FCV, Arlington Girls, and Metro United going to Girls Academy

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Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

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Im sorry you must be mistaken my interest or intent with some other parent thinking their kid is going to play for UNC because they have a patch of DA or ECNL. Personally I would rather my kid not play college Div 1 soccer so your whole argument has no meaning. I didnt take her to Arlington DA for a patch. Her ability and their interest in her led her there. Now that its over its not particularly important to me that she has an ECNL or a GAL patch at all. She will start wherever she goes, that I know. What it leads to in college I could care less.

Based on these two primary criteria for your stated team/club preference, then either her ability dropped or the interest in her by ASA dropped which is causing the move. Or you don't have a good handle on the situation and are irrationally panicking. If the first part is true and she's now a marginal player, then you're really going to have a hard time breaking in somewhere else. No tryout option right now so I guess you could use the DA patch to vouch for her.

If this is not about a college scholarship (which at most would pay 1/4 tuition and no room & board), then why create all of the drama and upheaval? The only difference that is clear is the patch. Everyone is trying to do what is right and avoid regret, but is this about you or her?

[Anonymous]

Can someone post a new thread to know what's happening on the boys side.

The girls' parents are just too whinny. I can't take it!

[Anonymous]

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Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on fellow ECNL'ers! Now is the time to bring over all the ex-DA players we can. May 1st is Friday. Can't wait!

So honestly, what percentage of ex-DA players do you think will make ECNL? How much ECNL do you think will get bumped?

Honestly, 100% of the DA players can make a ECNL team.

What a dumb question.

The question should be how many will bother trying?

Enjoy your new league.

ECNL should have done the right thing and rolled all the DAs in when they had the chance. Sorry but it doesn’t look like a talent infusion for your mediocre non-champions league team.

How is that “the right thing” in this case? If you roll every DA in, why not national league teams too?

Umm,because National League didn't have their league blown up by US Soccer? Isn't it obvious why they made the suggestion they did? SMDH

So you have a new league now. You can still call yourselves special. The DA tried to put ECNL out of business. ECNL is supposed to then turn around and bail the DA out?

Correction, US soccer tried to put the ECNL out of business. The clubs made a choice to participate in DA based on the flawed assumption that US soccer had stamina and credibility. Again, there’s a lot more reason for ECNL to have taken the former DA clubs than not to. There’s no reason to take National League clubs in, which was your original statement. Stop moving the goalposts. ECNL has been “special” for quite some time, and there’s no one more “special” on this forum than ECNL parents...

Not moving the goalposts. Ex-DA clubs have a league. The best league. GAL! They don’t need ECNL.

No, ex DA clubs have a league that remains mostly the same as last year with more family friendly rules to match ECNL. That is it. Your kid has a team and league to play in and ex DA kids have a team and league to play in now. Why does that bother you?

It does not. It’s good your DD still has a league and a team. My question is Why is national league excluded from the list of clubs that ECNL should’ve “done the right thing for” and let into ecnl? They’re also a nationwide league and didn’t try to put the ecnl out of business.

And the answer was that National League is still a thing, but DA was no more. Yes, there is GA now, but there was, for a time, a vacuum left by US Soccer that ECNL could have chosen to fill very simply by adding the former DA clubs. End of story, ECNL becomes the undisputed king of "elite" and everybody wins. Now, the waters are still muddy, with many clubs and kids choosing to stay with their teams in a competing league. In any case, National League teams still have a home and didn't have their league wrecked by US Soccer. There's no overriding reason they would or should have been considered for addition to ECNL in bulk.

The waters are muddy? Did Penn Fusion and Charlotte know that? What about Pipeline? It appears one league is now ELITE and one league has a few ELITE clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

They are tiered meaning there is little reason for the P5 coaches to wonder far. If your kid isn’t killing it against kids in a Champions League level team sorry but she is just “killing it” against above average travel teams. But, I presume your DD hasn’t played and killed it against a top Champions level team to know the difference.

But feel free to tell us all the P5 coaches who are lining your North America Cup, Showcase or Open level games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone post a new thread to know what's happening on the boys side.

The girls' parents are just too whinny. I can't take it!

there's a "new topic" button up top

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Im sorry you must be mistaken my interest or intent with some other parent thinking their kid is going to play for UNC because they have a patch of DA or ECNL. Personally I would rather my kid not play college Div 1 soccer so your whole argument has no meaning. I didnt take her to Arlington DA for a patch. Her ability and their interest in her led her there. Now that its over its not particularly important to me that she has an ECNL or a GAL patch at all. She will start wherever she goes, that I know. What it leads to in college I could care less.

