3.7% pay cut for DCPS teachers for SY 19-20

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is such an issue, teachers should try to get paid semi-monthly instead of bi-weekly. Then there will always be 24 pay periods no matter when school ends or starts. Problem solved.

Then all the teachers would be crying about being shorted two paychecks! They don't seem to understand the concept of an annual salary and varying pay schedules.

nonsense

[Anonymous]

Other employees at DCPS are not on an annual salary and they get paid for the weeks that they work. DCPS I suspect has a single payroll system, it is not that easy to just shift a week for half the employees. They could have skipped a pay period to make it work and provide a consistent paycheck. Folks would have complained about that too. They could have let everyone know that there would be two weeks without a paycheck in the summer of 2020. There is not an option that would make everyone happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is such an issue, teachers should try to get paid semi-monthly instead of bi-weekly. Then there will always be 24 pay periods no matter when school ends or starts. Problem solved.

Then all the teachers would be crying about being shorted two paychecks! They don't seem to understand the concept of an annual salary and varying pay schedules.

It just seems like this would solve all of the problems. Then dc will never have to worry about when summer starts and the school year starts.

And if teachers don’t understand that a salary can be divided by 24 or 26 and still be the same at the end, then I’m scared for our children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm looking in PeopleSoft right now. Here's the rundown of paychecks:

1. Check Date: 8/31 Period: 8/5 - 8/18, 40 hours admin leave (summer), 40 hours Regular Earning (start of school year)
2. Check Date: 9/14 Period: 8/19 - 9/1, 80 hours regular earning
3. Check Date: 9/28 Period 9/2 - 9/15
4. Check Date: 10/12 Period 9/16 - 9/29
5. Check Date: 10/26 Period 9/30 - 10/13
6. Check Date: 11/9 Period 10/14 - 10/27
7. Check Date: 11/23 Period 10/28 - 11/10
8. Check Date 12/7 Period 11/11 - 11/24
9. Check Date 12/21 Period 11/25 - 12/08
10. Check Date 1/04 Period 12/09 - 12/22
11. Check Date 1/18 Period 12/23 - 1/05
12. Check Date 2/1 Period 1/06 - 1/19
13. Check Date 2/15 Period 1/20 - 2/02
14. Check Date 3/1 Period 2/3 - 2/16
15. Check Date 3/15 Period 2/17 - 3/02
16. Check Date 3/29 Period 3/03 - 3/16
17. Check Date 4/12 Period 3/17 - 3/30
18. Check Date 4/26 Period 3/31 - 4/13
19. Check Date 5/10 Period 4/14 - 4/27
20. Check Date 5/24 Period 4/28 - 5/11
21. Check Date 6/7 Period 5/12 - 5/25
22. Check Date 6/21 Period 5/26 - 6/08

Summer checks (still to come, info from email from Timeandlabor on ). Trippy side note: you are not actually getting paid for these weeks. DCPS has already deducted money from the previous 22 checks (interest free!) so you can continue to receive roughly the same amount during the summer. You will see this noted on every pay stub as "Summer Pay Credit". Mine is over $10,000 so far.
23. Check Date 7/5, Period 6/10 - 6/23
24. Check Date 7/19, Period 6/23 - 7/6
25. Check Date 8/2, Period 7/7 - 7/20
26. Check Date 8/16, Period 7/21 - 8/3

As of August 16, you will have been paid for everything for the 2018-2019 school year. If you are like me, you would also like a paycheck two weeks after check #26, which normally would be check #1 for the 2019-2010 school year. It would look like this:

1. Check Date 8/30, Period 8/4 - 8/17.

Except if you are like me and a 10-month DCPS employee, you didn't actually work that time. So what are our choices?
1. Don't pay you for time time not worked. Hope you have money saved! Your first check of the 2019-2020 school year would be 9/13, for the period 8/19 -8/30.
2. Pay you EARLY for time you haven't actually worked, but will in the 2019-2020 school year.

