PSA - your kid isn’t going back to school anytime soon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well we can see other areas of the country with schools open so it’s not all about the federal government.

And now back to the war on science in the US. The spread of the virus is not uniform over the US. It wasn't uniform in China or other countries either. That isn't how viruses work.

Plus it's been a lot easier to follow CDC uniformly when it's one charter or private school vs coordinating across a huge school district.. This is not just a DC area issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point you guys are missing is that you can't force teachers to go back. You can't force them to put their lives on the line for you or your kids. What's your plan? Fire all the teachers that won't go back? Are you going to go in and be a long-term sub?

Everyone saying that schools should be prioritized ahead restaurants, movies, etc., clearly don't need those fields to make money. Open restaurants impacts the restaurant, suppliers, shipping, and employees.

DL is tough! I WFH full-time and have two kids learning via DL. I would love for my kids to go in-person, but not if they are going to be crowded in a classroom because teachers aren't showing up or parents send their kids in who have/had a fever and/or cough.

I think you missed the evolution this thread. The hypothesis put forth now is if they opened the schools first - before restaurants, bars, salons, etc - we wouldn’t be in this mess. After essential services should have come education/schools.

That was never an option because of the anti maskers and covid deniers who had fits about bars and hair salons being closed. And they got their cues from the white house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point you guys are missing is that you can't force teachers to go back. You can't force them to put their lives on the line for you or your kids. What's your plan? Fire all the teachers that won't go back? Are you going to go in and be a long-term sub?

Everyone saying that schools should be prioritized ahead restaurants, movies, etc., clearly don't need those fields to make money. Open restaurants impacts the restaurant, suppliers, shipping, and employees.

DL is tough! I WFH full-time and have two kids learning via DL. I would love for my kids to go in-person, but not if they are going to be crowded in a classroom because teachers aren't showing up or parents send their kids in who have/had a fever and/or cough.

Absolutely this. No we can't force them back but you can make them choose. No way it will ever happen in the liberal hell we're living in here in DC, but yeah, you don't work, you get fired. Sucks, but you don't get paid if you don't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now Kayleigh tested positive and just met with reporters maskless yesterday. Melania was sitting next to Amy whatever her name is's 7 kids all maskless. You want to know why schools can't open all the way? This is why.

Amy already had corona.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now Kayleigh tested positive and just met with reporters maskless yesterday. Melania was sitting next to Amy whatever her name is's 7 kids all maskless. You want to know why schools can't open all the way? This is why.

Amy already had corona.

I didn't realize it was possible to think less of her. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point you guys are missing is that you can't force teachers to go back. You can't force them to put their lives on the line for you or your kids. What's your plan? Fire all the teachers that won't go back? Are you going to go in and be a long-term sub?

Everyone saying that schools should be prioritized ahead restaurants, movies, etc., clearly don't need those fields to make money. Open restaurants impacts the restaurant, suppliers, shipping, and employees.

DL is tough! I WFH full-time and have two kids learning via DL. I would love for my kids to go in-person, but not if they are going to be crowded in a classroom because teachers aren't showing up or parents send their kids in who have/had a fever and/or cough.

I think you missed the evolution this thread. The hypothesis put forth now is if they opened the schools first - before restaurants, bars, salons, etc - we wouldn’t be in this mess. After essential services should have come education/schools.

That was never an option because of the anti maskers and covid deniers who had fits about bars and hair salons being closed. And they got their cues from the white house.

You mean those parents who were trying to put food on the table by working? Come on - the uproar wasn't about getting beer and a haircut. People are trying to earn a living to pay the rent and for groceries. These are their livelihoods. The lack of sympathy for what family breadwinners were going through during the height of lockdowns is really elitist.

Regardless, those calls about what to open what and when and under what regulations, were made by local elected officials like governors, not "covid deniers".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now Kayleigh tested positive and just met with reporters maskless yesterday. Melania was sitting next to Amy whatever her name is's 7 kids all maskless. You want to know why schools can't open all the way? This is why.

Amy already had corona.

I didn't realize it was possible to think less of her. Wow.

You think less of people who had coronavirus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point you guys are missing is that you can't force teachers to go back. You can't force them to put their lives on the line for you or your kids. What's your plan? Fire all the teachers that won't go back? Are you going to go in and be a long-term sub?

Everyone saying that schools should be prioritized ahead restaurants, movies, etc., clearly don't need those fields to make money. Open restaurants impacts the restaurant, suppliers, shipping, and employees.

