Has your school communicated a plan with teachers and families?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

I don't think you actually understand (1) how logistically impossible this ask is in terms of worldwide resources or (2) what it would feel like to wear an n95 all day. Seriously, this is an unreasonable ask. Teachers would not even agree to wear an n95 all day once they realized what it would feel like.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

I don't think you actually understand (1) how logistically impossible this ask is in terms of worldwide resources or (2) what it would feel like to wear an n95 all day. Seriously, this is an unreasonable ask. Teachers would not even agree to wear an n95 all day once they realized what it would feel like.

What? Ny doc friends are wearing N95s for their entire 10 hour shifts

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

I don't think you actually understand (1) how logistically impossible this ask is in terms of worldwide resources or (2) what it would feel like to wear an n95 all day. Seriously, this is an unreasonable ask. Teachers would not even agree to wear an n95 all day once they realized what it would feel like.

What? Ny doc friends are wearing N95s for their entire 10 hour shifts

Many are not. I work in an ER as an RN. We (the staff) only wear N95s when we're with a known Covid positive patient and are doing something like intubating.
My brother is in ER doctor in a Covid hot state. He wears a surgical mask except when intubating (when the virus is literally aerosolized in his face).

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

I don't think you actually understand (1) how logistically impossible this ask is in terms of worldwide resources or (2) what it would feel like to wear an n95 all day. Seriously, this is an unreasonable ask. Teachers would not even agree to wear an n95 all day once they realized what it would feel like.

What? Ny doc friends are wearing N95s for their entire 10 hour shifts

Very few doctors do this. Definitely not standard protocol in CNMC. Doctors are also used to wearing masks in general and n95s specifically. The average teacher has no idea what an n95 would feel like. I bet if they required them, teachers would be up in arms. Seriously.

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I find the TR survey interesting. I teach in NOVA and in my district almost 70% of families want in person.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

But it doesn’t matter. Do y’all know math or statistics; gesh. 37% didn’t respond but it’s a non-issue.

Really because I think you are the one in error of the math. Re-read previous post:

Family Data Summary
● 67% of families responded (459 families) ○ Families representing 63% of TR students
prefered their students attend school remotely.
○ Families representing 37% of TR students preferred their students to attend in-person.

It’s not 37% that did not respond. It’s 33%. 37% of those that responded wanted in person. So your point is the 33% that did not respond for whatever reason doesn’t matter then. Guess those families opinions are a non-issue.

Just let the 63% of the 67% families who responded for DL which really comes out to only 42% dictate DL for everyone else.

I hope your opinion doesn’t represent the majority of the TR community.

Are you at TR? You seem really upset by this. I'm sure no one thinks that those families who didn't respond are a non-issue; however, what else do you propose that TR do with these results? Ignoring the opinion of those who responded would be no different/just as bad as ignoring the opinion of those who did not respond. Unfortunately, the opinion of those who did not respond is not known. The fact is that for those families who did think it was important to respond, most wanted to continue distance learning.

There is also a staff issue. Most of the staff are not ready to return for a variety of reasons. Many have children who attend school in surrounding jurisdictions and since those schools are not yet open, they don't know what to do with their own children.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

But it doesn’t matter. Do y’all know math or statistics; gesh. 37% didn’t respond but it’s a non-issue.

Really because I think you are the one in error of the math. Re-read previous post:

Family Data Summary
● 67% of families responded (459 families) ○ Families representing 63% of TR students
prefered their students attend school remotely.
○ Families representing 37% of TR students preferred their students to attend in-person.

It’s not 37% that did not respond. It’s 33%. 37% of those that responded wanted in person. So your point is the 33% that did not respond for whatever reason doesn’t matter then. Guess those families opinions are a non-issue.

Just let the 63% of the 67% families who responded for DL which really comes out to only 42% dictate DL for everyone else.

I hope your opinion doesn’t represent the majority of the TR community.

Are you at TR? You seem really upset by this. I'm sure no one thinks that those families who didn't respond are a non-issue; however, what else do you propose that TR do with these results? Ignoring the opinion of those who responded would be no different/just as bad as ignoring the opinion of those who did not respond. Unfortunately, the opinion of those who did not respond is not known. The fact is that for those families who did think it was important to respond, most wanted to continue distance learning.

