APS: It's too hard to go back 5 days/week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can some explain how to make 3ft rule into 5 day school?

You get all 22 kids in class K-2. I guess you can spread 3 ft in every classroom?

But they need 6 ft when they eat lunch. So you are saying they all eat outside, on the ground, in all weather?

Is there anything I’m missing?

Buses you say, just run like normal school, masks and windows will do it (again in all weather?)

3 ft spacing won’t allow 22 kids in most rooms

I'm sorry, but kids are not sitting closer than 3 feet in classrooms.. they are not on each others laps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can some explain how to make 3ft rule into 5 day school?

You get all 22 kids in class K-2. I guess you can spread 3 ft in every classroom?

But they need 6 ft when they eat lunch. So you are saying they all eat outside, on the ground, in all weather?

Is there anything I’m missing?

Buses you say, just run like normal school, masks and windows will do it (again in all weather?)

3 ft spacing won’t allow 22 kids in most rooms

I'm sorry, but kids are not sitting closer than 3 feet in classrooms.. they are not on each others laps.

VA guidelines for K-1 is a 975 sq ft classroom

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/facility_construction/school_construction/regs_guidelines/guidelines.pdf

3ft distance means 3ft left, right, front, which defines a 36 ft^2 space per pupil

22 kids need 792 sq ft. So you have 150 SQ ft for teacher, bathroom, sinks, counters, etc.

Assuming all old rooms meet guidelines. 2nd grade guides say 800 sq ft

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can some explain how to make 3ft rule into 5 day school?

You get all 22 kids in class K-2. I guess you can spread 3 ft in every classroom?

But they need 6 ft when they eat lunch. So you are saying they all eat outside, on the ground, in all weather?

Is there anything I’m missing?

Buses you say, just run like normal school, masks and windows will do it (again in all weather?)

3 ft spacing won’t allow 22 kids in most rooms

I'm sorry, but kids are not sitting closer than 3 feet in classrooms.. they are not on each others laps.

VA guidelines for K-1 is a 975 sq ft classroom

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/facility_construction/school_construction/regs_guidelines/guidelines.pdf

3ft distance means 3ft left, right, front, which defines a 36 ft^2 space per pupil

22 kids need 792 sq ft. So you have 150 SQ ft for teacher, bathroom, sinks, counters, etc.

Assuming all old rooms meet guidelines. 2nd grade guides say 800 sq ft

I think your math may be off, as you're double counting the 3-feet (e.g., if I'm three feet to your left, you don't need to also count three feet from you to get three feet between us. So really, kids need to each sit in the center of a 9 sq ft box to be appropriately distanced. Since 9 times 25 is just 225 sq ft, it would be easy to accommodate students with three feet of distancing (indeed, with desks and aisles, it probably isn't that different from how classrooms normally look).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Hello genius, you still need a plan for rainy days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Hello genius, you still need a plan for rainy days.

Half the class on the classroom, half the class sitting on the floor in the hallways. Not ideal, but we are in a pandemic and the kids need an education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Same here but there has to be a workable backup plan in case of inclement weather. It doesn't matter if it's sunny all the way through June, schools have to show their backup plan.

[Anonymous]

Inside … outside. Hybrid … virtual. No matter what side you debate I think everyone can agree that APS has done a horrific job. I gave them a pass last spring. I gave them a VERY reluctant pass this fall. But now even our principal is writing in the weekly newsletter "As we wrap up the school year, …"

It is March for crying out loud. They don't even pretend that that want to educate our children. Top to bottom, it is REALLY bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Hello genius, you still need a plan for rainy days.

