Another kid broke my son's jaw

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'd be upset too but presumably you have health insurance so you're just on the hook for co-pays. It's not worth suing that kid or his family for co-pays. Forget the money. Get it fixed with the best medical attention and advise your son to stay away from this guy.

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This. Focus on making sure your child is okay. Stop posting and go out there right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both of these adult men will get thrown out.

OP, I think your child will and should also face disciplinary action. Unless you get new information it sounds like your child is as much to blame as the other student and you would better serve your son by focusing on his medical care and playing nice with the other child's parents and the school and chalking it up to an accident.
Imagine the school's response. You claim it's an assault. You make the school look bad. The other parents get defensive. They file harassment or assault charges against your child. Police are involved. School reacts by taking this seriously and suspending or expelling both students. Lose-lose.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in college; he is 18. He lives in a dorm and was screwing around with kids in his dorm; he touched another kid's head, then did it again and the other kid punched him in the face and broke his jaw. This was not a fight, just teens screwing around. There was no alcohol involved. I'm not sure how to handle this. My son goes to school OOS, I do not know this other kid. My son went to the ED, had a CAT scan and will be followed up by a specialist. This will likely be rather expensive. I don't know if we should have him call the police and file a report, or just try to contact the other kid's parents. I'm inclined to not just let this go. WWYD? Thanks.

If it was not a fight, why would you consider a police report? If it was kids screwing around and no alcohol (you understand the skepticism here right?) you are presumably regarding the injury as essentially accidental.

Thinking back to college, I had a friend who developed thyroid cancer in our junior year, a guy I dated previously got drunk and fell off a balcony breaking HIS jaw, I broke a wrist horsing around with friends, somebody else I knew had an emergency appendectomy, another friend had a nasty case of mono and spent a month in bed, one guy (who always skipped breakfast) actually was diagnosed with scurvy. Nobody's parents flew out. Everyone had health insurance (the school required proof and if not you have to pay into their student health insurance policy).

Mono is nbd. Jaw surgery gone wrong is a real thing. I’m not overprotective but I wouldn’t want my kid undergoing surgery without another adult or preferably me there. Major issues can happen and no one should be left alone in the hospital. I’m the daughter of a doctor.

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Jaw surgery gone wrong is a real thing? I’m a dentist, and did a year long residency with oral surgeons, and saw quite a few jaw surgeries. Participated in several as well. Would love to hear about these surgeries, daughter of a doctor.

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I'm sorry to hear this OP. I hope your so makes a full recovery - hope you can go to him and help him adjust while he heals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both of these adult men will get thrown out.

OP, I think your child will and should also face disciplinary action. Unless you get new information it sounds like your child is as much to blame as the other student and you would better serve your son by focusing on his medical care and playing nice with the other child's parents and the school and chalking it up to an accident.
Imagine the school's response. You claim it's an assault. You make the school look bad. The other parents get defensive. They file harassment or assault charges against your child. Police are involved. School reacts by taking this seriously and suspending or expelling both students. Lose-lose.

what are you smoking! I feel sorry for your kids if this is your line of thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Do nothing but go to your son. Find out exactly what he says happened, what he thinks is best, talk to the RA. What the other kid did was assault and battery.

So was touching the other kid's head.

And yes, if a guy won't stop touching you, a punch is the proper response.

Touching someone’s head is quite offensive if they are not in a personal relationship with them.

okay...I'd like to know what alternate universe I just walked into.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I am surprised that people do not realize how serious punching someone in face is. Probably watched too many movies. There is a reason why NBA for example automatically severely punish a punch to the face no matter the circumstance.

If someone annoys you then you tell them to f-off and walk away. I do not teach my kids to punch people if they touch them unasked, I teach them to not engage with idiots.

People here with PhD and ready to punch someone have probably never been punched or fought someone, it is not like in movies.

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Anonymous wrote:Do nothing but go to your son. Find out exactly what he says happened, what he thinks is best, talk to the RA. What the other kid did was assault and battery.

So was touching the other kid's head.

And yes, if a guy won't stop touching you, a punch is the proper response.