Based on these two primary criteria for your stated team/club preference, then either her ability dropped or the interest in her by ASA dropped which is causing the move. Or you don't have a good handle on the situation and are irrationally panicking. If the first part is true and she's now a marginal player, then you're really going to have a hard time breaking in somewhere else. No tryout option right now so I guess you could use the DA patch to vouch for her.

If this is not about a college scholarship (which at most would pay 1/4 tuition and no room & board), then why create all of the drama and upheaval? The only difference that is clear is the patch. Everyone is trying to do what is right and avoid regret, but is this about you or her?

funny how you seem to know my situation and frame of mind. Can I be any clearer, Id prefer she does not play Soccer in college at any level. No interest in your gracious 1/4 tuition scholarship. She was recruited to play there and wanted to go on her own. Now she will go elsewhere not GAL. Why do you seem so bothered by this.
All this drama and upheaval you make note of seems to be with yourself. It doesnt exist in my household. She is perfectly fine with her decision as am I. Sorry if you were expecting your starting 11 to return but its not happening.
Its not the first time your daughter lost a teammate on her roster and it wont be the last. Seems that is the drama and upheaval that worries you. As for your your assessment of my daughters role and skill set like the rest of your post its not accurate. That is of course if your highly respected scouting assessment sees one of the starting 11 in that way.
Dont worry and get all worked up, It will all work out for you and you wont even care once things get underway. For now your concern about a player leaving the team for whatever reason they have seems to be personal for you. Youll get over it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

They are tiered meaning there is little reason for the P5 coaches to wonder far. If your kid isn’t killing it against kids in a Champions League level team sorry but she is just “killing it” against above average travel teams. But, I presume your DD hasn’t played and killed it against a top Champions level team to know the difference.

But feel free to tell us all the P5 coaches who are lining your North America Cup, Showcase or Open level games.

I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

They are tiered meaning there is little reason for the P5 coaches to wonder far. If your kid isn’t killing it against kids in a Champions League level team sorry but she is just “killing it” against above average travel teams. But, I presume your DD hasn’t played and killed it against a top Champions level team to know the difference.

But feel free to tell us all the P5 coaches who are lining your North America Cup, Showcase or Open level games.

your feeble deductions and ad hominem arguments betray your credibility on an anonymous public forum. good luck with your arrogant attitude, I hope it does not translate to your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

They are tiered meaning there is little reason for the P5 coaches to wonder far. If your kid isn’t killing it against kids in a Champions League level team sorry but she is just “killing it” against above average travel teams. But, I presume your DD hasn’t played and killed it against a top Champions level team to know the difference.

But feel free to tell us all the P5 coaches who are lining your North America Cup, Showcase or Open level games.

I feel sorry for you.

The patch is all you need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on fellow ECNL'ers! Now is the time to bring over all the ex-DA players we can. May 1st is Friday. Can't wait!

So honestly, what percentage of ex-DA players do you think will make ECNL? How much ECNL do you think will get bumped?

Honestly, 100% of the DA players can make a ECNL team.

What a dumb question.

The question should be how many will bother trying?

Enjoy your new league.

ECNL should have done the right thing and rolled all the DAs in when they had the chance. Sorry but it doesn’t look like a talent infusion for your mediocre non-champions league team.

I agree that ECNL should have done this, and not just because it was the right thing either. They should have done it for themselves because it was the smart thing. If, as soon as it became obvious US Soccer was dropping the DA, ECNL had opened their doors and blanket accepted all DA clubs then ECNL would have won too. They would have all the clubs, all the money, everybody would have to travel less, and ECNL would be the only game in town. Good for ECNL, good for ex-DA, good for kids, good for colleges, good all around.

But ECNL got greedy and thought they could cherry pick a handful of clubs they wanted and then pick up the best players from the other DA clubs when the league collapsed. Good for existing ECNL clubs, not so good for kids, bad for ex-DA clubs.

Very short-sighted of ECNL if you ask me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on fellow ECNL'ers! Now is the time to bring over all the ex-DA players we can. May 1st is Friday. Can't wait!

So honestly, what percentage of ex-DA players do you think will make ECNL? How much ECNL do you think will get bumped?

Honestly, 100% of the DA players can make a ECNL team.

What a dumb question.

The question should be how many will bother trying?

Enjoy your new league.

