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Anonymous wrote:Non-cooks get so upset when people who love to cook actually cook for their kids... it's like cooking for your kids offends them or questions the way they raise their kids so they have to act like it's an act of terrible parenting.

And the people who want their kids to pay or pay 1/2 like WTF.

Crazy, that a parent would expect a kid to pay or pay half for an unnecessary, luxury item. The horror! Do you seriously just buy your kids whatever they want without question??

I don't consider food a luxury item. It's a request for a particular type of food.

You do you. I think that’s spoiling your kids. I don’t just grant my kid a “request” for expensive food.

Well I don't deny my kids healthy food simply because it is more expensive.

How nice to be in an economic class where you don't have to say 'no' to your kids. I'm solid middle class but just because my kid want something 'healthy' doesn't mean I buy it. My kids prefer raspberries but I buy strawberries because they're a better value.

Are strawberries always a better value? We buy big bags of frozen berries all year as well as fresh when in season. My kids prefer blueberries and sometimes, in season, they are cheaper than strawberries.

But bananas are cheapest of all and if saving money is what matters most, you’d be saving a lot more just feeding your kids bananas and not any berries of any kind.

That said, are you really saving THAT much on strawberries vs. raspberries? Enough that it’s worth you kids looking back and saying “Mom was so cheap that she never let us have raspberries because they were 50 cents more per lb.”

Yeah that PP doesn't sound very lovable. I doubt her kids will look back fondly on their childhoods with her....

I just remember my mom doing that with bread and soap. So we really were poor. Not just DCUM poor. My mom would buy the cheapest bread and bar soap. Sometimes the difference between the cheapest and the next one up was pennies. Like the store brand loaf was 4 cents cheaper than a local brand. My guess is that at a loaf a week, it took her months of saving that 4 cents per loaf before it translated into a “free loaf” from the savings. Same for soap. Worse, the soap made me itch. I remember begging for ivory. The answer was always no, we can’t afford it. Ivory was one of the first things I bought when I got a little under the table job. Now, I understand why mom did it. She had no other options. However, PP says she’s solidly middle class. The strawberry thing seems so controlling and a type of disordered eating that they have to always eat the cheaper choice.

Disordered eating doesn't mean what you think it means. The PP isn't banning foods, she declines to purchase them. I won't buy bottled water, not because I can't afford it but because it's a waste of money. That doesn't mean my kids don't drink water or that I'm trying to control them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

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The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

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Can't address the DD who wants to lose weight (although it sounds like a bad idea, and drinking "food" is generally unhelpful). However, why is your teen who is trying to gain weight eating an egg white? He should be eating whole eggs at a minimum, and even then it's not very calorie dense. He needs things like peanut butter, cheese, avocados, granoloa with nuts and whole milk. I know because my kids have to eat these per the ped and nutritionist. And always liquids after solids--eat first, drink after.

I used to think like you, that nutrition had to be 'chewed' in order to be healthy. You're wrong. It's what's in the stuff that's important. One of my kids has SN and it took me longer than it should have to accept, even though I was working with professionals, to recognize that good nutrition didn't require chewing. My kid won't 'chew' in the morning but he absolutely will drink. He get's a high protein Boost drink every morning. The rest of us have grabbed on every now and then because it's convenient and healthy. My 100 year old grandmother has also done a lot better since she started including them.

Yes it's better for someone who would not eat at all, but chewing your food is healthier for a healthy human with no underlying issues.

What is your source for that information? Sounds like it's something your grandma told you.

Try an expert, or lacking that ability, Google.

Ah, so you don't know and you have no evidence. Our nutritionists and medical experts have said liquid nutrition is perfectly acceptable.

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Perfectly acceptable is not the same as ideal or healthiest, which is what the original poster claimed.

