In DC: "White Parents Horrified by George Floyd Video Still Go to Great Lengths..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the parents at low performing schools just cared more, those schools would improve. How about encouraging that? Instead, this just sounds like another rehash of "white man's burden". Seriously, woke people, this has been done, and that’s where this road will lead you.

This is not true putting the burden on families is not understanding the problem. Systematically over generations schools with children of color have lacked resources. My grandparents and parents received a subpar education. Then add in the implicit bias that teachers have against children of color this starts in PreK they have studies about this. Society has low expectations of children of color. As a POC I have to constantly monitor the way teachers treat my children and ensure that they don’t assume that education is not a priority for us. White families do not experience this and in fact if you put your child in what you call a low performing school changes are they will be challenged and benefit for stereotypes association with Whitt families valuing education.

many of the worst schools are newly renovated and have some of the highest per pupil funding in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and try to create a “PTO tax” and see how that works out. DC Council flirted with the idea of taking PTO funds from NW schools and giving them to poor schools. Parents made it clear their funding of the PTO would stop immediately and contributions a would be in-kind instead. Parents who are already paying their fair share in taxes expect the money they spend to benefit their own children to do just that. Not to be used for a Robinhood effort.

The problem with this argument is that many, many school districts prohibit this kind of fundraising by individual PTOs. Having one school raise 100k while another does not even have a PTO is clearly an issue. A redistribution of a portion of funds would make good sense. Or a program with a partner school to build long-term bonds.

start redistributing funds, and you'll see charities not associated with PTO's (but with the same members) springing up to provide support to schools. Do you really think that the better funded PTOs would have trouble setting up a 501(c) not affiliated or overseen by PTA/DCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and try to create a “PTO tax” and see how that works out. DC Council flirted with the idea of taking PTO funds from NW schools and giving them to poor schools. Parents made it clear their funding of the PTO would stop immediately and contributions a would be in-kind instead. Parents who are already paying their fair share in taxes expect the money they spend to benefit their own children to do just that. Not to be used for a Robinhood effort.

The problem with this argument is that many, many school districts prohibit this kind of fundraising by individual PTOs. Having one school raise 100k while another does not even have a PTO is clearly an issue. A redistribution of a portion of funds would make good sense. Or a program with a partner school to build long-term bonds.

PTO fundraising is not the issue. I get why it appears unfair but banning it or taxing it is not going to fix things.

[Anonymous]

Another ridiculous brick in the wall of normalizing the abnormal and absurd.

[Anonymous]

DCPS doesn’t need more money - it needs better educational leaders, a weakened Union and a proper budgetary system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So let's see

Ad hominem against critical author CHECK
Racism discussion ensues CHECK
Defending housing segregation CHECK
Supporting educational separation CHECK
Insinuations about testing and criminality CHECK
Saying white people can't win CHECK

Sigh

Stop the ride. I want to get off. America has lost its collective mind.

Also, wanting my child to go to a school with, gasp, a chance that she will learn math, is not racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd say the dude who wrote this piece is a bit off his rocker, select quote:

"If you are a white person who moved to a “nice,” mostly white, upper-middle class town or neighborhood “for the schools” (full of mostly white, upper-middle class children), for instance, you are following a well-trodden — but privileged — path."

So, I take it Mr. Noblesse thinks the moral thing for a rich white person to do is to move her family to a particularly terrible school district so the kids can sink or swim there. I mean, who in the world does that. It's like choosing to buy a bag of cheetos when you're really hungry and can easily afford to buy a nice meal.

The one thing I do agree with Mr. Noblesse is that we should build more affordable housing. But that statement of truth doesn't save the cracked reasoning in the rest of the piece.

Plenty of parents from minority backgrounds, who can afford it or who otherwise get the grants, send their children to these privileged schools, too. What is wrong with that ? The real answer is to make all of these schools excellent for all of our children. Period.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I mean to make all of our schools excellent, wherever they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

[Anonymous]

My guess is the people on their high horses have never set foot in a school in SE across the river, much less talked to any of the parents there.

I have, as I used to work for a non-profit that helps parents in Anacostia advocate for their kids. The number one question we got from the parents was, “How do I get my kid into a charter school?”