DL is tough! I WFH full-time and have two kids learning via DL. I would love for my kids to go in-person, but not if they are going to be crowded in a classroom because teachers aren't showing up or parents send their kids in who have/had a fever and/or cough.

So how has it worked all over the country, then?

People on this thread don't seem to realize that schools are open in other parts of the country, and have been for weeks - and it's not just privates.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feared-covid-outbreaks-in-schools-yet-to-arrive-early-data-shows/ar-BB19ldYZ?ocid=msedgntp

[Anonymous]

Our school board is collaborating with physicians and epidemiologists from a local university medical center who were tasked with providing guidance on safe school reopening. At a recent board meeting, the physicians presented a convincing case that it is safe to open schools — risk will never be zero, but when the proper preventative measures are taken (ie masks), Covid is not propagating in schools. There are cases, yes, but they are acquired in the community and not passed on in the school setting when masks are worn.

In spite of these data, our school board wants to keep school virtual because “the teachers do not feel safe going back.”

So it really has come down to a battle of reason vs emotion, and emotion has won. The teachers are afraid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point you guys are missing is that you can't force teachers to go back. You can't force them to put their lives on the line for you or your kids. What's your plan? Fire all the teachers that won't go back? Are you going to go in and be a long-term sub?

Everyone saying that schools should be prioritized ahead restaurants, movies, etc., clearly don't need those fields to make money. Open restaurants impacts the restaurant, suppliers, shipping, and employees.

DL is tough! I WFH full-time and have two kids learning via DL. I would love for my kids to go in-person, but not if they are going to be crowded in a classroom because teachers aren't showing up or parents send their kids in who have/had a fever and/or cough.

Dcum has this collection be fantasy that they can find some magical wellspring of teachers somewhere who are highly qualified.

[Anonymous]

Y’all this is super depressing as a parent of two SN kiddos who need more than an average child for support but are not severely disabled....

but the ACIP or whatever the acronym is came out with a framework for the vaccine phases. Meaning who gets the first, second, etc.

Kids and teachers are in phase 3. AND important to note, kids will only get the vaccine after a clinical trial deems it safe and effective for children. I don’t think there are any clinical trials on children going right now.

https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/10/national-academies-release-framework-for-equitable-allocation-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-for-adoption-by-hhs-state-tribal-local-and-territorial-authorities

[Anonymous]

Enough with the teacher bashing! All teachers would rather be back in the classroom with OUR OWN KIDS BACK IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. It is not up to us! No one became a teacher to stare at a screen all day.

The school boards don’t have the money to reopen with the provisions like the privates are doing. Take it up with your elected representatives. The vast majority of teachers are just WOHMs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all this is super depressing as a parent of two SN kiddos who need more than an average child for support but are not severely disabled....

but the ACIP or whatever the acronym is came out with a framework for the vaccine phases. Meaning who gets the first, second, etc.

Kids and teachers are in phase 3. AND important to note, kids will only get the vaccine after a clinical trial deems it safe and effective for children. I don’t think there are any clinical trials on children going right now.

https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/10/national-academies-release-framework-for-equitable-allocation-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-for-adoption-by-hhs-state-tribal-local-and-territorial-authorities

But of course we have to prioritize front line workers, the elderly and those most at risk with chronic illness and comorbidities. Those with the highest risk of severe illness must be prioritized.

[Anonymous]

I’m in Indiana... our school started 100% in person k-4 today. Simultaneously, the state moved to stage 5. So, guess what? We’ve got people out and about with no masks, partying, sports going on, playdates, etc, and fall break traveling coming up. I totally agree with those saying they should stay in if schools open to make it safer, but the reality is that people will not exercise control when things open up. We have a high risk child, it’s much less safe now for any of us to leave the house because of the anti maskers (even in stores) than in March. We have to continue virtually for school as well, which has gone massively downhill since 50/50 began. Why is our school open you may ask? Parent protests. Yelling, entitled, rich people yelling at the school board... 75% of our teachers didn’t feel safe returning, but they apparently don’t matter. Neither does our family. I miss living in a blue state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enough with the teacher bashing! All teachers would rather be back in the classroom with OUR OWN KIDS BACK IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. It is not up to us! No one became a teacher to stare at a screen all day.

The school boards don’t have the money to reopen with the provisions like the privates are doing. Take it up with your elected representatives. The vast majority of teachers are just WOHMs.

This is categorically untrue. While it is unfair to place the blame for the current situation all on teachers, it is not the case that all teachers would be willing to teach right now. I am more inclined to side with a teacher who is trying their best right now, but with your statement you sound as ridiculous as the people who think this is all the teachers' fault.