I like #2 best. Not because I don't have money saved, but because I really like consistency (I know, DCPS really isn't the place for me, but that's a whole other thread!). Also, I can do division. Heck, it's standard algorithm, not even "Common Core" math! (Spoiler alert, that's just regular math...again, whole other thread!).

Ok, so we decided paying us in advance for work we promise to do is the best option. Here's what our checks now look like.

1. 8/30, Period 8/4 - 8/17 (remember, we haven't worked this yet)
2. 9/13, Period 8/18-8/30 (Yay for a new school year!)
3. 9/27, No longer going to type out pay periods because hopefully you see that it's always two weeks behind...
4. 10/11
5. 10/25
6. 11/8
7. 11/22
8. 12/6
9. 12/20
10. 1/3
11. 1/17
12. 1/31
13. 2/14
14. 2/28
15. 3/13
16. 3/27
17. 4/10
18. 4/24
19. 5/8
20. 5/22
21. 6/5
22. 6/19
23. 7/3
24. 7/10
25. 7/17
26. 7/31
27. 8/14

To finish, let's look at an example. Imagine you make a cool $100,000 a year. And you're one of the sad teachers in a "hold" year so you made $100,000 for 2018-2019 and you'll make $100,000 for 2019-2020.

$100,000 divided by 26 = $3,846.15
$100,000 divided by 27 = $3,703.70

$3,703 divided by $3,846 = 0.96281851
0.96281851 times 100 = 96.2818513
100 - 96.2818513 = 3.71814873 which means each check is 3.7% less with 27 pay checks than with 26.

But, spoiler alert, you still get $100,000 at the end of the year.

Except for taxes.
And pension.
And healthcare.
BUT, at least you don't have to pay union fees now!

Oh my. I realllly hope you're not a math teacher. Yes, each check is less when you're getting 27 instead of 26 because YOU ARE GETTING AN EXTRA PAYCHECK.

it's not an extra paycheck. It's more like a make-up paycheck for a pay period that DCPS is arbitrarily choosing not to pay.

what? it's an extra paycheck paid early in advance of the work being performed, with a pro-rata amount taken out of each subsequent paycheck. how is DCPS "arbitrarily chosing not to pay"? this is an income-smoothing measure taken because the school year starts later this year.

Ahhh "income smoothing" a wonderful euphemism for "we're cutting an entire pay period and then docking you 3.7% on your next 26 paychecks to make this seem like we're doing you a favor"

Seriously, you need to go back to school and learn to save. AS the previous teacher explained it's the same amount of money just cut differently. Sigh!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is such an issue, teachers should try to get paid semi-monthly instead of bi-weekly. Then there will always be 24 pay periods no matter when school ends or starts. Problem solved.

Then all the teachers would be crying about being shorted two paychecks! They don't seem to understand the concept of an annual salary and varying pay schedules.

It just seems like this would solve all of the problems. Then dc will never have to worry about when summer starts and the school year starts.

And if teachers don’t understand that a salary can be divided by 24 or 26 and still be the same at the end, then I’m scared for our children.

I agree with the people saying to consider this an annual salary.

But let's also remember that due to the calendar and how days fall from year to year, there are different numbers of work days for teachers in a year. It's not totally ridiculous to want to get paid based on the number of days you work.
But yes, "3.7%" is just wrong.

[Anonymous]

I refuse to believe this thread was started by a DCPS teacher.
If it was, thanks God my kids are not in DCPS.
Wow! Just wow!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to believe this thread was started by a DCPS teacher.
If it was, thanks God my kids are not in DCPS.
Wow! Just wow!!

It likely was stated by a teacher. One of the WTU president candidates sent an email about our %3.7 pay cut. I’m hoping his motivation to was create a fake problem (non existent pay-cut) that he could solve. Also, to the teachers credit DCPS did an awful job explaining this. They sent out an email that they immediately retracted & sent again. Lastly, we don’t have a lot of trust for central office. To be clear, I was one of the early posters insisting this wasn’t/isn’t a pay cut. But between the terrible rollout & fear mongering by WTU I see how we got here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is such an issue, teachers should try to get paid semi-monthly instead of bi-weekly. Then there will always be 24 pay periods no matter when school ends or starts. Problem solved.

