Teens want instant smoothie subscription

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Can't address the DD who wants to lose weight (although it sounds like a bad idea, and drinking "food" is generally unhelpful). However, why is your teen who is trying to gain weight eating an egg white? He should be eating whole eggs at a minimum, and even then it's not very calorie dense. He needs things like peanut butter, cheese, avocados, granoloa with nuts and whole milk. I know because my kids have to eat these per the ped and nutritionist. And always liquids after solids--eat first, drink after.

I used to think like you, that nutrition had to be 'chewed' in order to be healthy. You're wrong. It's what's in the stuff that's important. One of my kids has SN and it took me longer than it should have to accept, even though I was working with professionals, to recognize that good nutrition didn't require chewing. My kid won't 'chew' in the morning but he absolutely will drink. He get's a high protein Boost drink every morning. The rest of us have grabbed on every now and then because it's convenient and healthy. My 100 year old grandmother has also done a lot better since she started including them.

Yes it's better for someone who would not eat at all, but chewing your food is healthier for a healthy human with no underlying issues.

What is your source for that information? Sounds like it's something your grandma told you.

Try an expert, or lacking that ability, Google.

Ah, so you don't know and you have no evidence. Our nutritionists and medical experts have said liquid nutrition is perfectly acceptable.

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Perfectly acceptable is not the same as ideal or healthiest, which is what the original poster claimed.

I'm fine with parents giving a Pediasure or Boost to their kids, or kids having smoothies, or whatever. There are kids who survive on nothing but liquid nutrition, and many have G-tubes or other bypass routes, so they would not be chewing anyway. But it's also true that digestion and some immune system processes start in the mouth with chewing, which stimulates and incorporates multiple salivary enzymes. You can bypass that step, but it's there for a reason, and it helps digestion.

https://sciencing.com/names-enzymes-mouth-esophagus-17242.html

Do you have to chew everything? No. Is there benefit to chewing your food, and everything that comes with that? Yes.

I'm sorry, I can't seem to find where anyone said liquid nutrition was 'ideal' or 'healthiest'. Can you point out where that is?

All this was in response to an earlier post, which is still included in the thread above. It's even still in bold. A poster (you? someone else? Nobody knows on an anonymous board, and I've learned not to assume) responded disparagingly to "chewing your food is healthier." This thread is in response to that, and to the request for answers why.

And, I'm wondering if you even read the article you linked to - or did you just do a google search, not find your compelling evidence and hope no one read this? While the article describes which enzymes are involved in digestion, there's nothing in it that provides a compelling, or even modest, case for avoiding liquid nutrition. Even Weight Watchers doesn't advise against it.

Since we are playing the game of "I'm sorry, I can't seem to find …" -- can you show me where I said liquid nutrition must be avoided or should be advised against? (Spoiler: I specifically said the opposite. See if you can find it! Spoiler 2: It's in my post.)

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I don't know what rattan raspberries are, but I definitely know I don't want to eat them.

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Can't address the DD who wants to lose weight (although it sounds like a bad idea, and drinking "food" is generally unhelpful). However, why is your teen who is trying to gain weight eating an egg white? He should be eating whole eggs at a minimum, and even then it's not very calorie dense. He needs things like peanut butter, cheese, avocados, granoloa with nuts and whole milk. I know because my kids have to eat these per the ped and nutritionist. And always liquids after solids--eat first, drink after.

I used to think like you, that nutrition had to be 'chewed' in order to be healthy. You're wrong. It's what's in the stuff that's important. One of my kids has SN and it took me longer than it should have to accept, even though I was working with professionals, to recognize that good nutrition didn't require chewing. My kid won't 'chew' in the morning but he absolutely will drink. He get's a high protein Boost drink every morning. The rest of us have grabbed on every now and then because it's convenient and healthy. My 100 year old grandmother has also done a lot better since she started including them.

Yes it's better for someone who would not eat at all, but chewing your food is healthier for a healthy human with no underlying issues.

What is your source for that information? Sounds like it's something your grandma told you.

Try an expert, or lacking that ability, Google.

Ah, so you don't know and you have no evidence. Our nutritionists and medical experts have said liquid nutrition is perfectly acceptable.

NP

Perfectly acceptable is not the same as ideal or healthiest, which is what the original poster claimed.