Do you think it only rains in Arlington? For goodness sake - get over this. They will eat outside whenever possible, otherwise they will need to eat inside at their desks (there are dividers up), in the library, in the gym, in the damn hallway.. if this isn't OK then keep your kid virtual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Inside … outside. Hybrid … virtual. No matter what side you debate I think everyone can agree that APS has done a horrific job. I gave them a pass last spring. I gave them a VERY reluctant pass this fall. But now even our principal is writing in the weekly newsletter "As we wrap up the school year, …"

It is March for crying out loud. They don't even pretend that that want to educate our children. Top to bottom, it is REALLY bad.

can we get Duran fired somehow for complete mismanagement throughout the pandemic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Inside … outside. Hybrid … virtual. No matter what side you debate I think everyone can agree that APS has done a horrific job. I gave them a pass last spring. I gave them a VERY reluctant pass this fall. But now even our principal is writing in the weekly newsletter "As we wrap up the school year, …"

It is March for crying out loud. They don't even pretend that that want to educate our children. Top to bottom, it is REALLY bad.

can we get Duran fired somehow for complete mismanagement throughout the pandemic?

Arguably the worst part was before his tenure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Inside … outside. Hybrid … virtual. No matter what side you debate I think everyone can agree that APS has done a horrific job. I gave them a pass last spring. I gave them a VERY reluctant pass this fall. But now even our principal is writing in the weekly newsletter "As we wrap up the school year, …"

It is March for crying out loud. They don't even pretend that that want to educate our children. Top to bottom, it is REALLY bad.

I've been reading similar comments from teachers and principals at my kids' ES and MS. They've clearly already decided this year is finished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Hello genius, you still need a plan for rainy days.

Half the class on the classroom, half the class sitting on the floor in the hallways. Not ideal, but we are in a pandemic and the kids need an education.

We are in a pandemic. We all want our kids back in school, back to normal. And yes APS could have done a better job this past year. But I am certain no one at APS is going out of their way to destroy kids lives. I thought Duran's discussion of the challenges of 5x a week made sense: bus routes, lunch and rejiggering of classes would in fact be huge issues...and by the time they figured it out there would be what, six weeks of school left? Agree that any school is good school but lots of kids can't adjust to that many changes. We are in a pandemic. Everyone is doing the best they can based on the best information they have. They are committing to 5x a week school in the fall. And I 100 percent expect that to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can some explain how to make 3ft rule into 5 day school?

You get all 22 kids in class K-2. I guess you can spread 3 ft in every classroom?

But they need 6 ft when they eat lunch. So you are saying they all eat outside, on the ground, in all weather?

Is there anything I’m missing?

Buses you say, just run like normal school, masks and windows will do it (again in all weather?)

3 ft spacing won’t allow 22 kids in most rooms

I'm sorry, but kids are not sitting closer than 3 feet in classrooms.. they are not on each others laps.

VA guidelines for K-1 is a 975 sq ft classroom

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/facility_construction/school_construction/regs_guidelines/guidelines.pdf

3ft distance means 3ft left, right, front, which defines a 36 ft^2 space per pupil

22 kids need 792 sq ft. So you have 150 SQ ft for teacher, bathroom, sinks, counters, etc.

Assuming all old rooms meet guidelines. 2nd grade guides say 800 sq ft

I think your math may be off, as you're double counting the 3-feet (e.g., if I'm three feet to your left, you don't need to also count three feet from you to get three feet between us. So really, kids need to each sit in the center of a 9 sq ft box to be appropriately distanced. Since 9 times 25 is just 225 sq ft, it would be easy to accommodate students with three feet of distancing (indeed, with desks and aisles, it probably isn't that different from how classrooms normally look).

Oh right, its 3 ft between no 3 ft each person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^
Remember the guidelines say than 3 feet while in the classroom BUT 6 ft is required anytime the kids are unmasked. In some schools there are 18 to 20 kids per class that chose hybrid. The classrooms cannot accommodate 6 foot spacing while eating unmasked. Nor can the cafeterias handle that spacing. The only way to get around this is to spend money on a large quantity of tents- which are all apparently on back order. Not trying to be negative Nelly but it is a true hurdle

At our school, unless it is raining, the kids are sitting outside for lunch (elementary), they can easily keep the 6ft distance even if there are more kids in the class. They are just being lazy and don't want to rethink things.

Hello genius, you still need a plan for rainy days.

Half the class on the classroom, half the class sitting on the floor in the hallways. Not ideal, but we are in a pandemic and the kids need an education.

You would have to stagger class room lunches significantly because adjacent classrooms would overlap if they were in the hallway.