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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It still would be nice to hear from the coaches on the topic and not just let players wonder. It doesn’t exactly make one feel valued. And with all of these rumors that they must know are circulating, I would think they would call a parent meeting to address things head on and try to dispel some of the misinformation. Avoiding it isn’t helping foster a good sense of community at the club level.

IMHO, rather than waiting for that I would think parents might send Tom and George an email asking for a parent meeting to address what is OR is not going on.

Why don't you email them then since you seem to care so much? I am sure they are happy to talk to an FCV or BRYC parent.

What does this reply even mean? Loser, troll is back on the board.

Moron, it means leave WS parents alone and worry about your own kid. You are just trying to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt.

The other poster was simply suggesting that you contact your coaches directly. How is that spreading fear and how does that imply they are from FCV or BRYC? The prior poster to that sounded like a current parent of a Spirit player with real concerns. Maybe you think it was a fake post, or maybe it hits too close to home. Not sure which, but get over yourself.

Agreed. It was probably misinterpreted. But who can blame posters in these WS threads from misinterpretations when people looking to tear down WS post such crap at all times, in WS threads, DA threads, and even completely unrelated threads.

[Anonymous]

please save your posts for the Barca thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:please save your posts for the Barca thread

Wow. Are you lost? Did you mean to post this somewhere else?

[Anonymous]

why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO RECRUIT.

Anything that causes uncertainty or doubt goes against their mission. You are the enemy if YOU bring up or point out issues that is not favorable to their cause. Hence, "You're a troll", "Just go away", "your just mad your kid is slow", "Bryc coaches suck", "McLean is trash", "FCV parents are nothing but thugs".

They will even come on ECNL threads and attack you because in order to recruit from BRYC and McLean, they need parents to believe that DA is better than ECNL.

These threads are all about information warfare and controlling narratives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

Spirit parents have addressed the problems on this forum. They have identified the problems. They have offered ideas for solving some of the problems. Spirit parents are not defensive about the realities of the program.

1. To many players on rosters.
2. Lack of quality depth players, mostly due to large rosters.
3. Playing kids up instead of playing them at age to field more talented teams.
4. Lack of a quality feeder program.

Please point to any thread where a Spirit parent has denied any of these issues. All of these issues have been contributing factors in poor on field performance. It is well understood that success draws quality players. But, just because Spirit parents also point out the positives that does not mean they are being overly defensive or have their head in the sand. There are just as many playing options for Spirit players as there are for your DD. The problems at Spirit are concerning, but the positives are just as real for many players.

But, even knowing what the problems are and how they can be solved does not mean that a Thanos like finger snap will make things immediately better. The biggest problem that Spirit has that it has no control over is the shear number of "Elite" options they are also competing with for players. It may take 3-4 more years of steady progress for Spirit to be a viable player in the region. There are just no real shortcuts that they can do to get there.

What is strange about the trolling posts and the attacks is people like to pile on Spirit as if they are actually relevant right now. People act like they are threatened by Spirit when it just is not the case right now. In time perhaps they can build a strong program but it seems odd that the two clubs most bashed on this sight are essentially the new kids in the area. Spirit and Barca. Even this thread has a crack about Barca in it. Why? What possible damage has either club done to any other club in the area? Why all the wasted energy attacking something that isn't of proven success enough to even matter?

If you need to attack Spirit to make yourself feel better about your decision then you've set your bar pretty low.

[Anonymous]

Interesting post and agreed on spirit parents being realistic here. But maybe the attention is being drawn on spirit because they are felt to be a potential threat, easier to quash now than later. Also, not seeing any attack on Barca here, just a reference to a parent. I’m inclined to think there’s something to that based on other Barca references made in Spirit and DA threads on the past. Seems someone at Barca has a string anti-spirit and da bias and wants to “control narratives” as eloquently projected above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

Spirit parents have addressed the problems on this forum. They have identified the problems. They have offered ideas for solving some of the problems. Spirit parents are not defensive about the realities of the program.

1. To many players on rosters.
2. Lack of quality depth players, mostly due to large rosters.
3. Playing kids up instead of playing them at age to field more talented teams.
4. Lack of a quality feeder program.

Please point to any thread where a Spirit parent has denied any of these issues. All of these issues have been contributing factors in poor on field performance. It is well understood that success draws quality players. But, just because Spirit parents also point out the positives that does not mean they are being overly defensive or have their head in the sand. There are just as many playing options for Spirit players as there are for your DD. The problems at Spirit are concerning, but the positives are just as real for many players.

But, even knowing what the problems are and how they can be solved does not mean that a Thanos like finger snap will make things immediately better. The biggest problem that Spirit has that it has no control over is the shear number of "Elite" options they are also competing with for players. It may take 3-4 more years of steady progress for Spirit to be a viable player in the region. There are just no real shortcuts that they can do to get there.

What is strange about the trolling posts and the attacks is people like to pile on Spirit as if they are actually relevant right now. People act like they are threatened by Spirit when it just is not the case right now. In time perhaps they can build a strong program but it seems odd that the two clubs most bashed on this sight are essentially the new kids in the area. Spirit and Barca. Even this thread has a crack about Barca in it. Why? What possible damage has either club done to any other club in the area? Why all the wasted energy attacking something that isn't of proven success enough to even matter?

If you need to attack Spirit to make yourself feel better about your decision then you've set your bar pretty low.

A reasonable post like this will draw little to no rebuttal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

Spirit parents have addressed the problems on this forum. They have identified the problems. They have offered ideas for solving some of the problems. Spirit parents are not defensive about the realities of the program.

1. To many players on rosters.
2. Lack of quality depth players, mostly due to large rosters.
3. Playing kids up instead of playing them at age to field more talented teams.
4. Lack of a quality feeder program.

