S/O: Tipping makes me feel great! Tell your stories.

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Anonymous wrote:Re teacher salary:

195 days per year x 8 hrs a day = 1560 hrs

1560 hrs x $40 = $62,400

This is from the NEA. http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm Can we agree that they’d be more accurate than you? The TOP TEN states (paying the most) to new teachers, ranges from $38,570 to $44872. Your $62K is what the NEA lists as one of the TOP TEN salaries in the US FOR an average teacher (NOT the average salary across the US). Meaning - these 10 states are known For paying a non specialized teacher the highest amount. That is what you are using.

You want to discard the dictionary use of standard or customary. You want to discard what the average teacher makes. Again - jam that square peg into the circular hole

Additionally, using an average of teachers’ salaries includes very senior teachers, teachers of math (often paid more), and high school teachers (often paid more).

The link relates about gifting to teachers because many, many people felt it was akin to a tip.

Let’s return to your

Quote: Per the BLS, in May of 2017 elementary school teachers, a wide umbrella for those who teach elementary level education to kids (excluding special education, a separate occupation with its own set of skills), had a median annual income of $57,160.

https://www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/average-teacher-salary-14856183

I would agree in some poor areas teacher's average pay is under $50,000, but in the U.S. the average is closer to $60,000. I have worked in education a long time in several areas of the country. $60,000 is not what the top teachers are paid in most areas. Some in my district are making over $100,000 and some relatively new teachers with masters are making $80-90,000. I'm not saying teachers are rich, I am responding to what a PP said.

The PP I was responding to said "Restaurant workers get over a $100 per evening shift. That is not low wages.
Compare that to what a teacher makes for same amount of time"

The average teacher in the U.S. makes about $40 an hour.
I'm sure different websites will list different averages, but I stand by my numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it at all. Doing nice things for others feels great for all of us. But following up a thread that specifically discussed how many don’t tip housekeeping at all with a thread patting yourself on the back FOR tipping it’s what annoying. Believe it or not, others can be generous and selfless without gettin’ on a soapbox about it. Try it sometime.

What's my name? Oh Anonymous #38438202489234? OK. I got so much validation and attention. Say my name, cause I'm great: Anonymous! Anonymous! Goooo me![/quote]

Are you okay? You sound like you’ve gone off the rails.

I'm fine. Are you OK? You seem to be unable to accept the fact that I don't agree with your perspective. We disagree. I can leave it there. Can you?

Disagreeing is fine. Writing (anonymously) what you wrote above is a tad off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re teacher salary:

195 days per year x 8 hrs a day = 1560 hrs

1560 hrs x $40 = $62,400

This is from the NEA. http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm Can we agree that they’d be more accurate than you? The TOP TEN states (paying the most) to new teachers, ranges from $38,570 to $44872. Your $62K is what the NEA lists as one of the TOP TEN salaries in the US FOR an average teacher (NOT the average salary across the US). Meaning - these 10 states are known For paying a non specialized teacher the highest amount. That is what you are using.

You want to discard the dictionary use of standard or customary. You want to discard what the average teacher makes. Again - jam that square peg into the circular hole

Additionally, using an average of teachers’ salaries includes very senior teachers, teachers of math (often paid more), and high school teachers (often paid more).

The link relates about gifting to teachers because many, many people felt it was akin to a tip.

Let’s return to your

Quote: Per the BLS, in May of 2017 elementary school teachers, a wide umbrella for those who teach elementary level education to kids (excluding special education, a separate occupation with its own set of skills), had a median annual income of $57,160.

https://www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/average-teacher-salary-14856183

I would agree in some poor areas teacher's average pay is under $50,000, but in the U.S. the average is closer to $60,000. I have worked in education a long time in several areas of the country. $60,000 is not what the top teachers are paid in most areas. Some in my district are making over $100,000 and some relatively new teachers with masters are making $80-90,000. I'm not saying teachers are rich, I am responding to what a PP said.

The PP I was responding to said "Restaurant workers get over a $100 per evening shift. That is not low wages.
Compare that to what a teacher makes for same amount of time"

The average teacher in the U.S. makes about $40 an hour.
I'm sure different websites will list different averages, but I stand by my numbers.

Sigh. Let’s try this again: you’re talking about an averaging of all teacher’s salaries. That includes largely not new teachers. Regardless, maids don’t have student loans very often. Teachers (who now require a masters degree) often do. I WAS a Fcps teacher and a teacher in rural Virginia. I know it’s hard.

[Anonymous]

It’s like arguing with a crazy person.

So others don’t need to read all your posts- here’s the summary of your posts and about you. Tip maids. Teachers are rich. Blab about your tipping. You’re always right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it at all. Doing nice things for others feels great for all of us. But following up a thread that specifically discussed how many don’t tip housekeeping at all with a thread patting yourself on the back FOR tipping it’s what annoying. Believe it or not, others can be generous and selfless without gettin’ on a soapbox about it. Try it sometime.

What's my name? Oh Anonymous #38438202489234? OK. I got so much validation and attention. Say my name, cause I'm great: Anonymous! Anonymous! Goooo me![/quote]

Are you okay? You sound like you’ve gone off the rails.

I'm fine. Are you OK? You seem to be unable to accept the fact that I don't agree with your perspective. We disagree. I can leave it there. Can you?

Disagreeing is fine. Writing (anonymously) what you wrote above is a tad off.

Says you. I think what I wrote is fine, and others who posted their feel-good tipping stories did, too. You are not required to participate in this thread. Again, if "Game of Thrones" is not your show, you don't need to go into a GoT threads and be an ass about it. The world can indeed turn without your involvement or approval. Have a great day!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Restaurant workers get over a $100 per evening shift. That is not low wages.
Compare that to what a teacher makes for same amount of time

That's one level of restaurant workers.

