that was hidden from earlier quotes, you would realize that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.

Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.

Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.

Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.

It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.

Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.

It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.

Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.

You sound like you don’t live here or don’t understand that Crossfield is much further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from South Lakes. Why would they disrupt two entire communities to make this change instead of one, dummy?

DP. I DO live in the area and am familiar with all these neighborhoods and all these schools. Sounds like you are not.

1. None of us know how this would end up, but several posters are leaving out some details:
McNair and Coates will likely attend this school
2. All of Floris will likely attend this school. Remember McNair, Coates, and Floris send kids to Westfield. Westfield is isolated from the community neighborhoods by commercial and industrial areas--along with Dulles Airport. The commute is also not an easy one during rush hour. 28 is a nightmare.
3. Oak Hill (which, by the way is the closest elementary school and neighborhood to the Carson/KAA site) currently attends Chantilly. THRU plans to split this neighborhood and send a good portion of it to Oakton. The Oak Hill community is not happy about this. It splits the neighborhood and sends a good portion of it thirty minutes away--going from a short commute to a thirty minute commtute. KAA is basically across the street.
4. Discovery Square--which attends Floris--is also right by the KAA site.
5. PP--who claims that Crossfield is further away than Fox Mill--is stretching the issue because most of Crossfield's attendance zone is just as close to KAA as Fox Mill. If she really were familiar with the area, she would realize that Franklin Farm on the other side of 286 would likely go down Franklin Farm Rd to Centreville. They could turn on Wall or McLearen to get there. They would be driving through neighborhoods that likely will also attend the KAA site.

Again, none of us know how this will play out. I could see Emerald Chase once again going to Oak Hill and Carson and KAA, but I don't know. And, neither do any of us.

I don't see Fox Mill being at the top of the list. But, I may be wrong. South Lakes does not appear to need relief at this time and Fox Mill is equidistant to South Lakes and Carson--though some neighborhoods are closer to Carson. Neither is far.

If I were the School Board, my first goal would be to eliminate the long bus ride to Oakton and the bus ride/isolation to Westfield. Overcrowding at Chantilly has repeatedly been given a priority and I THINK it is very likely Oak Hill will attend KAA.

This creates a contiguous boundary. It eliminates split neighborhoods and split feeder elementary schools.

Fox Mill to new HS: 3.3 miles
Crossfield to new HS: 5.3 miles

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.

Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.

Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.

Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.

It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.

Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.

It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.

Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.

You sound like you don’t live here or don’t understand that Crossfield is much further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from South Lakes. Why would they disrupt two entire communities to make this change instead of one, dummy?

Oh I live here and understand everything very well.

The easiest solution would be to let Fox Mill kids go to the new school and Crossfield stay with Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.

Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.

Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.

Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.

It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.

Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.

It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.

Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.

You sound like you don’t live here or don’t understand that Crossfield is much further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from South Lakes. Why would they disrupt two entire communities to make this change instead of one, dummy?

DP. I DO live in the area and am familiar with all these neighborhoods and all these schools. Sounds like you are not.

1. None of us know how this would end up, but several posters are leaving out some details:
McNair and Coates will likely attend this school
2. All of Floris will likely attend this school. Remember McNair, Coates, and Floris send kids to Westfield. Westfield is isolated from the community neighborhoods by commercial and industrial areas--along with Dulles Airport. The commute is also not an easy one during rush hour. 28 is a nightmare.
3. Oak Hill (which, by the way is the closest elementary school and neighborhood to the Carson/KAA site) currently attends Chantilly. THRU plans to split this neighborhood and send a good portion of it to Oakton. The Oak Hill community is not happy about this. It splits the neighborhood and sends a good portion of it thirty minutes away--going from a short commute to a thirty minute commtute. KAA is basically across the street.
4. Discovery Square--which attends Floris--is also right by the KAA site.
5. PP--who claims that Crossfield is further away than Fox Mill--is stretching the issue because most of Crossfield's attendance zone is just as close to KAA as Fox Mill. If she really were familiar with the area, she would realize that Franklin Farm on the other side of 286 would likely go down Franklin Farm Rd to Centreville. They could turn on Wall or McLearen to get there. They would be driving through neighborhoods that likely will also attend the KAA site.

Again, none of us know how this will play out. I could see Emerald Chase once again going to Oak Hill and Carson and KAA, but I don't know. And, neither do any of us.

I don't see Fox Mill being at the top of the list. But, I may be wrong. South Lakes does not appear to need relief at this time and Fox Mill is equidistant to South Lakes and Carson--though some neighborhoods are closer to Carson. Neither is far.

If I were the School Board, my first goal would be to eliminate the long bus ride to Oakton and the bus ride/isolation to Westfield. Overcrowding at Chantilly has repeatedly been given a priority and I THINK it is very likely Oak Hill will attend KAA.

This creates a contiguous boundary. It eliminates split neighborhoods and split feeder elementary schools.

Fox Mill to new HS: 3.3 miles
Crossfield to new HS: 5.3 miles

You left out that some Crossfield neighborhoods are traveling over 10 miles to Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.

Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.

Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.

Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.

It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.

Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.

It clearly makes sense to send Oak Hill and Crossfield kids there and if necessary keep Fox Mill kids at South Lakes since the priorities should be reducing overcrowding at Chantilly and reducing long commutes to Oakton.

It appears you didn't bother to listen to what the School Board members voting in favor of this purchase had to say. That's what they were focusing on, not changing the SLHS boundaries. It's sad we've invested so much in South Lakes over the years only for people to try and avoid it when it's nearby and not overcrowded.

