Why is testing not part of the reopening plan?

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

Different teacher here. You know the testers are there because they block off part of the building for the testing. So saying it isn’t anyone in his/her class doesn’t mean they don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

I don't know what you're talking about. DCPS lived up to its most basic and fundamental promise, which was to allow schools to reopen to the maximum extent possible last year. We had minimal covid at our school, and as many kids in school as possible with staffing issues - probably at least 2/3 of the student body. This fixation on specifics is really just throwing sand for current union negotiations. Of course I would hope that if DCPS things that surveillance screening is important, they will do it. But I'm not getting worked up over a single suspect anecdote.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

DP. Mostly I think DCPS doesn't have its sh*t together, like they didn't in the Spring of 2021. They eventually did test, it just took them a while to start. People complained about it here. I'm not sure it accomplished much. Did they find any true positives from their random testing? How many? Did they prevent any spread?

I know that classes were occasionally shut down due to a positive test, but I don't know if that testing was the result of DCPS's testing protocols.

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Anonymous wrote:If the city could manage false positives better, then I would opt in to testing. But this spring showed us that it can’t. So nope, they won’t be testing my kid again.

what happened with the false positive? a long time out of school?

Good question. Can’t you just test again?

LOL no. You are out of school for two weeks full stop. It doesn't matter if you test again and it is negative.

Original false positive PP here. Correct - a false positive is treated as a positive even if subsequent tests are negative. 2 weeks out of school and all the cancellation of activities for not only my kid, but everyone else's who shares the activity or class. Plus, then you get the health department calling you every day because a false positive doesn't matter to them either- they count it as covid and then want to know everyone you are in contact with.

Our school had a cluster of false positives this spring (a bunch of kids in different grades and classes all came back positive - every single one got a second pcr test that same day and were negative) and they had to essentially shut the school. Nope, no thanks. If DC can't be nuanced about its protocols or policies, then I am not participating.

I also think the travel policy suffers from the same problem.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

Because it costs money which could be better used for anything else, and has no material impact.

If someone promises to do something stupid and then they change their mind, I'm not going to be all mad that they're not doing the stupid thing.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

DP. Mostly I think DCPS doesn't have its sh*t together, like they didn't in the Spring of 2021. They eventually did test, it just took them a while to start. People complained about it here. I'm not sure it accomplished much. Did they find any true positives from their random testing? How many? Did they prevent any spread?

I know that classes were occasionally shut down due to a positive test, but I don't know if that testing was the result of DCPS's testing protocols.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:If the city could manage false positives better, then I would opt in to testing. But this spring showed us that it can’t. So nope, they won’t be testing my kid again.

what happened with the false positive? a long time out of school?

Good question. Can’t you just test again?

LOL no. You are out of school for two weeks full stop. It doesn't matter if you test again and it is negative.

Original false positive PP here. Correct - a false positive is treated as a positive even if subsequent tests are negative. 2 weeks out of school and all the cancellation of activities for not only my kid, but everyone else's who shares the activity or class. Plus, then you get the health department calling you every day because a false positive doesn't matter to them either- they count it as covid and then want to know everyone you are in contact with.

Our school had a cluster of false positives this spring (a bunch of kids in different grades and classes all came back positive - every single one got a second pcr test that same day and were negative) and they had to essentially shut the school. Nope, no thanks. If DC can't be nuanced about its protocols or policies, then I am not participating.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

Because it costs money which could be better used for anything else, and has no material impact.

If someone promises to do something stupid and then they change their mind, I'm not going to be all mad that they're not doing the stupid thing.

https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

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https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

Is that supposed to be an argument for testing?

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https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

Is that supposed to be an argument for testing?

LOL "DCPS wastes money, which is bad, so it should waste more, which is good."

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Anonymous wrote:DP. but perhaps a more useful study showing that when prevalence rates are low you can get a large number of false positives even with relatively precise tests.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

Because it costs money which could be better used for anything else, and has no material impact.

If someone promises to do something stupid and then they change their mind, I'm not going to be all mad that they're not doing the stupid thing.

https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

Your argument is that they wasted money so they should waste more money? That is not the lesson I would take from this, but you do you.

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https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

Is that supposed to be an argument for testing?

LOL "DCPS wastes money, which is bad, so it should waste more, which is good."

+1 lol

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https://asm.org/Articles/2020/November/SARS-CoV-2-Testing-Sensitivity-Is-Not-the-Whole-St

This. This is why universal asymptomatic testing in our schools probably does more harm than good, especially if every “positive” entails a two week quarantine.

yep. I’m thinking about opting out now.

Opting out of what? There is no plan for asymptomatic testing this year. DCPS isn't going to care about covid until your kids schools start to get it anyway. If kids or adults east of the river are getting sick, it's not going to matter, be sure that is how DC politics work.

Just because the plan hasn’t been announced doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’m assuming that it’s likely DCPS will do the surveillance asymptomatic testing like they did last year, plus rapid tests for symptoms that show up in school. If they do pooled testing where any positives are retested, I would probably be ok with that.

And the whole “DCPS has no plaaaannn!!” thing is 100% part of the WTU playbook during negotiations (which are currently ongoing.) I’m not falling for it. DCPS has shown to me it’s managing covid well. Yes there are things I would like to see improved but I have no overall concerns and feel confident in them.

Glad that you feel so confident from the outside. I'm at a DCPS summer program that started 7/5 and still hasn't conducted any asymptomatic testing, despite it being promised weekly

Yikes.

I wonder how PP is even aware of this. it’s just 10% and a random sample so her kid wouldn’t be tested at all most likely.

I assume it’s a teacher.

Correct assumption

it’s a random selection of 10% of kids - she might not have any kids selected from her class. Anyway, it’s surveillance testing, not screening testing. so it’s not really something to get fixated on IMO.

You can keep trying to explain it away. I am 100% sure that no testing has been done. It's not even about the lack of the testing, its just another example of DCPS communicating something to placate families, which gives them "full confidence in DCPS", while fulfilling none of their actual promises on the individual school level

Okay, but are the kids symptomatic? Is there a significant number of symptomatic cases in the adults at the school? If it's having no impact, then the surveillance testing is really just a waste of time. If the assumption is that fully asymptomatic cases are somehow running rampant throughout the community without any effects, then I could not care less (because also...lol, that's probably not what is happening).

There are infections! Many! You just can't see them! I also have a girlfriend in Canada who you can't meet!

Why do you think it's okay that DCPS is saying one thing and doing something different. This is why teachers get so frustrated with the district.

Because it costs money which could be better used for anything else, and has no material impact.

If someone promises to do something stupid and then they change their mind, I'm not going to be all mad that they're not doing the stupid thing.

https://dcauditor.org/report/dcps-failed-to-effectively-monitor-title-i-contract/


Like this great use of DCPS funds? DCPS wastes money all over. They can waste it with testing too

i'm not even going to click on the link, because this is the most pathetic kind of whataboutism