Just wrote our org’s paid leave policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

The most important thing is to never make positive change since things weren’t as good for people in the past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

That's like saying that I'm upset my employer offers short-term disability because I've never had surgery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

That's like saying that I'm upset my employer offers short-term disability because I've never had surgery.

Actually it’s like saying they shouldn’t have STD because you did have surgery without it.

Or that they shouldn’t get health insurance now because when you were sick you had to pay out of pocket.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

That's like saying that I'm upset my employer offers short-term disability because I've never had surgery.

Actually it’s like saying they shouldn’t have STD because you did have surgery without it.

Or that they shouldn’t get health insurance now because when you were sick you had to pay out of pocket.

Well the good thing is that the leave is offered to anyone who has a baby. Oh, your children are grown? Have another. Adoption is included if you are beyond child-bearing age or infertile. There you go, problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

Because god forbid you have practical people working for you! You think employers would rather have selfish employees instead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

This is what I think. What about calling it a sabbatical or something and you can use those 6 months to care for your child or go live in Italy and learn Italian. It just give people more leave and they can use it however they want.

That's like saying that I'm upset my employer offers short-term disability because I've never had surgery.

Exactly. Damn, Suzzie gets to take 6 months off for chemo. What a slacker. She also gets to wear kick-ass wigs and I'm stuck with my frizzy, curly hair.

My neighbor's kid is never going to in the working force contributing to science, medicine, law, hell even cleaning the streets or helping my old ass when I am 90. Why should I care if he is born?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

No. Best not to hire women under age 50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

No. Best not to hire women under age 50.

I'm sure a lot of misogynistic morons would love that, but it turns out that we are highly qualified, educated, smart and work our asses off. Kind of gets in the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of special leave for those who don't have children get? My children are grown and I want the same privileges you get just for having a baby. You have created a monster and resentment from other employees.

Nothing. Your work will have less work to do replacing employees who leave because of no maternity leave. But at least your children will get maternity/paternity leave. Not everything in life is fair.

No. The other employees will have to cover for you while on leave and then cover when you come back and take your pumping breaks. Believe me, this kind of special treatment creates resentment by other employees. All an employer has to do is keep a job open for you but it doesn't have to be the same job.

What's your point? I work for a company with mostly 50+ employees. I've covered for bunion surgeries, ACL tears, heart attacks, breast implants, you name it. Maternity leave is no different.

Pregnancy is a choice. Bunions are not a choice, nor is a heart attack or cancer and I know people who are not obese and have never smoked who have had heart attacks and lung csncer. Now, I would be happy to give extra paid leave if you have a seriously ill child, parent, or spouse but NOT FOR CHOISING TO HAVE A BSBY.

you seem ... unhinged. and like you hate women, a bit?

+1 Pregnancy is many times a choice, and it's an essential one for the furtherance of the human race. I'm sorry you don't care about the well-being of children, but the US is the only developed country without paid maternity leave and that's shameful and detrimental to both moms and babies (and presumably the fathers who care about them). And PS, while you may "know people" who don't smoke and get lung cancer, and people who are thin and fit and have heart attacks, everything about the way we live our lives is a choice. We don't allocate sick leave based upon how healthily people live their lives, and we shouldn't choose to make maternity leave available only to a lucky few.

New poster here.

Did you not see the post by a previous poster that said HER children suffered when she had to stay late at the office every day to pick up the co-worker's slack? Do you not care about the well being of ALL children, or just newborns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should you get full-time pay for working part-time after you’ve already gotten 3 months off paid? No need to be greedy. Goodness.

I’ve never had a leave shorter than 5 months. I really can’t imagine any shorter. 3 months is decent for America but freaking tough for actual moms.

I had to go back to work after 2 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Wow...all that time off for foster parents too. With many foster placements being very short term, you might have some employees that are off far more than they work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:* Gender-neutral paid leave for new parents of new children (includes biological, adopted and foster)
* Six months total: 3 months fully paid, 3 months of partially paid leave or return to work for 3 months part-time with full-time pay
* Same for medical leave
* 1 month caregiving leave

We’re a small org (less than 50 people), but they’re very serious about diversifying their staff and especially leadership and I told them
this is how you do it.

I wonder if you’re going to get the result you want. I think there’s a segment of the workforce that will like this but I don’t see it as universal by any means and I think a lot of people are going to resent it. I also think it’s going to be tough for a small organization to actually provide this.

Hey look, OP - an added benefit to your policy! You can easily identify those that are going to be crappy, resentful co-workers and not hire them in the first place. Win-win!

No. Best not to hire women under age 50.

I'm sure a lot of misogynistic morons would love that, but it turns out that we are highly qualified, educated, smart and work our asses off. Kind of gets in the way.

You forgot entitled and you do not work off anything except your mouths.