I'm fine with parents giving a Pediasure or Boost to their kids, or kids having smoothies, or whatever. There are kids who survive on nothing but liquid nutrition, and many have G-tubes or other bypass routes, so they would not be chewing anyway. But it's also true that digestion and some immune system processes start in the mouth with chewing, which stimulates and incorporates multiple salivary enzymes. You can bypass that step, but it's there for a reason, and it helps digestion.

https://sciencing.com/names-enzymes-mouth-esophagus-17242.html

Do you have to chew everything? No. Is there benefit to chewing your food, and everything that comes with that? Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-cooks get so upset when people who love to cook actually cook for their kids... it's like cooking for your kids offends them or questions the way they raise their kids so they have to act like it's an act of terrible parenting.

And the people who want their kids to pay or pay 1/2 like WTF.

Crazy, that a parent would expect a kid to pay or pay half for an unnecessary, luxury item. The horror! Do you seriously just buy your kids whatever they want without question??

I don't consider food a luxury item. It's a request for a particular type of food.

You do you. I think that’s spoiling your kids. I don’t just grant my kid a “request” for expensive food.

Well I don't deny my kids healthy food simply because it is more expensive.

How nice to be in an economic class where you don't have to say 'no' to your kids. I'm solid middle class but just because my kid want something 'healthy' doesn't mean I buy it. My kids prefer raspberries but I buy strawberries because they're a better value.

Are strawberries always a better value? We buy big bags of frozen berries all year as well as fresh when in season. My kids prefer blueberries and sometimes, in season, they are cheaper than strawberries.

But bananas are cheapest of all and if saving money is what matters most, you’d be saving a lot more just feeding your kids bananas and not any berries of any kind.

That said, are you really saving THAT much on strawberries vs. raspberries? Enough that it’s worth you kids looking back and saying “Mom was so cheap that she never let us have raspberries because they were 50 cents more per lb.”

Yeah that PP doesn't sound very lovable. I doubt her kids will look back fondly on their childhoods with her....

Or a teen could, I don’t know, get a job if they want expensive stuff

What jobs can teens get in this economy? We see adults bagging groceries, walking dogs, and knocking on doors to mow lawns.

Bagging groceries, walking dogs, tutoring, mowing lawns, etc. Parents make that excuse for their kids a lot. They have to call around. Grocery stores are hiring.

They are hiring adults.

They are hiring teens.

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Could you do daily harvest instead? They’re full of real food.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

(NP)

The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

(NP)

The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

NP

You need help with your disordered eating. You do not get to set the norms or what is healthy for other families. Weirdo

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

(NP)

The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

NP

You need help with your disordered eating. You do not get to set the norms or what is healthy for other families. Weirdo

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I would encourage them to make their own recipes. But if they want it, they can have it because they’d be paying for it.

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Love all the people derailing this thread over what time breakfast gets eaten. Crazies.

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Smoothies are so easy--I'm not sure why you'd need to spend $135 for powders. DS likes peanut butter, banana, and chocolate smoothies with oat milk. Use cocoa powder if you don't want to use chocolate syrup. DD likes fruit smoothies with yogurt. You can use plain if you don't want added sugar.
I'd rather invest $400 in a Vitamix that everyone can use rather than $135 for a subscription.

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Can't address the DD who wants to lose weight (although it sounds like a bad idea, and drinking "food" is generally unhelpful). However, why is your teen who is trying to gain weight eating an egg white? He should be eating whole eggs at a minimum, and even then it's not very calorie dense. He needs things like peanut butter, cheese, avocados, granoloa with nuts and whole milk. I know because my kids have to eat these per the ped and nutritionist. And always liquids after solids--eat first, drink after.

I used to think like you, that nutrition had to be 'chewed' in order to be healthy. You're wrong. It's what's in the stuff that's important. One of my kids has SN and it took me longer than it should have to accept, even though I was working with professionals, to recognize that good nutrition didn't require chewing. My kid won't 'chew' in the morning but he absolutely will drink. He get's a high protein Boost drink every morning. The rest of us have grabbed on every now and then because it's convenient and healthy. My 100 year old grandmother has also done a lot better since she started including them.

Yes it's better for someone who would not eat at all, but chewing your food is healthier for a healthy human with no underlying issues.

What is your source for that information? Sounds like it's something your grandma told you.

Try an expert, or lacking that ability, Google.