Oak Hill doesn’t even go to Carson, and the school board is already working on reducing the overload at Chantilly.

Crossfield is closer to SLHS and farther from the new high school compared to Fox Mill. If anything, they should send Crossfield to SLHS instead of Fox Mill. Isn’t that obvious?

You lose all credibility by insisting Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS. I don’t see it happening.

You sound like you don’t live here or don’t understand that Crossfield is much further away from Oakton than Fox Mill is from South Lakes. Why would they disrupt two entire communities to make this change instead of one, dummy?

DP. I DO live in the area and am familiar with all these neighborhoods and all these schools. Sounds like you are not.

1. None of us know how this would end up, but several posters are leaving out some details:
McNair and Coates will likely attend this school
2. All of Floris will likely attend this school. Remember McNair, Coates, and Floris send kids to Westfield. Westfield is isolated from the community neighborhoods by commercial and industrial areas--along with Dulles Airport. The commute is also not an easy one during rush hour. 28 is a nightmare.
3. Oak Hill (which, by the way is the closest elementary school and neighborhood to the Carson/KAA site) currently attends Chantilly. THRU plans to split this neighborhood and send a good portion of it to Oakton. The Oak Hill community is not happy about this. It splits the neighborhood and sends a good portion of it thirty minutes away--going from a short commute to a thirty minute commtute. KAA is basically across the street.
4. Discovery Square--which attends Floris--is also right by the KAA site.
5. PP--who claims that Crossfield is further away than Fox Mill--is stretching the issue because most of Crossfield's attendance zone is just as close to KAA as Fox Mill. If she really were familiar with the area, she would realize that Franklin Farm on the other side of 286 would likely go down Franklin Farm Rd to Centreville. They could turn on Wall or McLearen to get there. They would be driving through neighborhoods that likely will also attend the KAA site.

Again, none of us know how this will play out. I could see Emerald Chase once again going to Oak Hill and Carson and KAA, but I don't know. And, neither do any of us.

I don't see Fox Mill being at the top of the list. But, I may be wrong. South Lakes does not appear to need relief at this time and Fox Mill is equidistant to South Lakes and Carson--though some neighborhoods are closer to Carson. Neither is far.

If I were the School Board, my first goal would be to eliminate the long bus ride to Oakton and the bus ride/isolation to Westfield. Overcrowding at Chantilly has repeatedly been given a priority and I THINK it is very likely Oak Hill will attend KAA.

This creates a contiguous boundary. It eliminates split neighborhoods and split feeder elementary schools.

Fox Mill to new HS: 3.3 miles
Crossfield to new HS: 5.3 miles

You left out that some Crossfield neighborhoods are traveling over 10 miles to Oakton.

Not an issue. Their parents love Oakton.

[Anonymous]

From Fairfax County Times:

Dunne said that the property sale is scheduled to close in August. Because of that scheduled closing date, he said, “We won’t be able to use it for this coming school year; however, we will be using it for other purposes, such as training sessions.” He said that it will open as a high school in the fall of 2026. He said the superintendent will develop and present a project plan to the public.

The fall of 2026 sounds really ambitious but we will see.

[Anonymous]

Anybody else want to put chances of each ES going to the new HS

Floris : 100% (Literally in Floris district lines)
Oak Hill : 95% (Very Small chance staying Chantilly with overcrowding there)
McNair : 90% (Small chance of staying Westfield or going to Herndon)
Coates : 85% (Small chance of staying Westfield or going to Herndon)
Crossfield : (75%)
Fox Mill : (65%)

Honestly both Crossfield and Fox Mill could go to South Lakes instead of the new HS and petty equidistant from those two options. However, it is easier to backfill Oakton with growth in Tysons. Hence higher chance of Crossfield being moved. Also Meren represents all of Fox Mill but only a fraction of Crossfield hence, the only option she has to protect South Lakes it to retain Fox Mill.

[Anonymous]

Fox Mill to new HS: 3.3 miles
Crossfield to new HS: 5.3 miles

You do realize that the kids who go to Oakton from Crossfield do not live at Crossfield Elementary School?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.

Nice spin.

You are the one making a claim that Fox Mill should stay in SLHS. I am just pointing out that’s very unlikely. Hopefully, you are not too dumb to understand this.

How close are the middle schools you listed to the nearest high school? Do you know the distance between Carson Middle School and the new high school?

It is 0.5 miles.

Given that South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, and the distance from Fox Mill to South Lakes is much shorter than the distance from Crossfield to Oakton, it's quite likely. Sorry.

Here you go.

So the bottomline is you just don’t want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school.

Wait and see.

It's not that I don't want Fox Mill to be assigned to the new school. It's that making sure Oak Hill goes there to address overcrowding at Chantilly and Crossfield goes there to shorten the long commute to Oakton should be higher priorities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to get assurances now that everyone currently at Carson will go there. That is simply premature.

Again, I'm sorry you dislike South Lakes so much.

Don't be ridiculous.

When did I say I dislike SLHS? I personally like the IB program at SLHS.

But, it makes far more sense for current Carson kids to attend the new school than your absurd idea.

Look at the map. Why should Oak Hill and Crossfield kids go to the new school while Fox Mill kids stay at SLHS? Do you really think that makes sense?

Stop being sorry and get some common sense.

Sweetie, Crossfield kids GO TO CARSON.

Umm… didn’t I say Crossfield kids don’t go to Carson? My post was in response to a previous poster who claimed Crossfield kids should attend the new school while Fox Mill kids should stay.

[Anonymous]

Having seen this before. None of us will be making the decision.

Talk to your School Board member.