Social Distancing and my kids' sanity: what are you guys doing - honestly?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised so many people are seeing older relatives. Are you going to keep seeing them if schools open back up?

We won’t. Once our bubble pops, it will be at a distance only. As it is, we are only bubbled with one set of older relatives and seeing others only virtually or at enforced distances.

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Anonymous wrote:We are following the VA guidelines but that still lets us have Outdoor play dates, indoor play dates with one friend, little league, swim team lap swimming, soccer camp in two weeks, etc.

Same. We are following our state’s guidance - playgrounds are open as is other outdoor activities. They can meet up with individual friends outside. No big groups. Kids are 11 and 9

Look how that worked out on Texas and Florida. Be smart.

Yes, it's that playground-spread that's driving Texas and Florida's numbers.

It's too bad we can't have a mature conversation. If you have information that COVID avoids playgrounds, share it. I've been to parks and playgrounds recently because we have been going stir crazy, and people are idiots. From what I can see, yes, it is likely there will be COVID19 spread at playgrounds.

What I am hearing from epidemiologists is that the virus doesn’t seem to be spreading from contact with surfaces that have the virus, or at least not as much as what people had initially thought it was.
The problem is with water droplets that come out of your mouth when you sing, shout, or project your voice.

Inside, these water droplets can hang in the air for hours. However, outside, they are quickly blown away in the wind.

This is why playing on the playground is relatively safe, but singing inside a church isn’t safe at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised so many people are seeing older relatives. Are you going to keep seeing them if schools open back up?

We won’t. Once our bubble pops, it will be at a distance only. As it is, we are only bubbled with one set of older relatives and seeing others only virtually or at enforced distances.

I can see that.
We both work in healthcare and were never really able to bubble effectively. We see other low risk people only, and we will see our older relatives when there is a vaccine.

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Anonymous wrote:We are following the VA guidelines but that still lets us have Outdoor play dates, indoor play dates with one friend, little league, swim team lap swimming, soccer camp in two weeks, etc.

Same. We are following our state’s guidance - playgrounds are open as is other outdoor activities. They can meet up with individual friends outside. No big groups. Kids are 11 and 9

Look how that worked out on Texas and Florida. Be smart.

Yes, it's that playground-spread that's driving Texas and Florida's numbers.

It's too bad we can't have a mature conversation. If you have information that COVID avoids playgrounds, share it. I've been to parks and playgrounds recently because we have been going stir crazy, and people are idiots. From what I can see, yes, it is likely there will be COVID19 spread at playgrounds.

Kids have been playing at playgrounds for a month. Name all the outbreaks.

But it was outside, surely it should have been ok.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-virus-didnt-stop-a-washington-socialite-from-throwing-a-backyard-soiree-then-the-tests-came-back-positive/2020/07/01/841041ba-ba19-11ea-bdaf-a129f921026f_story.html

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It is, of course, unclear how or when Bronczek contracted the virus and who she may have passed it to, and there's no reason to believe she knew she had it. But within hours of the dinner, she began showing symptoms and was diagnosed shortly thereafter. Others who sat at her table [b]are rumored to have also tested positive but did not return calls or declined to comment.[/b] Citing federal privacy laws, the ballet said that it cannot disclose any personal health information about any staff or artists.


So, we don't know if anyone else actually got it. Or if their only exposure to Bronczek was this party, since all their kids are also playing together regularly at her backyard summer camp.

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Anonymous wrote:We are following the VA guidelines but that still lets us have Outdoor play dates, indoor play dates with one friend, little league, swim team lap swimming, soccer camp in two weeks, etc.

Same. We are following our state’s guidance - playgrounds are open as is other outdoor activities. They can meet up with individual friends outside. No big groups. Kids are 11 and 9

Look how that worked out on Texas and Florida. Be smart.

Yes, it's that playground-spread that's driving Texas and Florida's numbers.

It's too bad we can't have a mature conversation. If you have information that COVID avoids playgrounds, share it. I've been to parks and playgrounds recently because we have been going stir crazy, and people are idiots. From what I can see, yes, it is likely there will be COVID19 spread at playgrounds.

Kids have been playing at playgrounds for a month. Name all the outbreaks.

But it was outside, surely it should have been ok.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-virus-didnt-stop-a-washington-socialite-from-throwing-a-backyard-soiree-then-the-tests-came-back-positive/2020/07/01/841041ba-ba19-11ea-bdaf-a129f921026f_story.html

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It is, of course, unclear how or when Bronczek contracted the virus and who she may have passed it to, and there's no reason to believe she knew she had it. But within hours of the dinner, she began showing symptoms and was diagnosed shortly thereafter. Others who sat at her table [b]are rumored to have also tested positive but did not return calls or declined to comment.[/b] Citing federal privacy laws, the ballet said that it cannot disclose any personal health information about any staff or artists.


