Social Distancing and my kids' sanity: what are you guys doing - honestly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

No, you cannot "appropriately judge risk." I'm so sick of people acting proud of living normally, as if we aren't skyrocketing with COVID19 cases in this country while other countries are managing to get a grip on it. No American has a right to be proud of not taking the virus seriously. You are the weakest links in this country and you're bringing us all down, and making us all suffer the economic consequences of your stupid, weak and selfish choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

+1000 People like this ruin it for all of us. We're doing our part, going without so we can get rid of this virus while they're living normally, taking advantage of our hard work and sacrifices.
The level of selfishness and entitlement of this poster is astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The level of selfishness and entitlement of this poster is astonishing.

+1000 People like this ruin it for all of us. We're doing our part, going without so we can get rid of this virus while they're living normally, taking advantage of our hard work and sacrifices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

No, you cannot "appropriately judge risk." I'm so sick of people acting proud of living normally, as if we aren't skyrocketing with COVID19 cases in this country while other countries are managing to get a grip on it. No American has a right to be proud of not taking the virus seriously. You are the weakest links in this country and you're bringing us all down, and making us all suffer the economic consequences of your stupid, weak and selfish choices.

Someone ran out of Xanax.

Wear a mask and go to the pharmacy, pp. It’s low risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The part of the risk equation you left out is how your choices impact others so while you may not be at great risk - you could contract it and spread it to someone who is at greater risk or to someone who is low risk but for some unknown reason gets a severe case and that spreading by you or anyone else you share it with has consequences for the whole of society. That’s why you are a horrible person because you only think in terms of yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

No, you cannot "appropriately judge risk." I'm so sick of people acting proud of living normally, as if we aren't skyrocketing with COVID19 cases in this country while other countries are managing to get a grip on it. No American has a right to be proud of not taking the virus seriously. You are the weakest links in this country and you're bringing us all down, and making us all suffer the economic consequences of your stupid, weak and selfish choices.

Someone ran out of Xanax.

Wear a mask and go to the pharmacy, pp. It’s low risk.

The PP who posted about being able to appropriately judge risk is an idiot. Guess which risk you aren't appropriately judging? The risk that everything, including schools, gets shut back down again here. What you think about the danger of the virus is irrelevant. What matters is what the governor and local health officials think about it. If they see cases going back up, they will act. And you will be the first one complaining that you can't "go out as normal". Seriously, get a clue. The. virus. doesn't. care. about. your. opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

No, you cannot "appropriately judge risk." I'm so sick of people acting proud of living normally, as if we aren't skyrocketing with COVID19 cases in this country while other countries are managing to get a grip on it. No American has a right to be proud of not taking the virus seriously. You are the weakest links in this country and you're bringing us all down, and making us all suffer the economic consequences of your stupid, weak and selfish choices.

Someone ran out of Xanax.

Wear a mask and go to the pharmacy, pp. It’s low risk.

The PP who posted about being able to appropriately judge risk is an idiot. Guess which risk you aren't appropriately judging? The risk that everything, including schools, gets shut back down again here. What you think about the danger of the virus is irrelevant. What matters is what the governor and local health officials think about it. If they see cases going back up, they will act. And you will be the first one complaining that you can't "go out as normal". Seriously, get a clue. The. virus. doesn't. care. about. your. opinion.

Maybe Prozac + Xanax?

The idiot is the lady taking her ill family members to Costco, not the healthy lady walking outside without a mask.

[Anonymous]

We are not quarantining this virus away. Only to contain it.

There is a medium ground between cruising bars and getting together with small groups of friends.

It is amazing people think this. I guess you will learn in the coming year.

[Anonymous]

We let our kids play with a small group of kids in the neighborhood starring at the end of May. We were reassured by their parents that no one goes anywhere outside of grocery store trips. Well guess what, they are all seeing grandparents and other sets of friends. They are doing evening sports camps as well. Two of the moms told me that at some point their kids were sick for a day or two, but then felt better so went back out to play. I was told this weeks after said illnesses.
Now my kids are back to no contact with others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The part of the risk equation you left out is how your choices impact others so while you may not be at great risk - you could contract it and spread it to someone who is at greater risk or to someone who is low risk but for some unknown reason gets a severe case and that spreading by you or anyone else you share it with has consequences for the whole of society. That’s why you are a horrible person because you only think in terms of yourself.

You really don't get it. I understand the risk to myself and others. I am the one following guidelines from the CDC and VDH. You are the one that does not get it. I never saw anyone from CDC or VDH tell us to shelter in place until there is a vaccine. Can you show me an article that states that?

The whole point of the shutdown was to flatten the curve not eliminate the virus. You really need to learn how to better understand risk and not just be scared of what you see on the news that sensationalizes topics for ratings. Let me guess, when you see a shark attack you get scared and tell your family they can never go to the beach even though shark attacks are extremely rare. Do you also hunker down in your pa ic room when you see lightning?

[Anonymous]

We view summer as a window of opportunity for socializing and having some fun as well as things like personal care. We are out several times a week. Masks indoors, not outdoors unless in long, close proximity.

We are following the laws-- our state is still pretty strict -- and watch our local numbers closely.

Once winter hits we hope to be ready to endure another lockdown. With the way Trump has screwed everything up we are expecting it.

[Anonymous]

My kids are a bit younger. However, their experience since March has been as follows:

- No indoor places (stores - grocery or otherwise, kids' play spaces, restaurants, etc.)
- Avoidance of crowded outdoor spaces (i.e., beach drive on the weekend)
- Masks whenever in an outdoor public space, like hiking trails. The only time masks are not worn outdoors is if we are walking in suburbia and can cross the street when others approach or if we are in a deserted area of a state park.
- Visits to their friends a few times: wearing masks, we'll stop by to chat for while from about 20 feet away, staying outside on the street or driveway.
- Daily outdoor activities: a lot of hiking, swimming, bike riding, exploring state parks, tent/backpack or car camping, etc.