Please point to any thread where a Spirit parent has denied any of these issues. All of these issues have been contributing factors in poor on field performance. It is well understood that success draws quality players. But, just because Spirit parents also point out the positives that does not mean they are being overly defensive or have their head in the sand. There are just as many playing options for Spirit players as there are for your DD. The problems at Spirit are concerning, but the positives are just as real for many players.

But, even knowing what the problems are and how they can be solved does not mean that a Thanos like finger snap will make things immediately better. The biggest problem that Spirit has that it has no control over is the shear number of "Elite" options they are also competing with for players. It may take 3-4 more years of steady progress for Spirit to be a viable player in the region. There are just no real shortcuts that they can do to get there.

What is strange about the trolling posts and the attacks is people like to pile on Spirit as if they are actually relevant right now. People act like they are threatened by Spirit when it just is not the case right now. In time perhaps they can build a strong program but it seems odd that the two clubs most bashed on this sight are essentially the new kids in the area. Spirit and Barca. Even this thread has a crack about Barca in it. Why? What possible damage has either club done to any other club in the area? Why all the wasted energy attacking something that isn't of proven success enough to even matter?

If you need to attack Spirit to make yourself feel better about your decision then you've set your bar pretty low.

A reasonable post like this will draw little to no rebuttal.

Here is a rebuttal. WSVA will be lucky to be around in one year let alone become a viable player in 3 to 4 years.

[Anonymous]

and what player at a prime recruiting age is willing to wait around that long for changes....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

Spirit parents have addressed the problems on this forum. They have identified the problems. They have offered ideas for solving some of the problems. Spirit parents are not defensive about the realities of the program.

1. To many players on rosters.
2. Lack of quality depth players, mostly due to large rosters.
3. Playing kids up instead of playing them at age to field more talented teams.
4. Lack of a quality feeder program.

Please point to any thread where a Spirit parent has denied any of these issues. All of these issues have been contributing factors in poor on field performance. It is well understood that success draws quality players. But, just because Spirit parents also point out the positives that does not mean they are being overly defensive or have their head in the sand. There are just as many playing options for Spirit players as there are for your DD. The problems at Spirit are concerning, but the positives are just as real for many players.

But, even knowing what the problems are and how they can be solved does not mean that a Thanos like finger snap will make things immediately better. The biggest problem that Spirit has that it has no control over is the shear number of "Elite" options they are also competing with for players. It may take 3-4 more years of steady progress for Spirit to be a viable player in the region. There are just no real shortcuts that they can do to get there.

What is strange about the trolling posts and the attacks is people like to pile on Spirit as if they are actually relevant right now. People act like they are threatened by Spirit when it just is not the case right now. In time perhaps they can build a strong program but it seems odd that the two clubs most bashed on this sight are essentially the new kids in the area. Spirit and Barca. Even this thread has a crack about Barca in it. Why? What possible damage has either club done to any other club in the area? Why all the wasted energy attacking something that isn't of proven success enough to even matter?

If you need to attack Spirit to make yourself feel better about your decision then you've set your bar pretty low.

A reasonable post like this will draw little to no rebuttal.

Here is a rebuttal. WSVA will be lucky to be around in one year let alone become a viable player in 3 to 4 years.

Offer evidence of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and what player at a prime recruiting age is willing to wait around that long for changes....

Why does that even concern you?

Why does anything that Spirit does or other families do concern you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do spirit parents get defensive over legitimate questions regarding the club? A person doesn't have to be a troll to wonder how they plan on fixing the massive issues they have and the direction of the club moving forward. They are not transparent and honest with those trying out nor have they shared any kind of plan to run a successful club. Quality players are not going to join the circus of unknown and don't want to pay for a mediocre product.

Spirit parents have addressed the problems on this forum. They have identified the problems. They have offered ideas for solving some of the problems. Spirit parents are not defensive about the realities of the program.

1. To many players on rosters.
2. Lack of quality depth players, mostly due to large rosters.
3. Playing kids up instead of playing them at age to field more talented teams.
4. Lack of a quality feeder program.

Please point to any thread where a Spirit parent has denied any of these issues. All of these issues have been contributing factors in poor on field performance. It is well understood that success draws quality players. But, just because Spirit parents also point out the positives that does not mean they are being overly defensive or have their head in the sand. There are just as many playing options for Spirit players as there are for your DD. The problems at Spirit are concerning, but the positives are just as real for many players.

But, even knowing what the problems are and how they can be solved does not mean that a Thanos like finger snap will make things immediately better. The biggest problem that Spirit has that it has no control over is the shear number of "Elite" options they are also competing with for players. It may take 3-4 more years of steady progress for Spirit to be a viable player in the region. There are just no real shortcuts that they can do to get there.

What is strange about the trolling posts and the attacks is people like to pile on Spirit as if they are actually relevant right now. People act like they are threatened by Spirit when it just is not the case right now. In time perhaps they can build a strong program but it seems odd that the two clubs most bashed on this sight are essentially the new kids in the area. Spirit and Barca. Even this thread has a crack about Barca in it. Why? What possible damage has either club done to any other club in the area? Why all the wasted energy attacking something that isn't of proven success enough to even matter?

If you need to attack Spirit to make yourself feel better about your decision then you've set your bar pretty low.

This. All of this.

[Anonymous]

The poor of quality at Spirit greatly hurts Arlington and FCV as well. Who wants to play soccer versus poor quality teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poor of quality at Spirit greatly hurts Arlington and FCV as well. Who wants to play soccer versus poor quality teams.

I see your argument on FCV. But many of the Spirit/Arlington games have not been blowouts. At least not at all age groups. Not a fair statement.