So, we don't know if anyone else actually got it. Or if their only exposure to Bronczek was this party, since all their kids are also playing together regularly at her backyard summer camp.

"The news spread among Bronczek’s friends, many of whom had attended the dinner or had children in her backyard summer camp. The kids had been part of an informal play group of wealthy families who interacted on a regular basis and spent a lot of time together. "

This is not about one single dinner party, although it clearly broke Phase 1 guidelines, but about a group of people who weren't social distancing in general.

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I bet they were having nannies come to work during stay at home and supervising the camps and playgroups.
Yikes

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Yeah whoever attended the party has no right to be mad at the party thrower. They chose to assume that risk. Especially the people letting their kids all run around together. One of those families could have given it to her. She’s annoying but so are they.

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Tell her, "Yes, I am the worst mother in the history of the world because my mission is to keep you healthy and I intend to continue doing exactly what I have been doing. When you have children then you can do what you want but until then, I am your boss and you do what I say!"

Then send her to her room and not to come out until she can behave.p

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Anonymous wrote:I seriously feel bad for some of you. The level of anxiety disorder you must have to be borderline shut ins must be hard to live with.

All these kids I know hanging out and no one has corona yet. Lol

I have a friend who is a nurse at INOVA. She is exhausted. I think it’s insanely rude to our local medical staff to take silly risks. My older kid is allowed to bike with the neighbor kids, but nothing indoors, or within six feet. When we go on
hikes, we wear masks when within six feet of others. We have double bubbled with my parents, so we don’t wear masks around them. Yes, it’s sad for my kids. But it would be sadder if my nurse friend caught Coronavirus and suffered major organ damage.

I am a nurse at Inova Fairfax. I am not exhausted. Our case load is way down and treatment with the antivirals is effective. Not sure what’s going on with your imaginary “friend”, but my coworkers and I all want back to full time in person.

This. My friend's hospital hasn't had any COVID patients in a month. She's getting ready to go on vacation with her husband, daughters and parents to a resort for the 4th.

Bullshit.

Sorry reality isn't agreeing with you. Absolute truth. I'm in the Midwest now, though.

Like I said, BULLSHIT. That's like responding to a post about the weather and saying, "It's not hot and humid at all." Well, it is HERE, which is where WE ARE.

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Anonymous wrote:We are following the VA guidelines but that still lets us have Outdoor play dates, indoor play dates with one friend, little league, swim team lap swimming, soccer camp in two weeks, etc.

Same. We are following our state’s guidance - playgrounds are open as is other outdoor activities. They can meet up with individual friends outside. No big groups. Kids are 11 and 9

Look how that worked out on Texas and Florida. Be smart.

Yes, it's that playground-spread that's driving Texas and Florida's numbers.

It's too bad we can't have a mature conversation. If you have information that COVID avoids playgrounds, share it. I've been to parks and playgrounds recently because we have been going stir crazy, and people are idiots. From what I can see, yes, it is likely there will be COVID19 spread at playgrounds.

Kids have been playing at playgrounds for a month. Name all the outbreaks.

But it was outside, surely it should have been ok.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-virus-didnt-stop-a-washington-socialite-from-throwing-a-backyard-soiree-then-the-tests-came-back-positive/2020/07/01/841041ba-ba19-11ea-bdaf-a129f921026f_story.html

Not enough details to know if they got sick at the party, actually, or if it was all outside. Also, those people are standing right next to each other, and people were sitting at dining tables together.



Good try, though.

I guess you haven't actually been to a playground. Because if you had been, you would see that people stand right next to each other. Parents and nannies stand and chat, kids play -- there is no social distancing. I don't know what magic dust you think is sprinkled over playgrounds, but it's clear they are going to be places that spread the virus.

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Anonymous wrote:We are following the VA guidelines but that still lets us have Outdoor play dates, indoor play dates with one friend, little league, swim team lap swimming, soccer camp in two weeks, etc.

Same. We are following our state’s guidance - playgrounds are open as is other outdoor activities. They can meet up with individual friends outside. No big groups. Kids are 11 and 9

Look how that worked out on Texas and Florida. Be smart.

Yes, it's that playground-spread that's driving Texas and Florida's numbers.

It's too bad we can't have a mature conversation. If you have information that COVID avoids playgrounds, share it. I've been to parks and playgrounds recently because we have been going stir crazy, and people are idiots. From what I can see, yes, it is likely there will be COVID19 spread at playgrounds.

Kids have been playing at playgrounds for a month. Name all the outbreaks.

