RTO and No Childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

This is the most intelligent post on this site. So much hatred coming from those who don’t want anyone to enjoy improvements that were denied them.

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Anonymous wrote:Lest you think this is all about federal workers, I have a friend with three children who does not pay for childcare for any of them, including the toddler, because she works from home AND SHE'S NOT A GOVERMENT WORKER. No day care, no extended day, no summer camps, no day off camps. She thinks all of those are "a rip off." I have no idea how she gets away with all of this at work. How does she get anything done? It would never fly in my office, which is a government office. I get so tired of hearing people complain about the government workers not having childcare when it's far from unique to government.

Wow. If you don’t understand the difference between what a private company can and can’t do and what the federal government should and shouldn’t do please get off my payroll.

It is not ethical for any worker collecting a FT paycheck to not have FT childcare for their ES-age children. My comments were not specific to Feds. It’s only after last week that the Board is full of Fed parents panicking about what to do with their children after school, which should be a non-issue from 8-6 if you are currently a FT worker. This issue is not specific to WFH Fed parents. Many WFH parents are also double dipping.

You still don’t understand that making parent come in removes 2 hours from their days and requires 2 extra hours of childcare.

Which is why I specifically said that the hours between 8-6 should be a non-issue for any parent who is currently working from home. I am responding specifically to all of the parents who are complaining about summer and what to do after the bus drops their kid off at 3:30. They should already have that covered if they are truly working FT from home. Obviously long commutes, which will now take a parent outside of the normal hours of 8-6 daycare/aftercare coverage are another issue entirely.

Parents have been working at home 7-3:30. Most agencies have core hours and flexible start stop. I work at home from 7:30 to 4 and have a middle schooler. I don’t feel comfortable leaving them alone in the AM, and after school homework help ends at four. They’ll come home to an empty house every day, instead of a parent. It sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Lest you think this is all about federal workers, I have a friend with three children who does not pay for childcare for any of them, including the toddler, because she works from home AND SHE'S NOT A GOVERMENT WORKER. No day care, no extended day, no summer camps, no day off camps. She thinks all of those are "a rip off." I have no idea how she gets away with all of this at work. How does she get anything done? It would never fly in my office, which is a government office. I get so tired of hearing people complain about the government workers not having childcare when it's far from unique to government.

Wow. If you don’t understand the difference between what a private company can and can’t do and what the federal government should and shouldn’t do please get off my payroll.

It is not ethical for any worker collecting a FT paycheck to not have FT childcare for their ES-age children. My comments were not specific to Feds. It’s only after last week that the Board is full of Fed parents panicking about what to do with their children after school, which should be a non-issue from 8-6 if you are currently a FT worker. This issue is not specific to WFH Fed parents. Many WFH parents are also double dipping.

Why 8-6?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

This is the most intelligent post on this site. So much hatred coming from those who don’t want anyone to enjoy improvements that were denied them.

No hatred. But frankly, all the handwringing on this site is not a great testament to the problem-solving skills of Federal workers!

I sense a lot of entitlement too. But a dose of reality will soon cure that.

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Anonymous wrote:Lest you think this is all about federal workers, I have a friend with three children who does not pay for childcare for any of them, including the toddler, because she works from home AND SHE'S NOT A GOVERMENT WORKER. No day care, no extended day, no summer camps, no day off camps. She thinks all of those are "a rip off." I have no idea how she gets away with all of this at work. How does she get anything done? It would never fly in my office, which is a government office. I get so tired of hearing people complain about the government workers not having childcare when it's far from unique to government.

Wow. If you don’t understand the difference between what a private company can and can’t do and what the federal government should and shouldn’t do please get off my payroll.

It is not ethical for any worker collecting a FT paycheck to not have FT childcare for their ES-age children. My comments were not specific to Feds. It’s only after last week that the Board is full of Fed parents panicking about what to do with their children after school, which should be a non-issue from 8-6 if you are currently a FT worker. This issue is not specific to WFH Fed parents. Many WFH parents are also double dipping.

You still don’t understand that making parent come in removes 2 hours from their days and requires 2 extra hours of childcare.

Which is why I specifically said that the hours between 8-6 should be a non-issue for any parent who is currently working from home. I am responding specifically to all of the parents who are complaining about summer and what to do after the bus drops their kid off at 3:30. They should already have that covered if they are truly working FT from home. Obviously long commutes, which will now take a parent outside of the normal hours of 8-6 daycare/aftercare coverage are another issue entirely.

Parents have been working at home 7-3:30. Most agencies have core hours and flexible start stop. I work at home from 7:30 to 4 and have a middle schooler. I don’t feel comfortable leaving them alone in the AM, and after school homework help ends at four. They’ll come home to an empty house every day, instead of a parent. It sucks.

Gee, I wonder what parents of middle schoolers do if they can’t log off at 4pm.

[Anonymous]

Entitlement? Entitlement is living in the USA and thinking you don’t need to pay people for work they are doing that benefits you.