I'm fine with parents giving a Pediasure or Boost to their kids, or kids having smoothies, or whatever. There are kids who survive on nothing but liquid nutrition, and many have G-tubes or other bypass routes, so they would not be chewing anyway. But it's also true that digestion and some immune system processes start in the mouth with chewing, which stimulates and incorporates multiple salivary enzymes. You can bypass that step, but it's there for a reason, and it helps digestion.

https://sciencing.com/names-enzymes-mouth-esophagus-17242.html

Do you have to chew everything? No. Is there benefit to chewing your food, and everything that comes with that? Yes.

I'm sorry, I can't seem to find where anyone said liquid nutrition was 'ideal' or 'healthiest'. Can you point out where that is?

And, I'm wondering if you even read the article you linked to - or did you just do a google search, not find your compelling evidence and hope no one read this? While the article describes which enzymes are involved in digestion, there's nothing in it that provides a compelling, or even modest, case for avoiding liquid nutrition. Even Weight Watchers doesn't advise against it.

Get a room.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the big deal? Does everything have to be perfect? They want to try it. It's only $135. So what. They're teenagers. Let them have some say over what they eat.

They should pay for it then.

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:Smoothies are just a bunch of sugar
It will not help hunger and it will actually make your overweight daughter more hungry fast

If your DD insists on breakfast, have her eat something with protien.

Actual smoothies (with vegetables, fruit, ice/water and protein) are filling and healthy. They prevent snacking.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-cooks get so upset when people who love to cook actually cook for their kids... it's like cooking for your kids offends them or questions the way they raise their kids so they have to act like it's an act of terrible parenting.

And the people who want their kids to pay or pay 1/2 like WTF.

Crazy, that a parent would expect a kid to pay or pay half for an unnecessary, luxury item. The horror! Do you seriously just buy your kids whatever they want without question??

I don't consider food a luxury item. It's a request for a particular type of food.

You do you. I think that’s spoiling your kids. I don’t just grant my kid a “request” for expensive food.

Well I don't deny my kids healthy food simply because it is more expensive.

How nice to be in an economic class where you don't have to say 'no' to your kids. I'm solid middle class but just because my kid want something 'healthy' doesn't mean I buy it. My kids prefer raspberries but I buy strawberries because they're a better value.

Are strawberries always a better value? We buy big bags of frozen berries all year as well as fresh when in season. My kids prefer blueberries and sometimes, in season, they are cheaper than strawberries.

But bananas are cheapest of all and if saving money is what matters most, you’d be saving a lot more just feeding your kids bananas and not any berries of any kind.

That said, are you really saving THAT much on strawberries vs. raspberries? Enough that it’s worth you kids looking back and saying “Mom was so cheap that she never let us have raspberries because they were 50 cents more per lb.”

Well, I can usually find strawberries for $2-2.50/lb. Raspberries are the same price for 6 oz. There’s no comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they eating at 7:30am?

School starts at 9. Why wouldn’t students eat at 7:30?

Because they are not hungry. I would not have them, especially anybody trying to lose weight, eating before they are hungry.

My kid chooses to wake up at 7, year round, so he eats breakfast at 7:30

That doesn't make it right.

What? Please elaborate on what is “wrong” about that

You should eat when you are hungry not because you are awake.

Wait -- where did anyone said the kid wasn't hungry? Are you under the impression that nobody is ever hungry in the morning?

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The question was why are they eating at 7:30.

The answer was because school starts at 9.

They did not say "because they are hungry"... but i would wonder why somebody is hungry at 7:30... maybe they eat dinner at 5, then it would be normal.

But that is not what they said, they said... because school starts at 9, meaning they are teaching their kids to eat even if they are not hungry... because school starts at 9.

BTW if you are eating late... 7pm and your child is hungry at 7:30 I would eat less carbs and sugar and more fat and protein.

I don’t understand your logic here. Everyone in my family, and all my friends, feeds their kids breakfast. It’s normal to eat breakfast. Even we had to leave the house at 5.45 am to get to school my kids ate breakfast. We’re all a healthy weight BTW.

Again, just because you do it and your friends do it does not mean it is healthy.

Normal to eat breakfast but is it normal at 4am, 5am, 7am? no, it's not normal, you are forcing yourself to eat because you read somewhere "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and you don't have a solution for eating at a more "normal"/ healthy time.

Right. Because school and work both grown on someone deciding to get up and get their breakfast because they’re finally hungry enough to eat.

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Anonymous wrote:I want a yacht and a slender, well-muscled houseboy. Doesn't mean I'm getting one.