Letter to FCPS about TJ Admissions By TJHSST Students

[Anonymous]

PP, FCPS neighborhoods have very few poor Asians. Compared to NYC, where many, many Asians live at the poverty line.

I will also say that the fact that most of Stuyvesant's Asians are poor has not shielded the school from the accusation of bias and privilege - although it's difficult to see how a poor, 1st generation Asian immigrant family in NYC is in any way privileged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

[Anonymous]

I find it funny that some UMC TJ alums are advocating for the change. How about you give up your position at a big law firm so the poor black/hispanic lawyer can have a chance at success?

Did you get your position through your connection? Well, that's white privilege and you should give that up. Did your get your position through hard work? That's how the current TJ students got their spot at the school but you are telling them that they should not be there.

You only advocate for change when it does not affect you anymore. Let me see you actually do what you preach!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that some UMC TJ alums are advocating for the change. How about you give up your position at a big law firm so the poor black/hispanic lawyer can have a chance at success?

Did you get your position through your connection? Well, that's white privilege and you should give that up. Did your get your position through hard work? That's how the current TJ students got their spot at the school but you are telling them that they should not be there.

You only advocate for change when it does not affect you anymore. Let me see you actually do what you preach!

Believe it or not, it's okay to advocate for a wrong to be fixed that you benefited from in the past. That's called caring about your community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

You might be on to something here....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that some UMC TJ alums are advocating for the change. How about you give up your position at a big law firm so the poor black/hispanic lawyer can have a chance at success?

Did you get your position through your connection? Well, that's white privilege and you should give that up. Did your get your position through hard work? That's how the current TJ students got their spot at the school but you are telling them that they should not be there.

You only advocate for change when it does not affect you anymore. Let me see you actually do what you preach!

Believe it or not, it's okay to advocate for a wrong to be fixed that you benefited from in the past. That's called caring about your community.

Then do what you preach and give up your current position of privilege to show how much you care about your community.

[Anonymous]

Oh Captain, my captain!

[Anonymous]

What they really need is a letter from all the students who decided against attending TJ because they would have little or nothing in common with their classmates, and would feel unwanted.

[Anonymous]

When 1/3 of the students are admitted from one prep place - change is needed. Immigrants are organized, and you better believe that information traveled like wildfire, just as the test questions and answers did. In what world is that okay? Why should cheating be tolerated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if you feel like your spot is "stolen" by the lottery. The lottery makes your chance of getting in equal to others. Why should higher SES kids whose parents can pay for enrichment, prep classes and tutors have a monopoly on attending TJ. Be grateful for the years and years of having that monopoly and stop trying to hog everything for yourself.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, FCPS neighborhoods have very few poor Asians. Compared to NYC, where many, many Asians live at the poverty line.

I will also say that the fact that most of Stuyvesant's Asians are poor has not shielded the school from the accusation of bias and privilege - although it's difficult to see how a poor, 1st generation Asian immigrant family in NYC is in any way privileged.

I don't this is correct. There is some substantial Asian poverty - primarily Vietnamese, Filipino, and perhaps also Pakistani/Afghan, in the Annandale, Falls Church and Lewis pyramids. Some of the Koreans in the Centreville area are moderate, if not low, income as well.

It is probably fair to say there are very few poor East Asians in FCPS, compared to the large low-income Chinese population in NYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD