Barr personally asked foreign intelligence officials to aid inquiry into US CIA, FBI officials

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Attorney General William Barr called President Trump in April with a question: What was Rudy Giuliani doing?”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tense-relationship-between-barr-and-giuliani-complicates-trump-impeachment-defense-11569942261?mod=mhp

The headline of that story is a big issue - "The president’s two highest-profile lawyers are struggling to get on the same page"

The Attorney General is NOT the President's lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Attorney General William Barr called President Trump in April with a question: What was Rudy Giuliani doing?”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tense-relationship-between-barr-and-giuliani-complicates-trump-impeachment-defense-11569942261?mod=mhp

The headline of that story is a big issue - "The president’s two highest-profile lawyers are struggling to get on the same page"

The Attorney General is NOT the President's lawyer.

And Giuliani has said that he's not the president's lawyer either. Admittedly, Giuliani has said all sorts of stuff, some of it contradictory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/7246ca01d5fc4444b0cc8ad65006c390

DOJ official said Trump initiated the calls at Barr’s request. The recent call with Australia was one of a “number of times” the president made similar calls for the AG as part of probe into the origins of the special counsel’s Russia investigation

Is this legal for the AG to coordinate investigation with Trump which politically benefit him?

Of course it is legal. Do you not think that investigating and impeaching Trump by various Democrats, using public funds and resources, will "politically benefit" them? Do you believe Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, et al are violating any law just because using public resources and public employees to investigate Trump is of "political benefit" to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Attorney General William Barr called President Trump in April with a question: What was Rudy Giuliani doing?”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tense-relationship-between-barr-and-giuliani-complicates-trump-impeachment-defense-11569942261?mod=mhp

Not long afterward, he booked his end-of-year party at the Trump Hotel. That's the definition of a tense relationship, in Opposite World.

A shakedown is what it sounds like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/7246ca01d5fc4444b0cc8ad65006c390

DOJ official said Trump initiated the calls at Barr’s request. The recent call with Australia was one of a “number of times” the president made similar calls for the AG as part of probe into the origins of the special counsel’s Russia investigation

Is this legal for the AG to coordinate investigation with Trump which politically benefit him?

Of course it is legal. Do you not think that investigating and impeaching Trump by various Democrats, using public funds and resources, will "politically benefit" them? Do you believe Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, et al are violating any law just because using public resources and public employees to investigate Trump is of "political benefit" to them?

But you're implying, as PP was, that Trump and Barr are the same entity. And they're not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the real story here is how fearful former Obama and FBI officials are. They seek to discredit AG Barr as AG/Durham learn more about the origins of the Trump probe. It’s almost like they have something to hide and don’t want it found.

Imagine for a second that this was AG Lynch traveling around asking foreign officials to debunk an FBI report her boss didn't like.

It's more than that. They're actually asking foreign governments to say that Russia didn't hack us n 2016 but rather that Obama did!

Obama was the President during the 2016 campaign, was apparently aware of the alleged Russian interference, yet did absolutely nothing to stop it. If it's true that Russian interference occurred, investigation of the Obama Administration's failure to do anything to stop it is indeed warranted. On the other hand, if there wasn't significant Russian interference, that would explain why Obama did nothing about it. In either case, there is nothing wrong with Barr requesting the assistance of foreign governments to get to the bottom of this. Just as Obama's use of foreign governmental resources to spy on the Trump campaign is possibly not illegal, although maybe it was illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/7246ca01d5fc4444b0cc8ad65006c390

DOJ official said Trump initiated the calls at Barr’s request. The recent call with Australia was one of a “number of times” the president made similar calls for the AG as part of probe into the origins of the special counsel’s Russia investigation

Is this legal for the AG to coordinate investigation with Trump which politically benefit him?

Of course it is legal. Do you not think that investigating and impeaching Trump by various Democrats, using public funds and resources, will "politically benefit" them? Do you believe Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, et al are violating any law just because using public resources and public employees to investigate Trump is of "political benefit" to them?

Maybe you don't know what the proper role of the AG and the DOJ is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Attorney General William Barr called President Trump in April with a question: What was Rudy Giuliani doing?”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tense-relationship-between-barr-and-giuliani-complicates-trump-impeachment-defense-11569942261?mod=mhp

The headline of that story is a big issue - "The president’s two highest-profile lawyers are struggling to get on the same page"

The Attorney General is NOT the President's lawyer.

Right. So this is a total "non story." Giulani and Barr have different clients. There is no reason to expect them to be "on the same page."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the real story here is how fearful former Obama and FBI officials are. They seek to discredit AG Barr as AG/Durham learn more about the origins of the Trump probe. It’s almost like they have something to hide and don’t want it found.

Imagine for a second that this was AG Lynch traveling around asking foreign officials to debunk an FBI report her boss didn't like.

It's more than that. They're actually asking foreign governments to say that Russia didn't hack us n 2016 but rather that Obama did!

Obama was the President during the 2016 campaign, was apparently aware of the alleged Russian interference, yet did absolutely nothing to stop it. If it's true that Russian interference occurred, investigation of the Obama Administration's failure to do anything to stop it is indeed warranted. On the other hand, if there wasn't significant Russian interference, that would explain why Obama did nothing about it. In either case, there is nothing wrong with Barr requesting the assistance of foreign governments to get to the bottom of this. Just as Obama's use of foreign governmental resources to spy on the Trump campaign is possibly not illegal, although maybe it was illegal.

He started a counter intelligence investigation (this is also known as the 'wiretapping' and FISA warrent mess muddied by Trump and currently being undermined by Rudy, Barr, Pompeo and others;
He levied additional sanctions on Russia, some of which have been undone by Trump;
He tried to issue a bi-partisan warning to the country - that McConnell refused to join.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the real story here is how fearful former Obama and FBI officials are. They seek to discredit AG Barr as AG/Durham learn more about the origins of the Trump probe. It’s almost like they have something to hide and don’t want it found.