I am not high risk. My parents, who are high risk, do not see us or the kids to limit their exposure despite the precautions above. I take the precautions above because I don't want to get sick, or have my kids get sick, and inadvertently kill someone else I exposed in the grocery store or elsewhere because I was irresponsible and selfish. I don't have anxiety about it, I am not a hand-wringer, this is just common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The part of the risk equation you left out is how your choices impact others so while you may not be at great risk - you could contract it and spread it to someone who is at greater risk or to someone who is low risk but for some unknown reason gets a severe case and that spreading by you or anyone else you share it with has consequences for the whole of society. That’s why you are a horrible person because you only think in terms of yourself.

You really don't get it. I understand the risk to myself and others. I am the one following guidelines from the CDC and VDH. You are the one that does not get it. I never saw anyone from CDC or VDH tell us to shelter in place until there is a vaccine. Can you show me an article that states that?

The whole point of the shutdown was to flatten the curve not eliminate the virus. You really need to learn how to better understand risk and not just be scared of what you see on the news that sensationalizes topics for ratings. Let me guess, when you see a shark attack you get scared and tell your family they can never go to the beach even though shark attacks are extremely rare. Do you also hunker down in your pa ic room when you see lightning?

I'm not afraid, I'm a decent considerate human being. The fact that you cannot see that tells me that you cannot conceive of altering anything you do if the outcome doesn't affect you personally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The part of the risk equation you left out is how your choices impact others so while you may not be at great risk - you could contract it and spread it to someone who is at greater risk or to someone who is low risk but for some unknown reason gets a severe case and that spreading by you or anyone else you share it with has consequences for the whole of society. That’s why you are a horrible person because you only think in terms of yourself.

You really don't get it. I understand the risk to myself and others. I am the one following guidelines from the CDC and VDH. You are the one that does not get it. I never saw anyone from CDC or VDH tell us to shelter in place until there is a vaccine. Can you show me an article that states that?

The whole point of the shutdown was to flatten the curve not eliminate the virus. You really need to learn how to better understand risk and not just be scared of what you see on the news that sensationalizes topics for ratings. Let me guess, when you see a shark attack you get scared and tell your family they can never go to the beach even though shark attacks are extremely rare. Do you also hunker down in your pa ic room when you see lightning?

I'm not afraid, I'm a decent considerate human being. The fact that you cannot see that tells me that you cannot conceive of altering anything you do if the outcome doesn't affect you personally.

I'm not afraid, either. In fact, I'm a huge risk taker. I also care about my fellow man. I love my country and I want to see it succeed. Instead I'm watching idiots act like bravery and patriotism means not wearing a mask, when we all know that if we just wore them, we could get back to regular life. Instead we are going to be battling this disease long after our competitors beat it and get on with improving their economies. Our economy is doomed thanks to fools not wearing masks.

This country is so fuc<ed.>

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answers on this thread remind me of college. You know the kids that were never allowed out or to do anything in high school, then they get to college on their own. Who would have guessed they party hard, don't study, and end up dropping out during freshman year.

To answer the OPs original question, the family and I are out pretty much as normal. We go to restaurants and stores. The kids have had multiple play dates with different friends. I wear a masks in stores since that is required, but we do not wear masks when we are outside exercising or walking.

The difference between the posters that don't do anything and me is that I can appropriately judge risk. My family is low risk, but the in-laws are not. So we don't hang out with them. Your kids are more likely to be killed in a car accident than killed or seriously injured by COVID-19. In 2017-18 187 children died from the regular flu. We haven't hit those numbers yet. So if you are scared of your kids dying you should be locking them in the house every winter. Plus the overall rate for death is low. When you look at the deaths from COVID-19 almost half the deaths are from 75+ year olds. Another quarter of the deaths are 65-74 years old. The next quarter of deaths are between 45-64 years old. I imagine if you break that down there would be a much higher rate as you get towards 60. My whole family has no real risk or fear of the disease. I know people will say but what about the permanent lung damage... but that generally doesn't happen.

The part of the risk equation you left out is how your choices impact others so while you may not be at great risk - you could contract it and spread it to someone who is at greater risk or to someone who is low risk but for some unknown reason gets a severe case and that spreading by you or anyone else you share it with has consequences for the whole of society. That’s why you are a horrible person because you only think in terms of yourself.

You really don't get it. I understand the risk to myself and others. I am the one following guidelines from the CDC and VDH. You are the one that does not get it. I never saw anyone from CDC or VDH tell us to shelter in place until there is a vaccine. Can you show me an article that states that?

The whole point of the shutdown was to flatten the curve not eliminate the virus. You really need to learn how to better understand risk and not just be scared of what you see on the news that sensationalizes topics for ratings. Let me guess, when you see a shark attack you get scared and tell your family they can never go to the beach even though shark attacks are extremely rare. Do you also hunker down in your pa ic room when you see lightning?

I'm not afraid, I'm a decent considerate human being. The fact that you cannot see that tells me that you cannot conceive of altering anything you do if the outcome doesn't affect you personally.

I'm not afraid, either. In fact, I'm a huge risk taker. I also care about my fellow man. I love my country and I want to see it succeed. Instead I'm watching idiots act like bravery and patriotism means not wearing a mask, when we all know that if we just wore them, we could get back to regular life. Instead we are going to be battling this disease long after our competitors beat it and get on with improving their economies. Our economy is doomed thanks to fools not wearing masks.

This country is so fuc<ed.>

People ARE wearing masks. Even the pp is wearing a mask. What are you talking about?