Does where you go to college actually matter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s an example. I have several friends who were smart and went to W&M or UVA but majored in education and became teachers. Had they gone to Longwood instead that wouldn’t have changed a thing for their job. But UVA majorly changed their selection of spouse. And all three of them married high earners and none of the wives work any longer.

This is disgusting. This is everything I don’t want for my daughter.

I'm 50 this year - graduated college in 1994. The MRS degree was alive and well then. It surprised me, but out of the half-dozen girlfriends I am in fairly close touch with, only one works full-time other than me.

WTH? I am same age and never saw women trying to get a mrs degree. You must be in the liberal arts or something similar. This was not the 1950s.

[Anonymous]

No. Not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Law school or politics ..yes. Otherwise..no.

Great, I'll send my community college resume out for an analyst position at Morgan Stanley then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Not at all.

Maybe not Duke vs. Harvard or UVA vs. Duke, but you're saying it doesn't matter if you go to Harvard or Longwood? For real?

Longwood Average Salary After 10 Years
$43,200

Harvard Average Salary After 10 Years
$136,700

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s an example. I have several friends who were smart and went to W&M or UVA but majored in education and became teachers. Had they gone to Longwood instead that wouldn’t have changed a thing for their job. But UVA majorly changed their selection of spouse. And all three of them married high earners and none of the wives work any longer.

This is disgusting. This is everything I don’t want for my daughter.

I'm 50 this year - graduated college in 1994. The MRS degree was alive and well then. It surprised me, but out of the half-dozen girlfriends I am in fairly close touch with, only one works full-time other than me.

This was true in 1994, less true in 2004 and even less in 2014. 2024 have the tables turned and now men go for their Mr. degree?

Men have always looked for pedigree in college too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will take this to the grave: K-12, especially 9-12, education matters 1000x more than which college you attend. ex.

Sidwell + UMich > public lifer + Ivy

Georgetown Prep + Villanova > public lifer + UChicago

Boarding school + UVA > public lifer + Duke

I've seen dozens of kids squander "elite" college because their crummy public school made them a fish out of water. And I've seen polished private school kids come out of public flagships and set the world on fire.

The douchebaggery lives … at least until we burn down the country clubs and get heads on pikes!

I'm in. Where do we meet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s an example. I have several friends who were smart and went to W&M or UVA but majored in education and became teachers. Had they gone to Longwood instead that wouldn’t have changed a thing for their job. But UVA majorly changed their selection of spouse. And all three of them married high earners and none of the wives work any longer.

This is disgusting. This is everything I don’t want for my daughter.

You don't want your daughter to teach as a profession?
You don't want your daughter to marry an intelligent and successful person?
You don't want your daughter to have the option to stay home with her babies if that is what pulls at her heart when she first holds your grandchild?
You don't want your daughter and son/daughter-in-law to make enough money that they have the option to have one SAH or the option to retire early?

How odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes yes and sometimes no

Got into a top Ivy for grad school but earlier on was dinged for a job as the boss opted for a top NESCAC grad rather than risk an assistant job on a "no name" college grad (who had two years' direct experience in region where job had oversight). The boss wasn't discreet about her reasoning. Another program scooped me up and I later learned about the "no name" comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Law school or politics ..yes. Otherwise..no.

Great, I'll send my community college resume out for an analyst position at Morgan Stanley then.

No one is applying to these jobs straight from community college without transferring, but you knew that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s an example. I have several friends who were smart and went to W&M or UVA but majored in education and became teachers. Had they gone to Longwood instead that wouldn’t have changed a thing for their job. But UVA majorly changed their selection of spouse. And all three of them married high earners and none of the wives work any longer.

This is disgusting. This is everything I don’t want for my daughter.

You don't want your daughter to teach as a profession?
You don't want your daughter to marry an intelligent and successful person?
You don't want your daughter to have the option to stay home with her babies if that is what pulls at her heart when she first holds your grandchild?
You don't want your daughter and son/daughter-in-law to make enough money that they have the option to have one SAH or the option to retire early?

How odd.

Just because you go to UVA doesn’t mean you’ll make more money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Not at all.

Maybe not Duke vs. Harvard or UVA vs. Duke, but you're saying it doesn't matter if you go to Harvard or Longwood? For real?

Longwood Average Salary After 10 Years
$43,200

Harvard Average Salary After 10 Years
$136,700

Who’s choosing between Harvard and Longwood? Serious question. If you can get into Harvard, you can get into a lot of schools that aren’t Harvard but that are “better” than Longwood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NO.

Unless -

1. You wanted to specifically be with a certain organization in the legal, medical or academic profession where the name of your education is paramount
2. You wanted to start in management v. work your way up in which case you go get your MBA from a top B school
3. You wanted to specifically open up networking opportunities at a school - ie you wanted specifically to work for a company that you know does college recruiting out of that school
4. You want to work within corporate finance or CIA/Foreign Service/public sector organization that college recruits specifically from a list of preferred top schools

Otherwise it does not matter where you go to college, from a community college to a college that nobody's heard of -

1. You can absolutely work your way to the top in almost any field.
2. You can absolutely be happy and successful in any industry.
3. You can absolutely earn a TON of money by being successful in your industry. Better yet, own your own business and hire people out of the college you want!
4. You can absolutely be a smart, good or educated person and even all three to boot!

- Signed, a VP of Talent Acquisition, with 20+ years of experience hiring in tech, finance and sales/marketing industries for corporate F100 global and national companies. I have recruited both Harvard MBA morons who despite whatever title they had will always be moron and can't write a resume, and highly motivated, street smart and hard worker community college grads who became C level executives

Interesting post. Know someone casually in talent acquisition. Would not look at any resume for a student who did not attend a top 50 school for undergrad. And her DD understood she had to go to a top 20. Didn't work out as college admissions can be a bit of a crap shoot these days. Kid ended up in a top 75. The mom hasn't said if that has changed her POV on hiring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm from the midwest and we would find if odd if a person lived here and went to an Ivy league school. Funny even. We all went to state schools, got jobs and no one cares.

But that's only if you want to stay in the Midwest. Plus the Ivy Leaguers generally don't come back, they stay on the East Coast.

Save Pete, who married Chas, another M/westerner

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look at J.D. Vance. He went to Yale Law and now he’s out there telling the good people of Ohio that parents should have their vote multiplied by the number of children they have. Shameful, moronic pandering.

Agreed. I don’t know what happened to him—marine, graduated college in 23 months with a GPA high enough for Yale Law, etc.

I don’t know either. But clearly Yale Law School does a pretty poor job of instilling honor, intelligence, honesty and shame in its graduates.

Right?? Harvard should be feeling similarly after Stefanik's latest antics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not at all.

Maybe not Duke vs. Harvard or UVA vs. Duke, but you're saying it doesn't matter if you go to Harvard or Longwood? For real?

Longwood Average Salary After 10 Years
$43,200

Harvard Average Salary After 10 Years
$136,700

Who’s choosing between Harvard and Longwood? Serious question. If you can get into Harvard, you can get into a lot of schools that aren’t Harvard but that are “better” than Longwood.

So it does matter, within bands at least.