But it was outside, surely it should have been ok.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-virus-didnt-stop-a-washington-socialite-from-throwing-a-backyard-soiree-then-the-tests-came-back-positive/2020/07/01/841041ba-ba19-11ea-bdaf-a129f921026f_story.html

Not enough details to know if they got sick at the party, actually, or if it was all outside. Also, those people are standing right next to each other, and people were sitting at dining tables together.



Good try, though.

I guess you haven't actually been to a playground. Because if you had been, you would see that people stand right next to each other. Parents and nannies stand and chat, kids play -- there is no social distancing. I don't know what magic dust you think is sprinkled over playgrounds, but it's clear they are going to be places that spread the virus.[/quote]

and yet no reports of this, worldwide.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we are being very cautious overall. Probably in the, say, 85th percentile in the US-- maybe more. We don't even go into buildings other than our house, except on rare occasions and then masked and for <5 minutes. And even then, it's just me.

We have now allowed a couple of masked and distanced and outdoor and supervised (kids are 7) play dates. All of those precautions, in tandem. Oh, and only with a similarly cautious family, but you can't police that. I don't feel perfectly comfortable, honestly, but I've weighed the approximate risk and I think it's small and that the activity is important for our extroverted only child. I am not willing to do more, and keeping an eye on the rising case count, rising positive test percentage and seemingly stalling death count. It doesn't look great.

I'm also really frustrated with people framing this as a "mind your business" personal choice. Most people who would post here probably AREN'T at high risk. And it's misguided to try and scare people on DCUM into thinking they'll end up on a ventilator. But this isn't really a "do what's right for your family" situation! Or that should only be a small consideration. If you and your family get a mild case, you can still pass it along to essential workers and their elderly family members and so on... that's literally the whole danger of this virus.

Agree- individual actions do impact everyone else. I think this is why our numbers are so high; so many people have the attitude of I don't like masks so I won't wear one, it's my choice etc... I'm happy to be mildly uncomfortable for 20 minutes in a store if it prevents my neighbor or the store clerk from dying or spending weeks in the ICU.

If everyone would have taken this seriously from the get go we could have been in such a better place as a country by now.

And side note- I'm guessing many posters here are in a higher risk group but don't think of themselves that way. I'm in my thirties, slim, I eat healthy and work out but I have high blood controlled by medication. It's genetic, and makes me more vulnerable. Looking around at the average people I see in the community I can say with certainty that obesity is VERY common, also a risk factor. Add in type 2 diabetes and autoimmune diseases... Not sure why so many people feel they are low risk.

* and to the who are super healthy - my coworker (37M, fit, no health issues, 2 young kids & a lovely wife) is in a coma now in the ICU. They expect he will pass in next day or two from COVID. Yes we all die but this is a disease we have the ability to prevent spreading - WEAR A MASK AND STAY HOME IF YOU CAN

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Anonymous wrote:We have a 6 year old, a 4 year old, and a 2 month old. We are only doing outside play dates with masks on with one family. Kids have been trained not to touch each other and keep masks on. We also do playgrounds if the playground is empty (will go to a field if not. I have 3 friends who come by once month in my driveway outside and we stay more than six feet apart and wear masks. Otherwise the kids and us are totally and completely social distancing. Husband goes to grocery store once every two weeks. At this point we’ve been doing this for close to 5 months. I feel bad but I don’t want to contribute to the spread, nor do I want to die alone in a hospital. Or even be alone in a hospital for a week.

Your kids lives are over. Please go tell them this is their existence for the next 18 months, and see how they react.

You realize your kids are pretty lucky if their biggest problem is staying home and only socializing virtually right? It's not forever and it's people like you that are making this worse. Deal with it and stop thinking you and your kid should get a pass on socializing, YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL. Get it together so this gets under control and then we can all get back to normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I seriously feel bad for some of you. The level of anxiety disorder you must have to be borderline shut ins must be hard to live with.

All these kids I know hanging out and no one has corona yet. Lol

I have a friend who is a nurse at INOVA. She is exhausted. I think it’s insanely rude to our local medical staff to take silly risks. My older kid is allowed to bike with the neighbor kids, but nothing indoors, or within six feet. When we go on
hikes, we wear masks when within six feet of others. We have double bubbled with my parents, so we don’t wear masks around them. Yes, it’s sad for my kids. But it would be sadder if my nurse friend caught Coronavirus and suffered major organ damage.

I am a nurse at Inova Fairfax. I am not exhausted. Our case load is way down and treatment with the antivirals is effective. Not sure what’s going on with your imaginary “friend”, but my coworkers and I all want back to full time in person.

What antivirals are you using successfully? That's big news! Please share as most MDs are saying they haven't found effective treatments yet!

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My kid plays outside with a few kids on our street. No one goes in houses or shares food. The parents have all been working from home and we all basically go to the same grocery stores so we finally decided to let her play.