ECNL should have done the right thing and rolled all the DAs in when they had the chance. Sorry but it doesn’t look like a talent infusion for your mediocre non-champions league team.

I agree that ECNL should have done this, and not just because it was the right thing either. They should have done it for themselves because it was the smart thing. If, as soon as it became obvious US Soccer was dropping the DA, ECNL had opened their doors and blanket accepted all DA clubs then ECNL would have won too. They would have all the clubs, all the money, everybody would have to travel less, and ECNL would be the only game in town. Good for ECNL, good for ex-DA, good for kids, good for colleges, good all around.

But ECNL got greedy and thought they could cherry pick a handful of clubs they wanted and then pick up the best players from the other DA clubs when the league collapsed. Good for existing ECNL clubs, not so good for kids, bad for ex-DA clubs.

Very short-sighted of ECNL if you ask me.

Metro United struggled mightily across age groups; older Arlington girls the same. If you are to be serious, by "blanket accepting" DA clubs they would just be cheapening the brand. Nothing is forever. Some clubs may not survive ECNL's new framework, some in the future may replace. Kids changing clubs isn't hard. A league reformatting their operations would, while cheapening the brand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not many P5 schools hit games outside of the Champion's League.

So wrong. First off, 90% of the recruiting is done in showcases before the standings and champions cup berths become solidified. Secondly, scouts recruit players not teams. Not every stud is on a superstar team.

Those showcases are tiered don’t kid yourself.

Geez, have you ever even been to a showcase? Yes, they are tiered. But again, coaches come to see players, not teams. In general, college coaches have no idea what tier a player is playing in, much less do they care. They make their own evaluations of a player's skill level and calibrate that against the skill level of the players they are playing against. It's obviously more impressive if your player is killing it against top competition, but coaches know that is not always the case. The only exception to this occurs when a coach comes to a championship game to identify and attract players who have not already contacted them. That is a very small part of their recruiting.

They are tiered meaning there is little reason for the P5 coaches to wonder far. If your kid isn’t killing it against kids in a Champions League level team sorry but she is just “killing it” against above average travel teams. But, I presume your DD hasn’t played and killed it against a top Champions level team to know the difference.

But feel free to tell us all the P5 coaches who are lining your North America Cup, Showcase or Open level games.

your feeble deductions and ad hominem arguments betray your credibility on an anonymous public forum. good luck with your arrogant attitude, I hope it does not translate to your children.

And this disputes the fact that 80-90% of P5 schools recruit from Champions League level teams how?

Claiming ad hominem arguments does not an argument or a point make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Im sorry you must be mistaken my interest or intent with some other parent thinking their kid is going to play for UNC because they have a patch of DA or ECNL. Personally I would rather my kid not play college Div 1 soccer so your whole argument has no meaning. I didnt take her to Arlington DA for a patch. Her ability and their interest in her led her there. Now that its over its not particularly important to me that she has an ECNL or a GAL patch at all. She will start wherever she goes, that I know. What it leads to in college I could care less.

Based on these two primary criteria for your stated team/club preference, then either her ability dropped or the interest in her by ASA dropped which is causing the move. Or you don't have a good handle on the situation and are irrationally panicking. If the first part is true and she's now a marginal player, then you're really going to have a hard time breaking in somewhere else. No tryout option right now so I guess you could use the DA patch to vouch for her.

If this is not about a college scholarship (which at most would pay 1/4 tuition and no room & board), then why create all of the drama and upheaval? The only difference that is clear is the patch. Everyone is trying to do what is right and avoid regret, but is this about you or her?

funny how you seem to know my situation and frame of mind. Can I be any clearer, Id prefer she does not play Soccer in college at any level. No interest in your gracious 1/4 tuition scholarship. She was recruited to play there and wanted to go on her own. Now she will go elsewhere not GAL. Why do you seem so bothered by this.
All this drama and upheaval you make note of seems to be with yourself. It doesnt exist in my household. She is perfectly fine with her decision as am I. Sorry if you were expecting your starting 11 to return but its not happening.
Its not the first time your daughter lost a teammate on her roster and it wont be the last. Seems that is the drama and upheaval that worries you. As for your your assessment of my daughters role and skill set like the rest of your post its not accurate. That is of course if your highly respected scouting assessment sees one of the starting 11 in that way.
Dont worry and get all worked up, It will all work out for you and you wont even care once things get underway. For now your concern about a player leaving the team for whatever reason they have seems to be personal for you. Youll get over it

Girls' parents are so Catty! Love it!