Ah, so you don't know and you have no evidence. Our nutritionists and medical experts have said liquid nutrition is perfectly acceptable.

NP

Perfectly acceptable is not the same as ideal or healthiest, which is what the original poster claimed.

I'm fine with parents giving a Pediasure or Boost to their kids, or kids having smoothies, or whatever. There are kids who survive on nothing but liquid nutrition, and many have G-tubes or other bypass routes, so they would not be chewing anyway. But it's also true that digestion and some immune system processes start in the mouth with chewing, which stimulates and incorporates multiple salivary enzymes. You can bypass that step, but it's there for a reason, and it helps digestion.

https://sciencing.com/names-enzymes-mouth-esophagus-17242.html

Do you have to chew everything? No. Is there benefit to chewing your food, and everything that comes with that? Yes.

I'm sorry, I can't seem to find where anyone said liquid nutrition was 'ideal' or 'healthiest'. Can you point out where that is?

And, I'm wondering if you even read the article you linked to - or did you just do a google search, not find your compelling evidence and hope no one read this? While the article describes which enzymes are involved in digestion, there's nothing in it that provides a compelling, or even modest, case for avoiding liquid nutrition. Even Weight Watchers doesn't advise against it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

(NP)

The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

1) I would be nauseated if I ate breakfast at 8 or 8:30 and then had lunch at noon or even one. I need more time between those meals.

2) Growing brains should avoid 12+ hour fasts.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-cooks get so upset when people who love to cook actually cook for their kids... it's like cooking for your kids offends them or questions the way they raise their kids so they have to act like it's an act of terrible parenting.

And the people who want their kids to pay or pay 1/2 like WTF.

Crazy, that a parent would expect a kid to pay or pay half for an unnecessary, luxury item. The horror! Do you seriously just buy your kids whatever they want without question??

I don't consider food a luxury item. It's a request for a particular type of food.

You do you. I think that’s spoiling your kids. I don’t just grant my kid a “request” for expensive food.

Well I don't deny my kids healthy food simply because it is more expensive.

How nice to be in an economic class where you don't have to say 'no' to your kids. I'm solid middle class but just because my kid want something 'healthy' doesn't mean I buy it. My kids prefer raspberries but I buy strawberries because they're a better value.

Are strawberries always a better value? We buy big bags of frozen berries all year as well as fresh when in season. My kids prefer blueberries and sometimes, in season, they are cheaper than strawberries.

But bananas are cheapest of all and if saving money is what matters most, you’d be saving a lot more just feeding your kids bananas and not any berries of any kind.

That said, are you really saving THAT much on strawberries vs. raspberries? Enough that it’s worth you kids looking back and saying “Mom was so cheap that she never let us have raspberries because they were 50 cents more per lb.”

Yeah that PP doesn't sound very lovable. I doubt her kids will look back fondly on their childhoods with her....

I just remember my mom doing that with bread and soap. So we really were poor. Not just DCUM poor. My mom would buy the cheapest bread and bar soap. Sometimes the difference between the cheapest and the next one up was pennies. Like the store brand loaf was 4 cents cheaper than a local brand. My guess is that at a loaf a week, it took her months of saving that 4 cents per loaf before it translated into a “free loaf” from the savings. Same for soap. Worse, the soap made me itch. I remember begging for ivory. The answer was always no, we can’t afford it. Ivory was one of the first things I bought when I got a little under the table job. Now, I understand why mom did it. She had no other options. However, PP says she’s solidly middle class. The strawberry thing seems so controlling and a type of disordered eating that they have to always eat the cheaper choice.

Disordered eating doesn't mean what you think it means. The PP isn't banning foods, she declines to purchase them. I won't buy bottled water, not because I can't afford it but because it's a waste of money. That doesn't mean my kids don't drink water or that I'm trying to control them.

Never allowing kids to eat a preferred healthy food that you can afford is setting them up for a lifetime unhealthy relationship with food. I bet it’s not limited to strawberries rattan raspberries either.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

(NP)

The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

Some people wake up hungry. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?