Then all the teachers would be crying about being shorted two paychecks! They don't seem to understand the concept of an annual salary and varying pay schedules.

It just seems like this would solve all of the problems. Then dc will never have to worry about when summer starts and the school year starts.

And if teachers don’t understand that a salary can be divided by 24 or 26 and still be the same at the end, then I’m scared for our children.

I agree with the people saying to consider this an annual salary.

But let's also remember that due to the calendar and how days fall from year to year, there are different numbers of work days for teachers in a year. It's not totally ridiculous to want to get paid based on the number of days you work.
But yes, "3.7%" is just wrong.

So you're saying there isn't a specific number of days of work stated in the teacher's contract? I find that hard to believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking in PeopleSoft right now. Here's the rundown of paychecks:

1. Check Date: 8/31 Period: 8/5 - 8/18, 40 hours admin leave (summer), 40 hours Regular Earning (start of school year)
2. Check Date: 9/14 Period: 8/19 - 9/1, 80 hours regular earning
3. Check Date: 9/28 Period 9/2 - 9/15
4. Check Date: 10/12 Period 9/16 - 9/29
5. Check Date: 10/26 Period 9/30 - 10/13
6. Check Date: 11/9 Period 10/14 - 10/27
7. Check Date: 11/23 Period 10/28 - 11/10
8. Check Date 12/7 Period 11/11 - 11/24
9. Check Date 12/21 Period 11/25 - 12/08
10. Check Date 1/04 Period 12/09 - 12/22
11. Check Date 1/18 Period 12/23 - 1/05
12. Check Date 2/1 Period 1/06 - 1/19
13. Check Date 2/15 Period 1/20 - 2/02
14. Check Date 3/1 Period 2/3 - 2/16
15. Check Date 3/15 Period 2/17 - 3/02
16. Check Date 3/29 Period 3/03 - 3/16
17. Check Date 4/12 Period 3/17 - 3/30
18. Check Date 4/26 Period 3/31 - 4/13
19. Check Date 5/10 Period 4/14 - 4/27
20. Check Date 5/24 Period 4/28 - 5/11
21. Check Date 6/7 Period 5/12 - 5/25
22. Check Date 6/21 Period 5/26 - 6/08

Summer checks (still to come, info from email from Timeandlabor on ). Trippy side note: you are not actually getting paid for these weeks. DCPS has already deducted money from the previous 22 checks (interest free!) so you can continue to receive roughly the same amount during the summer. You will see this noted on every pay stub as "Summer Pay Credit". Mine is over $10,000 so far.
23. Check Date 7/5, Period 6/10 - 6/23
24. Check Date 7/19, Period 6/23 - 7/6
25. Check Date 8/2, Period 7/7 - 7/20
26. Check Date 8/16, Period 7/21 - 8/3

As of August 16, you will have been paid for everything for the 2018-2019 school year. If you are like me, you would also like a paycheck two weeks after check #26, which normally would be check #1 for the 2019-2010 school year. It would look like this:

1. Check Date 8/30, Period 8/4 - 8/17.

Except if you are like me and a 10-month DCPS employee, you didn't actually work that time. So what are our choices?
1. Don't pay you for time time not worked. Hope you have money saved! Your first check of the 2019-2020 school year would be 9/13, for the period 8/19 -8/30.
2. Pay you EARLY for time you haven't actually worked, but will in the 2019-2020 school year.

I like #2 best. Not because I don't have money saved, but because I really like consistency (I know, DCPS really isn't the place for me, but that's a whole other thread!). Also, I can do division. Heck, it's standard algorithm, not even "Common Core" math! (Spoiler alert, that's just regular math...again, whole other thread!).