My daughter makes about $800-$1000 per week in tips for about 30-35 hrs of work as a server.

One time some drunk Republicans (it was near and after a Trump rally) tipped her $400 on a $100 bar bill when she was bartending.

She makes a good living as a server, she greatly appreciates the tips she gets, she understands when some losers don't get how to tip and leave too little, it doesn't change her attitude toward her work which is to make every patron's experience the best it can possibly be.

I know other servers who make more than she does. One guy I know works in a restaurant in DC just on the weekends and he doesn't get any of the dinner shifts, he makes $400-500 per weekend.

Keep on tipping, that's how that system works, and don't feel sorry for servers. They're mostly doing okay.

Oh, and by the way, the average teacher is making about $40 an hour unless they're brand new.

Sounds like a really good job
I earned less than that when I graduated from college, and had student loans to pay.

I did not eat in restaurants in those days

[Anonymous]

I must say, it sounds quite entitled for a server to demand a high salary thru tips. Lots of people with education do wonderful work and never get tips

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must say, it sounds quite entitled for a server to demand a high salary thru tips. Lots of people with education do wonderful work and never get tips

Servers don't demand anything. They just get a job that involves the restaurant letting the customers pay their help directly. For some it is a flawed system that doesn't allow them to make much money (lower level restaurants like Waffle House.) For others it's a great system that allows them to make a lot of money without even having student loans to pay off (fine dining establishments.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s like arguing with a crazy person.

So others don’t need to read all your posts- here’s the summary of your posts and about you. Tip maids. Teachers are rich. Blab about your tipping. You’re always right.

DP: you're reading a bit more like the crazy person in this argument IMO.

[Anonymous]

My dad was a waiter and his tips paid for my diapers. He has a 7th grade education and waiting tables was a way for him to earn a good living for his family and eventually allowed him to open his own restaurant. Thanks for posting this OP - tipping makes me feel great because I feel like I am paying my good fortune forward.

And this is off topic, but a stranger picked up the check when my husband and I got engaged - someone did that for him 20 years ago and now I am looking forward to the day when I can do the same for someone else!

[Anonymous]

I tip generously too, OP. Before a trip, DH and I build up a stash of singles, fives and tens for tipping. It makes the trip more enjoyable to spread goodwill through verbal AND monetary thanks.

[Anonymous]

My father, Greatest Generation and veteran of three wars, had to work very hard in all manner of jobs to support himself and his family since he was a teenager. He was so grateful that he was able to make it in this country and he always tipped generously even though he was a frugal man. That made such an impression on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tip generously too, OP. Before a trip, DH and I build up a stash of singles, fives and tens for tipping. It makes the trip more enjoyable to spread goodwill through verbal AND monetary thanks.

I just started doing this too. I keep an envelope and any time I have cash under a $20, I put it in it. Then I have on hand cash for tipping on trips and it feels so effortless and like I can easily express appreciation. Before that I would be scrambling and end up doing something like giving a $20 to housekeeping at the end of 4 day trip with a note that it was for our full stay because I didn't have adequate cash on hand.

[Anonymous]

I read that not many people tip Uber or Lyft drivers because the reason they use the service is to get from point A to B at the lowest cost. Since they don't pay the drivers on the spot no harm, no foul for not tipping. I had a 33 mile ride today that only cost me $46 and I tipped him 25%. It's still cheaper than a taxi or car service and the driver keeps 100% of the tip. I'm sure he was surprised and that's good.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel great when everyone is paid a living wage.

I was about to say this. No one else find this post super icky and self-congratulatory?

OP here. You know what I, personally, can't do? Guarantee everyone a living wage.

Here's what I CAN do:
1) Vote in ways I feel is consistent with my social values.
2) Advocate for policies I feel are consistent with my social values.
3) Create jobs in my organization (CHECK)
4) Tip well when and where I can
5) Start feel-good threads

I've done good in the ways that I have the capacity to do good today. Have you?

Omg you’re insufferable.

No, she or he is quite entirely correct.

If you do not want to tip, eat at home, do not stay at hotels, and carry your own luggage. Saying that people should be paid a living wage and thus you’re off the hook is too often a cover for contempt for “menial” workers.

You are missing the lint. I think nearly everyone tips at sit down restaurants with waiters. I also think most people tip bellman, taxis, hairdressers and other people where tipping is generally understood to be part of accepting the service. Most people don’t tip housekeeping in a hotel. It is not generally accepted that that industry requires a tip of you use them. Im sure I encounter thousands of people annually who do something to help my life and they are making $10-$11 an hour and I don’t tip them. I can’t tip everyone and neither can you. It doesn’t make me a bad person or you a good one because you tip maids. You can’t give to every beggar, every gofundme, every sob story, etc. that’s fine that you tip maids but to have a thread like this is kinda sad.

Show me exactly where anyone has suggested on this thread that you need to tip EVERYONE who makes a low wage, or EVERYONE is helpful to you.

I'll wait.

Oh, but no one has said that! People are sharing nice stories of giving or receiving a tip. Point blank period. This is not meant to be a "tip everyone or else you are a bad person" thread. So your "points" are completely moot, because you're arguing against statements that were never made. Sorry!

Someone above said, “If you don’t want to tip, don’t stay at hotels.” I was responding to that. I am not tipping housekeeping at hotels. If you do, great. You’re not better than a non-tipper but you sure like to be self-congratulatory.

You don't tip housekeeping at all when you stay at hotels?

Correct. Neither do most people. Put your peepers back in your head.

NP. Im not a big tipper but you are wrong. Most people do tip housekeeping.