Another kid broke my son's jaw

[Anonymous]

Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

[Anonymous]

My grandson was partying while in aviation mechanic school at age 18, the boys were punching each other on purpose and another kid punched him and broke his jaw. Surgery and it was wired shut for a month. His mother moved there and fixed him soft foods for a month. (Talk about torture!) She also then insisted he transfer to a different school, one affiliated with her religion, where he did very well, graduated, and now has had an exemplary career in the Air Force for about 7 years so far and has a wife and two kids.

Just sharing my stupid kid broken jaw story!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t your son the instigator?

Suppose so. Seems like a broken jaw may be taking it a bit far. Anger management issues perhaps?

How about impulse control for your son?

Your son was at fault. He started it and apparently wouldn’t stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is in college; he is 18. He lives in a dorm and was screwing around with kids in his dorm; he touched another kid's head, then did it again and the other kid punched him in the face and broke his jaw. This was not a fight, just teens screwing around. There was no alcohol involved. I'm not sure how to handle this. My son goes to school OOS, I do not know this other kid. My son went to the ED, had a CAT scan and will be followed up by a specialist. This will likely be rather expensive. I don't know if we should have him call the police and file a report, or just try to contact the other kid's parents. I'm inclined to not just let this go. WWYD? Thanks.

If it was not a fight, why would you consider a police report? If it was kids screwing around and no alcohol (you understand the skepticism here right?) you are presumably regarding the injury as essentially accidental.

Thinking back to college, I had a friend who developed thyroid cancer in our junior year, a guy I dated previously got drunk and fell off a balcony breaking HIS jaw, I broke a wrist horsing around with friends, somebody else I knew had an emergency appendectomy, another friend had a nasty case of mono and spent a month in bed, one guy (who always skipped breakfast) actually was diagnosed with scurvy. Nobody's parents flew out. Everyone had health insurance (the school required proof and if not you have to pay into their student health insurance policy).

Mono is nbd. Jaw surgery gone wrong is a real thing. I’m not overprotective but I wouldn’t want my kid undergoing surgery without another adult or preferably me there. Major issues can happen and no one should be left alone in the hospital. I’m the daughter of a doctor.

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Jaw surgery gone wrong is a real thing? I’m a dentist, and did a year long residency with oral surgeons, and saw quite a few jaw surgeries. Participated in several as well. Would love to hear about these surgeries, daughter of a doctor.

Dentist Pap, I’m relieved to read your post because my DD will need jaw surgery by the time she’s 18. That being said, I’ll definitely want to be there, even if she’s already in college. I think any parent would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

The injured “perp”? Except for the ones involving ejaculate, those don’t sound worthy of a punch. What happened to the boys discipline-wise?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

So gross. I hope that they didn’t just punch the person in the face here as more would be so satisfying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

The injured “perp”? Except for the ones involving ejaculate, those don’t sound worthy of a punch. What happened to the boys discipline-wise?

Really? I want to nail this dude right in his ‘naked genitals’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does your son thinking it was horseplay plus bad luck or does he think the other kid behaved inappropriately?

I can guarantee you that the other guy didn’t want to be touched and saw OP’s son as provoking him into a fight.

This. And I'll bet the punch didn't come out of the blue; the other kid said, "Don't do that!" or perhaps even, "If you do that again I'm going to kick your ass."

This seems like the ultimate in natural consequences. If an adult male touches someone in an unwanted manner (twice) he risks getting hit.

[Anonymous]

Go out there, make sure your kid is ok and getting the right medical attention (university health systems are notoriously poor, and if he doesn’t have a car, the actual hospital might be quite far off campus for him), and have him move/transfer dorms if necessary. If he can figure out where the other kid is living next year, have him avoid that dorm too.

[Anonymous]

I’m starting to wonder if this is a troll post. All these “unwanted touching” PPs have never seen the results of a broken jaw. It’s serious assault, serious recovery time and not excusable unless a documented accident. Punching someone in the face hard enough to break jaw is a crime and not justified

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

So gross. I hope that they didn’t just punch the person in the face here as more would be so satisfying.

Not one of those things justifies BREAKING SOMEONES JAW by punching in the mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wonder if this is a troll post. All these “unwanted touching” PPs have never seen the results of a broken jaw. It’s serious assault, serious recovery time and not excusable unless a documented accident. Punching someone in the face hard enough to break jaw is a crime and not justified

Oh, come on. If someone touched your daughter in a way she didn't like, she told him to stop, he did it again, and she hit him in the face and broke his jaw (and PPs are right, jaws break very easily if hit in the wrong place) , you think she was unjustified, and committed a crime? Don't be ridiculous.

Also, I'd bet my mortgage payment that OP didn't get the complete story from her son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wonder if this is a troll post. All these “unwanted touching” PPs have never seen the results of a broken jaw. It’s serious assault, serious recovery time and not excusable unless a documented accident. Punching someone in the face hard enough to break jaw is a crime and not justified

This is such a weird response to me. You realize that "touching" someone else's head can be a hedging way of referring to a range from a teeny boop on the tip of the nose to flicking him directly in the eye, or clapping him on the side of the head a'la the eardrum rupture in It's A Wonderful Life?

How the hell can you say you know whether it was proportional or not? Especially given it could have been a wild swing that just landed right.

You're pushing a narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, as an RA, here are things I know some 18 year old men did to each other that led to fights in the dorms:

Place a used condom on a roommate’s pillow.
Fart directly at a hallmate walking by
Press naked genitals against a roommate’s family photo of mom and two sisters.
Ejaculate in roommate’s 2 in 1 shampoo
Smush a rotted pickled egg on hallmate’s back

All of these things were done to humiliate the other man and establish dominance. In all cases, things only went to the j board after the victim physically retailiated and then the injured perp claimed to be playing.

So gross. I hope that they didn’t just punch the person in the face here as more would be so satisfying.

Not one of those things justifies BREAKING SOMEONES JAW by punching in the mouth.

It kind of does. At least it might be the only thing to straighten out an entitled as shole such as this man/these men.
And really the men who do it are doing women and society in general a great service in doing this. Might keep a future GF from being abused or having to defend herself similarly and it saves society money in criminal justice system costs if we’re lucky.

If anyone sues they should be aware that all court proceedings will be readily available to the public - future spouses & employers included- and everyone will know that said man got punched in the face for being an entitled, annoying a-hole.

It’s a little late to still be growing up but it’s worth a try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wonder if this is a troll post. All these “unwanted touching” PPs have never seen the results of a broken jaw. It’s serious assault, serious recovery time and not excusable unless a documented accident. Punching someone in the face hard enough to break jaw is a crime and not justified

This is such a weird response to me. You realize that "touching" someone else's head can be a hedging way of referring to a range from a teeny boop on the tip of the nose to flicking him directly in the eye, or clapping him on the side of the head a'la the eardrum rupture in It's A Wonderful Life?

How the hell can you say you know whether it was proportional or not? Especially given it could have been a wild swing that just landed right.

You're pushing a narrative.

Touching someone’s anything when unwanted is assault - plain and simple.