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Anonymous wrote:Lest you think this is all about federal workers, I have a friend with three children who does not pay for childcare for any of them, including the toddler, because she works from home AND SHE'S NOT A GOVERMENT WORKER. No day care, no extended day, no summer camps, no day off camps. She thinks all of those are "a rip off." I have no idea how she gets away with all of this at work. How does she get anything done? It would never fly in my office, which is a government office. I get so tired of hearing people complain about the government workers not having childcare when it's far from unique to government.

Wow. If you don’t understand the difference between what a private company can and can’t do and what the federal government should and shouldn’t do please get off my payroll.

It is not ethical for any worker collecting a FT paycheck to not have FT childcare for their ES-age children. My comments were not specific to Feds. It’s only after last week that the Board is full of Fed parents panicking about what to do with their children after school, which should be a non-issue from 8-6 if you are currently a FT worker. This issue is not specific to WFH Fed parents. Many WFH parents are also double dipping.

You still don’t understand that making parent come in removes 2 hours from their days and requires 2 extra hours of childcare.

Which is why I specifically said that the hours between 8-6 should be a non-issue for any parent who is currently working from home. I am responding specifically to all of the parents who are complaining about summer and what to do after the bus drops their kid off at 3:30. They should already have that covered if they are truly working FT from home. Obviously long commutes, which will now take a parent outside of the normal hours of 8-6 daycare/aftercare coverage are another issue entirely.

Parents have been working at home 7-3:30. Most agencies have core hours and flexible start stop. I work at home from 7:30 to 4 and have a middle schooler. I don’t feel comfortable leaving them alone in the AM, and after school homework help ends at four. They’ll come home to an empty house every day, instead of a parent. It sucks.

Gee, I wonder what parents of middle schoolers do if they can’t log off at 4pm.

Are you stupid or something?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

You aren’t bright are you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

I work 7 miles from my job, and it takes me an hour to get there. That’s a two hour commute each day. Are you in some rural area?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

I work 7 miles from my job, and it takes me an hour to get there. That’s a two hour commute each day. Are you in some rural area?

DP but woof. You said you work a couple hours from your daycare, now it’s just one hour, and there’s no reason you couldn’t get daycare close to your work instead of your home.

They’re not sending us taxpayers their best and brightest, folks

[Anonymous]

Pre Covid in 2019 the single mom next to me just enrolled kid in day care next to office. She lived Virginia and worked in Bethesda.

No rushing to pick up or drop off kid sometimes she eat lunch with kid and if work late bring kid to office

[Anonymous]

My old town was blue collar. So we had female nurses, female cops, female paramedics etc who work shifts. Daycare was open 24/7.

My daughters a nurse and she works all shifts so there are 24/7 daycare.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

I work 7 miles from my job, and it takes me an hour to get there. That’s a two hour commute each day. Are you in some rural area?

Just run or bike to work at that point. When I just started out to finance I would run to work everyday (college runner) to keep fit. 7 miles in an hour is a serious waste.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember hustling pick up and drop off logistics with DH during our kids early years. Both of us had inflexible jobs. Very stressful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

We are supposed to evolve. Just because I did it 15 years ago doesn’t mean today’s generation should have to as well. Why are Americans so infatuated with punishment?

Once again, no one is. It’s the whining and the hysterics of it all.

If we could wave our magic wand, we’d keep at least regular telework, if not full telework. But it’s not happening and a lot of people here are saying it’s impossible to figure out childcare. That their lives are being turned upside down. It’s perspective that is missing.

My kids were in full time daycare, and then before and after care, and yeah it’s expensive. And there are wait lists. BTDT. The hours with a commute are tough too, so I found a daycare that was closer to my office so we could manage the daycare’s hours. I have a long commute and getting my toddler out of bed at 6:30am was hard.

We staggered our tours of duty, we used a lot of leave, we hired high schooler to shuttle one kid to her sport when we weren’t home in time to get her there. We had zero telework then.

I don’t begrudge anyone who doesn’t have to do that. But reality is this is what’s happening now.

Some of us don’t even know where our office will be so it’s hard to pick a daycare that aligns with commute. Not to mention people normally get on daycare waitlists while they’re still pregnant.

You can keep them in their current daycare for the time being. Are they not in daycare?

If your new office is a couple of hours from your day care, which it easily can be, that's not going to work because it's not going to cover enough hours.

Do you normally have these types of problems understanding basic things?

A couple of hours?!?! Then you move. No one sane commutes a couple of hours every single day, you look for housing (and child care) closer to your work.

I work 7 miles from my job, and it takes me an hour to get there. That’s a two hour commute each day. Are you in some rural area?

DP but woof. You said you work a couple hours from your daycare, now it’s just one hour, and there’s no reason you couldn’t get daycare close to your work instead of your home.

They’re not sending us taxpayers their best and brightest, folks

I am a DP.