Letter to FCPS about TJ Admissions By TJHSST Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that some UMC TJ alums are advocating for the change. How about you give up your position at a big law firm so the poor black/hispanic lawyer can have a chance at success?

Did you get your position through your connection? Well, that's white privilege and you should give that up. Did your get your position through hard work? That's how the current TJ students got their spot at the school but you are telling them that they should not be there.

You only advocate for change when it does not affect you anymore. Let me see you actually do what you preach!

Amen. Most TJ alumni are opposed to the change but few vocal alumni members hijacked the group and they are pretending like they speak for the group. These small vocal and aggressive members attack, intimidate and silence any opposition by other alumni members. Shameful how the cancel culture has led to loss of 1st amendment right in this country.

You do not understand what the First Amendment means. It does not protect you from having your views or preferences challenged by other TJ alumni, parents, or students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Asians face extensive discrimination and obstacles not faced by black or Hispanic candidates. Just look at how DNC and the MSM treated Andrew Yang.

And South Asians face more discrimination than East Asians due to the color of their skin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Asians face extensive discrimination and obstacles not faced by black or Hispanic candidates. Just look at how DNC and the MSM treated Andrew Yang.

And South Asians face more discrimination than East Asians due to the color of their skin.

Many South Asians have darker skin than African Americans.

My child’s AAP class was full of brown people but apparently not the right kind of brown people.

My child did Science Olympiad last year. He also played chess. The competitions felt very heavily Indian. I am not surprised TJ has so many South Indians.

My child is mixed Asian. I have no interest in sending my kids to TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Asians face extensive discrimination and obstacles not faced by black or Hispanic candidates. Just look at how DNC and the MSM treated Andrew Yang.

And South Asians face more discrimination than East Asians due to the color of their skin.

Many South Asians have darker skin than African Americans.

My child’s AAP class was full of brown people but apparently not the right kind of brown people.

My child did Science Olympiad last year. He also played chess. The competitions felt very heavily Indian. I am not surprised TJ has so many South Indians.

My child is mixed Asian. I have no interest in sending my kids to TJ.

50 shades of brown? 😅

Sorry I am actually sad while laughing

[Anonymous]

God bless the arrogance of youth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Make the test less preppable

While an admissions test is necessary, the current admissions test is flawed. Wealthier TJ applicants often attend private tutoring classes to prepare for the TJ admissions test. By creating a test that measures critical thinking, logic, and creative problem solving over standardized testing skills would help to eliminate the advantage that students who pay for private tutoring have. This was implemented for Class of 2022 admissions with the introduction of the Quant-Q, and we saw noticeable differences in class demographics."

What test would possibly fit this creteria? This was the goal of the Quant-Q. The Quant-Q is a GREAT test and is designed to be secured and unprepable. Go back and watch the school board meetings - everyone was SURE this would be the answer.

Unfornately, one prep company seems to have found a way to cheat their way to 28% of the class of 2024 by giving their students special access to the test. For the class of 2022, they only had 51 students, but "somehow" managed to get 133 students for 2024.

Also of note: One of the students is on the "2018 LIST OF CURIE STUDENTS WHO GOT ACCEPTED IN AOS/AET/TJ" published on the prep company's facebook page on 6/9/18. (I will not say which student!)

Lol, perfect.

Nice hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. You could use some therapy.

Nah. I wasn't born yesterday and can spot self serving BS when I see it. What kind of solution is income equality will solve TJ's diversity issues? If that's the the critical thinking the current TJ produces, change is long overdue.

Why do you think income inequality is the core problem here? Many poor Asian kids test into NYC's best schools--Stuyvesant, Bronx Science etc. Why do you think poor people can't test into TJ?

Look at the FARMS rate at TJ.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Asians face extensive discrimination and obstacles not faced by black or Hispanic candidates. Just look at how DNC and the MSM treated Andrew Yang.

And South Asians face more discrimination than East Asians due to the color of their skin.

Many South Asians have darker skin than African Americans.

