S/O: Tipping makes me feel great! Tell your stories.

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Found it: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/780527.page

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Anonymous wrote:Omg the person posting numerous times is like the tipping nazi. Off topic in her opinion? - she’ll call you out on it. Saying you don’t want to tip, makes you u comfortable, move along. Tell her she’s self congratulatory (which she is) - get snipped at.

You tip maids. Great. You want to blab about it because that is what makes you feel good - you did it —so move on.

Couldn't agree more. The "do YOU feel good about what YOU did today?" post is the worst. These people have such blinders on.

No, "the worst" is people who stomp all over something nice for no reason. No, of course you can't tip everyone, and of course you personally can't facilitate a living wage for every worker. Do what you can, how you want to. At the very least, don't sneer at someone doing something nice. And yeah, it does feel good to do nice things, that's part of why people do nice things! That's not the sole motivation, but hey...why not feel good?

I’m not sure how many different ways there are to say this. No one disagrees with the actions. It’s the self-congratulatory nature plus the follow up posts (what did YOU do today? Oh, nothing? Thought so!) that are extremely annoying. Do you not see the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody was in line in front of me at the grocery store and her card got declined. I paid for her groceries. Does that count?

That was very nice. I’ve only paid for a few things when the customer in front was short on cash.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel great when everyone is paid a living wage.

I was about to say this. No one else find this post super icky and self-congratulatory?

OP here. You know what I, personally, can't do? Guarantee everyone a living wage.

Here's what I CAN do:
1) Vote in ways I feel is consistent with my social values.
2) Advocate for policies I feel are consistent with my social values.
3) Create jobs in my organization (CHECK)
4) Tip well when and where I can
5) Start feel-good threads

I've done good in the ways that I have the capacity to do good today. Have you?

Omg you’re insufferable.

No, she or he is quite entirely correct.

If you do not want to tip, eat at home, do not stay at hotels, and carry your own luggage. Saying that people should be paid a living wage and thus you’re off the hook is too often a cover for contempt for “menial” workers.

You are missing the lint. I think nearly everyone tips at sit down restaurants with waiters. I also think most people tip bellman, taxis, hairdressers and other people where tipping is generally understood to be part of accepting the service. Most people don’t tip housekeeping in a hotel. It is not generally accepted that that industry requires a tip of you use them. Im sure I encounter thousands of people annually who do something to help my life and they are making $10-$11 an hour and I don’t tip them. I can’t tip everyone and neither can you. It doesn’t make me a bad person or you a good one because you tip maids. You can’t give to every beggar, every gofundme, every sob story, etc. that’s fine that you tip maids but to have a thread like this is kinda sad.

I think of that as completely standard--same as all the others you mentioned.

The fact that you do so doesn’t mean it is stands or most people do. The fact that surveys quoted online prove most people do t is what dictates is the standard. We call that reality. Visit it sometime.

Well, the survey I saw is that about 30% of guests tip housekeeping staff. In my view, that's a decent enough sized subset to say it's a standard practice, though not universally done. I think people know it's an accepted practice, but in the traveling moment, people don't think of it, feel they can get away with not doing it because no one sees it, tip in other occasions because they don't want to experience the face-to-face awkwardness of not tipping but they really resent tipping so this is their chance to not do it. That's the reality of psychology and human tendencies--we don't live up to many of our accepted standards.

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1/3 is NOT standard practice. That’s a minority. Common or standard practice means it is done a lot. 3/10 is not a lot.

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It isn’t that we dont want to live up to our accepted standards. Tipping hotel maids isn’t an accepted standard. you can try to force the round peg into the square hole but it won’t fit. You’re just plain wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:1/3 is NOT standard practice. That’s a minority. Common or standard practice means it is done a lot. 3/10 is not a lot.

"Standard" can mean simple majority of actual practice or it can mean the expected custom. Such as: The standard is that resumes should be a full and faithful account of your experience and educational background, Common practice may be that more than 50% of people do not meet that standard. Doesn't change the standard.

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Anonymous wrote:1/3 is NOT standard practice. That’s a minority. Common or standard practice means it is done a lot. 3/10 is not a lot.

"Standard" can mean simple majority of actual practice or it can mean the expected custom. Such as: The standard is that resumes should be a full and faithful account of your experience and educational background, Common practice may be that more than 50% of people do not meet that standard. Doesn't change the standard.

