Pike's Statue DC

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Anonymous wrote:Very disturbing. Can we all spray paint the streets with whatever we want and tear down whatever we want? Such ignorance on display.

+ a million.

And the sad part is that our local government is promoting such vandalism.

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Thanks to state and local government officials breaking their oaths to uphold and defend the laws of their respective jurisdictions, these unlawful mobs will only grow bolder. Already, some PP is suggesting using dynamite for larger edifices. What line has to be crossed before people really wake up? Firebombing the Washington Monument? We’ve already started descending on a slippery and dangerous slope.

You're expressing similar concern about unlawful behavior by the police towards the people they're sworn to serve and protect, right?

Absolutely. I think you'd find that people who are against mob rule are also against police abuse of power. Whats confusing or contradictory about that?

It's interesting, though - the things people choose to speak up about. Don't you think? Some people speak up about people. Some people speak up about statues.

Instead of expending your creative energy playing all cute and smug, why don't you actually read what posters above have raised? Posters are speaking up about laws -- laws which are made by people and are upheld by people; laws which can change over time as society and societal values change.

You can do better.

Go ahead and keep prioritizing things done to statues over things done to people.

It seems you can’t do better. Oh, well.

Funny. It seems you are the one that can’t do better.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is allowed theres no end. Such ignorant behavior. We are a land of laws or we are not.

Do you even know how "laws" are created?

Yes, laws are passed. There had been previous attemots to legislate the removal of the statue. They failed. You keep trying. Thats called being a nation of laws. We dont all get what we want when we want automatically or by force. Thats called anarchy, or in the hands of a few - oligarchy, faciscim or dictatorship.

Right. People can’t be allowed to just tear down things they don’t like. What would have happened if it was anything other than a statue? I saw a video of a bicyclist tearing down BLM posters. He lost his job and was arrested and rightfully so.

No ... that was because he put his hands on a child that wasn’t his own.

They were not children. They were adults over the age of 18. What he did was wrong, but don't distort the facts.

Distorting then tact’s is saying he was arrested and fired for tearing down flyers. He was arrested and fired for assaulting people.

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The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

"We," who? I'm talking about George Floyd and defunding the police. You can too, if you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

"We," who? I'm talking about George Floyd and defunding the police. You can too, if you want to.

I do, but these statue topplings are add-on issues from fringe groups that are a huge distraction to any national conversation about police reform. They are totally deflating "the cause". Most people can get behind police reform, most people aren't going to get behind randomly pulling down statues--like the Taliban blowing up the the Buddha wonders of the world that offended them. It's just not happening. If you are truly committed to police reform, I'd advise putting a lot of distance between you and these fringe elements. If you are not, and just want to see stuff burn, have at it. But you're not actually changing the world in a positive way.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

"We," who? I'm talking about George Floyd and defunding the police. You can too, if you want to.

I do, but these statue topplings are add-on issues from fringe groups that are a huge distraction to any national conversation about police reform. They are totally deflating "the cause". Most people can get behind police reform, most people aren't going to get behind randomly pulling down statues--like the Taliban blowing up the the Buddha wonders of the world that offended them. It's just not happening. If you are truly committed to police reform, I'd advise putting a lot of distance between you and these fringe elements. If you are not, and just want to see stuff burn, have at it. But you're not actually changing the world in a positive way.

Because pulling down the Albert Pike statue is just like blowing up the 1,500-year-old Bamiyan Buddhas?

It's not.

Here's how to not get distracted by statues: focus on police reform.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

"We," who? I'm talking about George Floyd and defunding the police. You can too, if you want to.

I do, but these statue topplings are add-on issues from fringe groups that are a huge distraction to any national conversation about police reform. They are totally deflating "the cause". Most people can get behind police reform, most people aren't going to get behind randomly pulling down statues--like the Taliban blowing up the the Buddha wonders of the world that offended them. It's just not happening. If you are truly committed to police reform, I'd advise putting a lot of distance between you and these fringe elements. If you are not, and just want to see stuff burn, have at it. But you're not actually changing the world in a positive way.

Because pulling down the Albert Pike statue is just like blowing up the 1,500-year-old Bamiyan Buddhas?

It's not.

Here's how to not get distracted by statues: focus on police reform.

of course it is. it is exactly the same. And focus on police reform? Discussion has moved on.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

"We," who? I'm talking about George Floyd and defunding the police. You can too, if you want to.

I do, but these statue topplings are add-on issues from fringe groups that are a huge distraction to any national conversation about police reform. They are totally deflating "the cause". Most people can get behind police reform, most people aren't going to get behind randomly pulling down statues--like the Taliban blowing up the the Buddha wonders of the world that offended them. It's just not happening. If you are truly committed to police reform, I'd advise putting a lot of distance between you and these fringe elements. If you are not, and just want to see stuff burn, have at it. But you're not actually changing the world in a positive way.

Because pulling down the Albert Pike statue is just like blowing up the 1,500-year-old Bamiyan Buddhas?

It's not.

Here's how to not get distracted by statues: focus on police reform.

of course it is. it is exactly the same. And focus on police reform? Discussion has moved on.

The discussion hasn't moved on, although you're certainly trying to get it to, for reasons of your own. Police reform is still what we're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:The rioting, looting and statue tearing have become what we are what we are talking about. Not george floyd and police reform. Way to water down an issue and a movement! I cant believe anyone concerned with social justice sees these clowns as allies.

Yes I can not leave my house because of the rioting, looting and statue tearing down.