My child’s AAP class was full of brown people but apparently not the right kind of brown people.

My child did Science Olympiad last year. He also played chess. The competitions felt very heavily Indian. I am not surprised TJ has so many South Indians.

My child is mixed Asian. I have no interest in sending my kids to TJ.

Oppression Olympics is not the way to go. Trump and Corey Stewart would be proud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This letter will go into the same trash where all letters to Brabrand and the School Board land. 2020 in FCPS should be a scary example for all of what unchecked, liberal Democratic leadership looks like.

School Boards have been out-of-touch long before Brabrand, but the Brabrand school board is definitely an example of an out-of-touch one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

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Yes! This!

If you don’t even want to solve differential equation, then why do you even want to go to TJ?

It is really confusing to me what you guys really want. You want to go to TJ, but you are not interested in what TJ has to offer, and you want to change TJ to what your base school. Why even bother then? Can you just leave those nerds alone to do what they want? TJ, after all, was created to be the Sacncturay for those nerds and Geeks in the first place .

Totally agree!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

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Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD

DD takes DE class at TJ now and tells me every day how she loves it. If she had to go to her base school, she probably could have graduated after 10th grade. Maybe that’s what other advanced kids should do in the future: if they don’t win the TJ lottery, just go to the base school and graduate earlier.

Going to college at 15, 16? May not be mature enough or emotionally ready though.

Some people just can’t seem to understand. There are actually lots of kids at TJ who just love these kind of stuff and genially enjoying it. These kids need TJ.

Welp. You'll need to start coming up with a plan other than TJ to fill that "need."

Then people can “lottery” and destroy that one too

Not if you pay for it.

1. Aren’t you discriminating the poor?
2. Public schools are required to meet this need by law

Really? I think they are obliged to provide a high school education but not necessarily one with advanced college level STEM.

If kids go in at the level of advanced college STEM, then not having that means that they're effectively not being provided with an education during their high school years. Maybe it would just look like they are and maybe they're effectively home-schooling because they aren't getting anything from the school. It's wrong to dismiss the legal aspect out-of-hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if you feel like your spot is "stolen" by the lottery. The lottery makes your chance of getting in equal to others. Why should higher SES kids whose parents can pay for enrichment, prep classes and tutors have a monopoly on attending TJ. Be grateful for the years and years of having that monopoly and stop trying to hog everything for yourself.

Except that it wouldn't be about "feelings," it would be about some of the legitimately best-qualified students literally having their spots taken by other, less-qualified students ("stolen" might not be the best word since it wouldn't be up to the other student either).

Also, I agree with the poster who said that there are plenty of reasons why some kids might be in a position succeed in TJ which have nothing to do with enrichment, and it's rather rude to suggest that the end-all-be-all of TJ admission success is students seeking unfair advantages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that some UMC TJ alums are advocating for the change. How about you give up your position at a big law firm so the poor black/hispanic lawyer can have a chance at success?

Did you get your position through your connection? Well, that's white privilege and you should give that up. Did your get your position through hard work? That's how the current TJ students got their spot at the school but you are telling them that they should not be there.

You only advocate for change when it does not affect you anymore. Let me see you actually do what you preach!

Amen. Most TJ alumni are opposed to the change but few vocal alumni members hijacked the group and they are pretending like they speak for the group. These small vocal and aggressive members attack, intimidate and silence any opposition by other alumni members. Shameful how the cancel culture has led to loss of 1st amendment right in this country.

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There is no loss of 1st amendment rights. No one is stopping you from voicing your opinions, as evidenced on this board. The fact that people don't agree with your side of an argument doesn't mean you lost your 1st amendment rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Asians face extensive discrimination and obstacles not faced by black or Hispanic candidates. Just look at how DNC and the MSM treated Andrew Yang.

Andrew Yang got a speaking spot at the DNC despite getting only 1 percent of the vote in IOWA. He's is now regularly on CNN. What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

For the perspective from the TJ Alumni Action Group, please visit the website www.tjaag.org. A press release was posted after the proposal was announced.