Ok, so we decided paying us in advance for work we promise to do is the best option. Here's what our checks now look like.

1. 8/30, Period 8/4 - 8/17 (remember, we haven't worked this yet)
2. 9/13, Period 8/18-8/30 (Yay for a new school year!)
3. 9/27, No longer going to type out pay periods because hopefully you see that it's always two weeks behind...
4. 10/11
5. 10/25
6. 11/8
7. 11/22
8. 12/6
9. 12/20
10. 1/3
11. 1/17
12. 1/31
13. 2/14
14. 2/28
15. 3/13
16. 3/27
17. 4/10
18. 4/24
19. 5/8
20. 5/22
21. 6/5
22. 6/19
23. 7/3
24. 7/10
25. 7/17
26. 7/31
27. 8/14

To finish, let's look at an example. Imagine you make a cool $100,000 a year. And you're one of the sad teachers in a "hold" year so you made $100,000 for 2018-2019 and you'll make $100,000 for 2019-2020.

$100,000 divided by 26 = $3,846.15
$100,000 divided by 27 = $3,703.70

$3,703 divided by $3,846 = 0.96281851
0.96281851 times 100 = 96.2818513
100 - 96.2818513 = 3.71814873 which means each check is 3.7% less with 27 pay checks than with 26.

But, spoiler alert, you still get $100,000 at the end of the year.

Except for taxes.
And pension.
And healthcare.
BUT, at least you don't have to pay union fees now!

Oh my. I realllly hope you're not a math teacher. Yes, each check is less when you're getting 27 instead of 26 because YOU ARE GETTING AN EXTRA PAYCHECK.

it's not an extra paycheck. It's more like a make-up paycheck for a pay period that DCPS is arbitrarily choosing not to pay.

what? it's an extra paycheck paid early in advance of the work being performed, with a pro-rata amount taken out of each subsequent paycheck. how is DCPS "arbitrarily chosing not to pay"? this is an income-smoothing measure taken because the school year starts later this year.

Ahhh "income smoothing" a wonderful euphemism for "we're cutting an entire pay period and then docking you 3.7% on your next 26 paychecks to make this seem like we're doing you a favor"

Seriously, you need to go back to school and learn to save. AS the previous teacher explained it's the same amount of money just cut differently. Sigh!!!!!!

If P=paycheck, over the same 27 pay periods,

27 [P- (3.7%P)] < 27P

[Anonymous]

Any teacher who can't do this math and realize it's NOT a cut (just a re-distribution) shouldn't be teaching in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who can't do this math and realize it's NOT a cut (just a re-distribution) shouldn't be teaching in DCPS.

I just did the math for you. Over the same period of time, it's a reduction.

[Anonymous]

No, you moron. Where S = salary

(S/26) x 26 = (S/27) x 27

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, you moron. Where S = salary

(S/26) x 26 = (S/27) x 27

What a deal, get paid the same amount for a longer period of time. Next year you can redefine a year as 56 weeks. Why not continue to redefine how many weeks are in a year. Imagine the savings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, you moron. Where S = salary

(S/26) x 26 = (S/27) x 27

What a deal, get paid the same amount for a longer period of time. Next year you can redefine a year as 56 weeks. Why not continue to redefine how many weeks are in a year. Imagine the savings.

There are the same number of days in the school year, you halfwit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, you moron. Where S = salary

(S/26) x 26 = (S/27) x 27

What a deal, get paid the same amount for a longer period of time. Next year you can redefine a year as 56 weeks. Why not continue to redefine how many weeks are in a year. Imagine the savings.

effectively yes, you can divide the year into as many pay periods as you want:

(S/56) x 56 = (S/26) x 26.

as long as the salary stays the same and the number of days work stays the same, your compensation is unchanged.

is what you're objecting to that the summer was made longer? it seems like there was 1 extra week in summer this year, but that was just a quirk of the fact that there are not exactly 52 weeks in a year, right? but you're still working the same number of days in 2019-2020 as 2018-2019.