There is also a staff issue. Most of the staff are not ready to return for a variety of reasons. Many have children who attend school in surrounding jurisdictions and since those schools are not yet open, they don't know what to do with their own children.

Uh no, LCPS elementary going back. FCPS K-2 going back. Western MD schools going back. Ann Arundel schools going back. Don’t know about MCPS and PG but I bet if rest MD and VA going back, so will they. Older kids in middle and high school don’t need parents home.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

But it doesn’t matter. Do y’all know math or statistics; gesh. 37% didn’t respond but it’s a non-issue.

Really because I think you are the one in error of the math. Re-read previous post:

Family Data Summary
● 67% of families responded (459 families) ○ Families representing 63% of TR students
prefered their students attend school remotely.
○ Families representing 37% of TR students preferred their students to attend in-person.

It’s not 37% that did not respond. It’s 33%. 37% of those that responded wanted in person. So your point is the 33% that did not respond for whatever reason doesn’t matter then. Guess those families opinions are a non-issue.

Just let the 63% of the 67% families who responded for DL which really comes out to only 42% dictate DL for everyone else.

I hope your opinion doesn’t represent the majority of the TR community.

Are you at TR? You seem really upset by this. I'm sure no one thinks that those families who didn't respond are a non-issue; however, what else do you propose that TR do with these results? Ignoring the opinion of those who responded would be no different/just as bad as ignoring the opinion of those who did not respond. Unfortunately, the opinion of those who did not respond is not known. The fact is that for those families who did think it was important to respond, most wanted to continue distance learning.

There is also a staff issue. Most of the staff are not ready to return for a variety of reasons. Many have children who attend school in surrounding jurisdictions and since those schools are not yet open, they don't know what to do with their own children.

No one said anything about ignoring the options of those that responded. It was said that PP said the opinions of those that did not respond did not matter and was a “non-issue”.

Did the school ever think that some families can’t make that decision and did not respond to the survey without knowing the specifics of what the schools approach and processes was with hybrid?? I mean how hard is that not to think that could be a big reason.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

First of all, 100 minus 63 is 37, not 47.

Second, the schools can't do both DL and hybrid at the same time. They don't have the staff. You have to pick one or the other. Our school (not Two Rivers) cited this problem of "you can't do two things well" as a reason why they went with DL in August, and are now sticking with it through next year, because it can be continually improved, is the safest option, and a most parents are OK with it.

That have more than one class per grade right? And even if not teachers are certified for more than 1 grade level. Some teachers stay with DL others do hybrid simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

I don't think you actually understand (1) how logistically impossible this ask is in terms of worldwide resources or (2) what it would feel like to wear an n95 all day. Seriously, this is an unreasonable ask. Teachers would not even agree to wear an n95 all day once they realized what it would feel like.

It’s not that hard to wear an N95 8-3pm with appropriate breaks. Not at all. I do.


Re: availability, we could have all the N95s we needed by now. But Trump screwed up and didn’t ramp up production. Seems like it was intentional.

And the whole Republican Party backed him for tax cuts for billionaires and judges.

[Anonymous]

I find the discussion of N95 masks hilarious. It is not on the list for staff to wear all the time. Why is it unreasonable to want some N95 masks available for the nurse or other staff members to use if a kids becomes symptomatic in the building?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oyster parent here. No word yet about the reopening plan for our school. No survey, announcement or plan. Even our teachers are in the dark.

Maybe other schools have been communicating with staff and families?

I have nothing to add, except I’ve always loved the name Oyster for a school. It makes me hungry every time. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the discussion of N95 masks hilarious. It is not on the list for staff to wear all the time. Why is it unreasonable to want some N95 masks available for the nurse or other staff members to use if a kids becomes symptomatic in the building?

Of course a teacher in this very thread said of course the WTU is asking for n95 masks and it’s a reasonable ask. Teachers have literally no idea what the union is asking for; why pretend otherwise?