How does Virginia Tech have such a high admissions rate?

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Anonymous wrote:It comes down to mathematics... which is why the rankings that depend on admission rates are stupid.

# of freshman

UVA - 4,000
JMU - 4,500
VaTech - 7,500



This is your answer. Now look at how many applicants to each.

And PP is right - that’s why USNews stopped using admit rate in their rankings two years ago.



Actually for a school that’s as large as Tech to have a class with a Freshman profile as high as Tech’s is rather unusual and speaks favorably on the school. They have a lot of spaces to fill yet they get enough applicants to have an average unweighted GPA of 3.9.


I'm quite sure that's a weighted average.



No. It’s definitely unweighted.


No, it's the weighted average. That's how VA schools report their data.



Yes, but they also report unweighted, and the website I looked out specifically said unweighted. Other VA schools I looked at had average GPA’s much lower
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Anonymous wrote:From https://irweb.ir.vt.edu/webtest/admission_data.aspx
You can run these reports for each school, but here are the two for VT overall and VT engineering.


VT Overall


Engineering Only



How do you get this info for other colleges?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It comes down to mathematics... which is why the rankings that depend on admission rates are stupid.

# of freshman

UVA - 4,000
JMU - 4,500
VaTech - 7,500



This is your answer. Now look at how many applicants to each.

And PP is right - that’s why USNews stopped using admit rate in their rankings two years ago.



Actually for a school that’s as large as Tech to have a class with a Freshman profile as high as Tech’s is rather unusual and speaks favorably on the school. They have a lot of spaces to fill yet they get enough applicants to have an average unweighted GPA of 3.9.


I'm quite sure that's a weighted average.



No. It’s definitely unweighted.


No, it's the weighted average. That's how VA schools report their data.



Yes, but they also report unweighted, and the website I looked out specifically said unweighted. Other VA schools I looked at had average GPA’s much lower


Then I suspect a data error in the website you looked at. It's definitely weighted.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:From https://irweb.ir.vt.edu/webtest/admission_data.aspx
You can run these reports for each school, but here are the two for VT overall and VT engineering.


VT Overall


Engineering Only



How do you get this info for other colleges?


Google. Easier to find for public colleges. Some (like VT) have really antiquated systems and you have to really dig. This is a newer format for them. Thy used to make you download an excel file with just numbers in it and you had to do all the math on the percentages.

What College are you looking for? Happy to help you find it.
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Whomever posted the graphs thank you! The most obvious question is - Why is there such a low number of student applying to the College of Engineering relative to the number of students that were offered/accepted?
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Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."
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Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.


You and I are in the minority on the one. I will never understand the obsession with getting in, when getting out is what matters.
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Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.
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Anonymous wrote:Tech has a 70% admissions rate, yet the average NON WEIGHTED GPA is a 3.9. I see lots of schools with much lower acceptance rates where the average gpa/SAT score is much lower than Techs. This just does not make any sense.


Because 7 out of 10 kids who apply get accepted. That's why.
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Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.


This. It is well known that VT is a common safety school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.


This. It is well known that VT is a common safety school.


JMU has a 30% yield also. GMU a 23% yield. I don't know why you would think VT has any higher? UVA 's has gone up from upper 30s to 40%. These are just very common yield rates. Kids apply to and are accepted to a lot of schools and they choose the one that fits their finances and goals most. Nothing special about VT's yield rates.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.


This. It is well known that VT is a common safety school.


I'd agree 30% yield has become fairly normal. The number of schools kids apply to has increased significantly. They can only enroll at one. Overall yield must go down. A quick look at SCHEV website shows overall yield at Virginia public universities went from 40% in 2004 to 27% in 2018. I didn't check all schools, but I wouldn't be surprised if overall yield is down at all of them.
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Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.


This. It is well known that VT is a common safety school.


JMU has a 30% yield also. GMU a 23% yield. I don't know why you would think VT has any higher? UVA 's has gone up from upper 30s to 40%. These are just very common yield rates. Kids apply to and are accepted to a lot of schools and they choose the one that fits their finances and goals most. Nothing special about VT's yield rates.


UVA has gone down over time as well. It was 54% in 2004 and 39% in 2018. If kids apply to more schools (which is easier with modern applications) overall yield has to go down.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Correction. I meant to say "enrolled" not "applied."


30% yield is fairly normal.


Maybe alot of kids are using VT as a safety school? I dont what else would explain only 30% actually following through and registering Freshman year.


This. It is well known that VT is a common safety school.


JMU has a 30% yield also. GMU a 23% yield. I don't know why you would think VT has any higher? UVA 's has gone up from upper 30s to 40%. These are just very common yield rates. Kids apply to and are accepted to a lot of schools and they choose the one that fits their finances and goals most. Nothing special about VT's yield rates.


UVA has gone down over time as well. It was 54% in 2004 and 39% in 2018. If kids apply to more schools (which is easier with modern applications) overall yield has to go down.


But UVA's ticked up from 37% to 40% over the past few years--not a big deal and I agree with your broader point of overall yield rates going down in the bigger picture--it's both modern application (Common, Coalition), more angst about college admissions, and more info with the internet.
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