Touching someone’s head is quite offensive if they are not in a personal relationship with them.

okay...I'd like to know what alternate universe I just walked into.

+1 Yeah the more time I spend on DCUM the more I am convinced that 90% of the world is totally psycho!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I'd be upset too but presumably you have health insurance so you're just on the hook for co-pays. It's not worth suing that kid or his family for co-pays. Forget the money. Get it fixed with the best medical attention and advise your son to stay away from this guy.

Wow! Are you posting this from 1990? That's how my mom thinks insurance works, too. A lot of people have coinsurance, deductibles, etc.

No, I'm not posting from 1990. In fact, we have a high deductible plan. I just had to take my own teenager to the ER and ended up paying a total less than $300. Total out of pocket expenses will still have a cap. No way would I take on another family to cover the cost in a case like this. Not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Do nothing but go to your son. Find out exactly what he says happened, what he thinks is best, talk to the RA. What the other kid did was assault and battery.

So was touching the other kid's head.

And yes, if a guy won't stop touching you, a punch is the proper response.

That is just demented. Punch is almost never a proper response unless one feels truly threatened.
Punch is basically a last resort and usually something I would not expect from educated, civilized person.

This. People are trying to justify violent behavior by pointing to her son's obnoxious behavior. They're not the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do nothing but go to your son. Find out exactly what he says happened, what he thinks is best, talk to the RA. What the other kid did was assault and battery.

So was touching the other kid's head.

And yes, if a guy won't stop touching you, a punch is the proper response.

Touching someone’s head is quite offensive if they are not in a personal relationship with them.

okay...I'd like to know what alternate universe I just walked into.

DP. This is the case in many cultures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I am surprised that people do not realize how serious punching someone in face is. Probably watched too many movies. There is a reason why NBA for example automatically severely punish a punch to the face no matter the circumstance.

If someone annoys you then you tell them to f-off and walk away. I do not teach my kids to punch people if they touch them unasked, I teach them to not engage with idiots.

People here with PhD and ready to punch someone have probably never been punched or fought someone, it is not like in movies.

Sounds like the other guy did actually tell him to F-off before hitting him. At least once.

And who seriously “touches” someone’s head, they ask him to stop and he “touches” the guy’s head again. What does that mean? He was probably hitting him, flicking him, kicking him (we don’t know with which body parts he “touched” his head with) or something else that the law would deem assault.

You can’t go to court expecting a payout when you start a fight and lose.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do nothing but go to your son. Find out exactly what he says happened, what he thinks is best, talk to the RA. What the other kid did was assault and battery.

So was touching the other kid's head.

And yes, if a guy won't stop touching you, a punch is the proper response.

Touching someone’s head is quite offensive if they are not in a personal relationship with them.

okay...I'd like to know what alternate universe I just walked into.

DP. This is the case in many cultures.

No. It’s not. It is never ok to respond to a touch by breaking someone’s jaw. I’d be surprised if the campus authorities didn’t call the police over this incident. It’s not like the college nurse could just put a bandaid on the kid’s jaw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I am surprised that people do not realize how serious punching someone in face is. Probably watched too many movies. There is a reason why NBA for example automatically severely punish a punch to the face no matter the circumstance.

If someone annoys you then you tell them to f-off and walk away. I do not teach my kids to punch people if they touch them unasked, I teach them to not engage with idiots.

People here with PhD and ready to punch someone have probably never been punched or fought someone, it is not like in movies.

Sounds like the other guy did actually tell him to F-off before hitting him. At least once.

And who seriously “touches” someone’s head, they ask him to stop and he “touches” the guy’s head again. What does that mean? He was probably hitting him, flicking him, kicking him (we don’t know with which body parts he “touched” his head with) or something else that the law would deem assault.

You can’t go to court expecting a payout when you start a fight and lose.

We also don't know if he was (accidentally or not) flicking him in the eye or smacking alongside the ear, either of which could have provoked a reflexive wile swing. It happens. Given OP's or OP's son's hedging on this, it's more likely than a couple of gentle touches.

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^^wild swing