None of those parents wanted to have their kids in those schools, and anyone who could get their kid out did so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The "resources" being "hoarded" in some wards vs. others aren't things the state can fix: parental investment in children, commitment to education, a culture that promotes learning and self discipline and delayed gratification. NONE of these things are race based or even class-based (plenty of first-generation immigrant families send their kids to top-tier competitive schools in this country; plenty of families in economically challenged areas are committed to their kids' education). Some parents prioritize education and other don't. It is not the responsibility of the state or the responsibility of parents who do make this commitment to compromise for those families who don't care. It might sound harsh to say so but as someone whose kids have been told constantly by DCPS that they are oppressors and privileged and their achievements called into question because of the accident of their birth (even as they are being raised by a single mom who did NOT grow up privileged): F that. The more this school system sows racial discord in the name of "equity," the more it will deserve the whirlwind it reaps.

Where does your child go to school that they were told they were oppressors and privileged? My kids went to a predominately AA school and were never told this. In fact, the other parents shared my outlook on parenting and education. I seriously doubt you have a kid in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The "resources" being "hoarded" in some wards vs. others aren't things the state can fix: parental investment in children, commitment to education, a culture that promotes learning and self discipline and delayed gratification. NONE of these things are race based or even class-based (plenty of first-generation immigrant families send their kids to top-tier competitive schools in this country; plenty of families in economically challenged areas are committed to their kids' education). Some parents prioritize education and other don't. It is not the responsibility of the state or the responsibility of parents who do make this commitment to compromise for those families who don't care. It might sound harsh to say so but as someone whose kids have been told constantly by DCPS that they are oppressors and privileged and their achievements called into question because of the accident of their birth (even as they are being raised by a single mom who did NOT grow up privileged): F that. The more this school system sows racial discord in the name of "equity," the more it will deserve the whirlwind it reaps.

Where does your child go to school that they were told they were oppressors and privileged? My kids went to a predominately AA school and were never told this. In fact, the other parents shared my outlook on parenting and education. I seriously doubt you have a kid in DCPS.

dp: A number of NW schools take the line PP describes. Wilson is an example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear:

Wilson HS- 39% white (Racist)

Washington Latin- 35% white (Not Racist)
https://latinpcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-10-29-Washington-Latin-PCS-%E2%80%93-Upper-School-HS-PMF.pdf

BASIS DC- 45% white (Not Racist)
https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/138

Makes total sense to me.

You can’t be that dumb. What is the difference between Wilson and the other two schools? Could it be that they’re charters and charters are lottery? Wilson is by property rights. Lottery for all HS would make Wilson in the same category as charters. (Not endorsing just pointing it out.)

I don’t get a meaningful distinction. Different methods of entry, so people get there by different routes. One relies on some luck, and one requires restricting your housing search by geography (and probably settling for much smaller housing).

I don’t see some big moral difference.

Ahh it’s too obvious and you don’t want to see it. I got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The "resources" being "hoarded" in some wards vs. others aren't things the state can fix: parental investment in children, commitment to education, a culture that promotes learning and self discipline and delayed gratification. NONE of these things are race based or even class-based (plenty of first-generation immigrant families send their kids to top-tier competitive schools in this country; plenty of families in economically challenged areas are committed to their kids' education). Some parents prioritize education and other don't. It is not the responsibility of the state or the responsibility of parents who do make this commitment to compromise for those families who don't care. It might sound harsh to say so but as someone whose kids have been told constantly by DCPS that they are oppressors and privileged and their achievements called into question because of the accident of their birth (even as they are being raised by a single mom who did NOT grow up privileged): F that. The more this school system sows racial discord in the name of "equity," the more it will deserve the whirlwind it reaps.

Where does your child go to school that they were told they were oppressors and privileged? My kids went to a predominately AA school and were never told this. In fact, the other parents shared my outlook on parenting and education. I seriously doubt you have a kid in DCPS.

dp: A number of NW schools take the line PP describes. Wilson is an example.

I have kids at Deal and haven’t heard anything from folks at Deal or other parents with older kids at Wilson but ok.