Imagine for a second that this was AG Lynch traveling around asking foreign officials to debunk an FBI report her boss didn't like.

It's more than that. They're actually asking foreign governments to say that Russia didn't hack us n 2016 but rather that Obama did!

Obama was the President during the 2016 campaign, was apparently aware of the alleged Russian interference, yet did absolutely nothing to stop it. If it's true that Russian interference occurred, investigation of the Obama Administration's failure to do anything to stop it is indeed warranted. On the other hand, if there wasn't significant Russian interference, that would explain why Obama did nothing about it. In either case, there is nothing wrong with Barr requesting the assistance of foreign governments to get to the bottom of this. Just as Obama's use of foreign governmental resources to spy on the Trump campaign is possibly not illegal, although maybe it was illegal.

Facts are immaterial to you.

Obama did some things to stop it although was, as we can see, unable to do so. It's true that Russian interference occurred. Everyone has acknowledged that, from Mueller to Trump himself (in private, although not in public). We don't need to do more investigating, because we know how it all happened. Barr is not "requesting the assistance of foreign governments to get to the bottom of this". He is trying to get foreign governments to intervene on Trump's behalf, which is inappropriate for many reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Attorney General William Barr called President Trump in April with a question: What was Rudy Giuliani doing?”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tense-relationship-between-barr-and-giuliani-complicates-trump-impeachment-defense-11569942261?mod=mhp

The headline of that story is a big issue - "The president’s two highest-profile lawyers are struggling to get on the same page"

The Attorney General is NOT the President's lawyer.

Right. So this is a total "non story." Giulani and Barr have different clients. There is no reason to expect them to be "on the same page."

Giuliani has said he doesn't have any client at all. I guess you don't believe him...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, this was put out there to move your interest away from the real problem: Trump threatening to withhold military aid unless Ukraine helped him make dirt about his political opponent -- bad conduct.

All of that is unrelated to the Justice department conspiracy-theory probe into the origins of Russiagate. That investigation may be stupid and waste of money, but it probably isn't illegal.

Keep your eye on the ball and don't let them whip you up about the side-show. They really, really want to roll Ukraine into that, and it isn't the same thing at all.

Actually, that thing about the "dirt" was entirely fabricated by Adam Schiff in his opening statement to DNI Maguire's testimony. Later on during the hearing, Schiff claimed he wasn't "lying," it was simply his version of a "parody."

Yet the MSM are using Schiff's "lie/parody" of "digging up dirt" supposedly requested by Trump as the prevailing meme. And so are you.

Parodies are for clowns. Schiff is a clown. Are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, this was put out there to move your interest away from the real problem: Trump threatening to withhold military aid unless Ukraine helped him make dirt about his political opponent -- bad conduct.

All of that is unrelated to the Justice department conspiracy-theory probe into the origins of Russiagate. That investigation may be stupid and waste of money, but it probably isn't illegal.

Keep your eye on the ball and don't let them whip you up about the side-show. They really, really want to roll Ukraine into that, and it isn't the same thing at all.

Actually, that thing about the "dirt" was entirely fabricated by Adam Schiff in his opening statement to DNI Maguire's testimony. Later on during the hearing, Schiff claimed he wasn't "lying," it was simply his version of a "parody."

Yet the MSM are using Schiff's "lie/parody" of "digging up dirt" supposedly requested by Trump as the prevailing meme. And so are you.

Parodies are for clowns. Schiff is a clown. Are you?

It's what the whistleblower said. It's what I have inferred from reading the memo of the phone call as well as various news article through the summer.

There's no other reason to withhold the Ukrainian military aid. None. Absolutely no aboveboard reason for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, this was put out there to move your interest away from the real problem: Trump threatening to withhold military aid unless Ukraine helped him make dirt about his political opponent -- bad conduct.

All of that is unrelated to the Justice department conspiracy-theory probe into the origins of Russiagate. That investigation may be stupid and waste of money, but it probably isn't illegal.

Keep your eye on the ball and don't let them whip you up about the side-show. They really, really want to roll Ukraine into that, and it isn't the same thing at all.

Actually, that thing about the "dirt" was entirely fabricated by Adam Schiff in his opening statement to DNI Maguire's testimony. Later on during the hearing, Schiff claimed he wasn't "lying," it was simply his version of a "parody."

Yet the MSM are using Schiff's "lie/parody" of "digging up dirt" supposedly requested by Trump as the prevailing meme. And so are you.

Parodies are for clowns. Schiff is a clown. Are you?

You are willfully misrepresenting what was said and done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, this was put out there to move your interest away from the real problem: Trump threatening to withhold military aid unless Ukraine helped him make dirt about his political opponent -- bad conduct.

All of that is unrelated to the Justice department conspiracy-theory probe into the origins of Russiagate. That investigation may be stupid and waste of money, but it probably isn't illegal.

Keep your eye on the ball and don't let them whip you up about the side-show. They really, really want to roll Ukraine into that, and it isn't the same thing at all.

Actually, that thing about the "dirt" was entirely fabricated by Adam Schiff in his opening statement to DNI Maguire's testimony. Later on during the hearing, Schiff claimed he wasn't "lying," it was simply his version of a "parody."

Yet the MSM are using Schiff's "lie/parody" of "digging up dirt" supposedly requested by Trump as the prevailing meme. And so are you.

Parodies are for clowns. Schiff is a clown. Are you?

And, let's not forget that Nancy Pelosi then went on 60 Minutes and accused Trump of trying to get Ukraine to "create" information.

It is no surprise that the Democrats are making statements that simply are not true.