This is norther a majority or an actual practice my most. Still wrong. (And I got my definition from a dictionary). But I think I know how to shut you up: you’re right and I’m wrong. Not really...though.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it at all. Doing nice things for others feels great for all of us. But following up a thread that specifically discussed how many don’t tip housekeeping at all with a thread patting yourself on the back FOR tipping it’s what annoying. Believe it or not, others can be generous and selfless without gettin’ on a soapbox about it. Try it sometime.

What's my name? Oh Anonymous #38438202489234? OK. I got so much validation and attention. Say my name, cause I'm great: Anonymous! Anonymous! Goooo me!

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Anonymous wrote:Restaurant workers get over a $100 per evening shift. That is not low wages.
Compare that to what a teacher makes for same amount of time

That's one level of restaurant workers.

My daughter makes about $800-$1000 per week in tips for about 30-35 hrs of work as a server.

One time some drunk Republicans (it was near and after a Trump rally) tipped her $400 on a $100 bar bill when she was bartending.

She makes a good living as a server, she greatly appreciates the tips she gets, she understands when some losers don't get how to tip and leave too little, it doesn't change her attitude toward her work which is to make every patron's experience the best it can possibly be.

I know other servers who make more than she does. One guy I know works in a restaurant in DC just on the weekends and he doesn't get any of the dinner shifts, he makes $400-500 per weekend.

Keep on tipping, that's how that system works, and don't feel sorry for servers. They're mostly doing okay.

Oh, and by the way, the average teacher is making about $40 an hour unless they're brand new.

The bag teacher makes $29/hr. https://work.chron.com/hourly-wages-teachers-2044.html

Your daughter makes more than the avg teachers, at 800-1000 a week. She probably has less student loans, as well. Go see how people feel about giving teacher gifts. I’ll see if I can find the thread.

I don't know what a "bag" teacher is and can't figure out what you are trying to say when it was mistyped or whatever. I read your link and I believe it is wrong. Other websites, such as salary.com, agree that the average teacher makes around $60,000. They work approximately 40 weeks a year, approximately 40 hrs a week. That comes out to a bit under $40 an hour. If my math is wrong please let me know, I don't mind being corrected.

I know how people feel about giving teachers gifts but I don't know what that has to do with this.

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Re teacher salary:

195 days per year x 8 hrs a day = 1560 hrs

1560 hrs x $40 = $62,400

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it at all. Doing nice things for others feels great for all of us. But following up a thread that specifically discussed how many don’t tip housekeeping at all with a thread patting yourself on the back FOR tipping it’s what annoying. Believe it or not, others can be generous and selfless without gettin’ on a soapbox about it. Try it sometime.

What's my name? Oh Anonymous #38438202489234? OK. I got so much validation and attention. Say my name, cause I'm great: Anonymous! Anonymous! Goooo me!

Are you okay? You sound like you’ve gone off the rails.

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Anonymous wrote:Re teacher salary:

195 days per year x 8 hrs a day = 1560 hrs

1560 hrs x $40 = $62,400

This is from the NEA. http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm Can we agree that they’d be more accurate than you? The TOP TEN states (paying the most) to new teachers, ranges from $38,570 to $44872. Your $62K is what the NEA lists as one of the TOP TEN salaries in the US FOR an average teacher (NOT the average salary across the US). Meaning - these 10 states are known For paying a non specialized teacher the highest amount. That is what you are using.

You want to discard the dictionary use of standard or customary. You want to discard what the average teacher makes. Again - jam that square peg into the circular hole

Additionally, using an average of teachers’ salaries includes very senior teachers, teachers of math (often paid more), and high school teachers (often paid more).

The link relates about gifting to teachers because many, many people felt it was akin to a tip.

Let’s return to your

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Ignore, “let’s return to the...”. I was going to say something else but it’s not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it at all. Doing nice things for others feels great for all of us. But following up a thread that specifically discussed how many don’t tip housekeeping at all with a thread patting yourself on the back FOR tipping it’s what annoying. Believe it or not, others can be generous and selfless without gettin’ on a soapbox about it. Try it sometime.

What's my name? Oh Anonymous #38438202489234? OK. I got so much validation and attention. Say my name, cause I'm great: Anonymous! Anonymous! Goooo me!

Are you okay? You sound like you’ve gone off the rails.

I'm fine. Are you OK? You seem to be unable to accept the fact that I don't agree with your perspective. We disagree. I can leave it there. Can you?