UVA EA is out!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:This almost seems unreal. My ds was accepted, as were a few of his friends from his HS, and they didn't have applications that looked like this. This seems like an outlier to me.

My son is a senior at one of the bottom 50% of all schools in Virginia. He has a 2.8 GPA and SAT score of 1000, after multiple attempts. He gets accepted to UVA to play football there in December.

Sports ruin the illusion of prestige.
UVA admitted this kid, and they expect he will succeed there and graduate.
So why do all the other students have to be the best and brightest if any below-average student can be successful there?

Why are you even in a thread for a school with D1 sports if you're so down on them? Go do something positive with yourself.

I agree. But it's a legit question. It shows the degree of BS and lying involved regarding D1 schools. The fact that low SAT scoring full time athletes graduate on time from supposed great academic institutions is proof that the academics are highly average.

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Anonymous wrote:This almost seems unreal. My ds was accepted, as were a few of his friends from his HS, and they didn't have applications that looked like this. This seems like an outlier to me.

My son is a senior at one of the bottom 50% of all schools in Virginia. He has a 2.8 GPA and SAT score of 1000, after multiple attempts. He gets accepted to UVA to play football there in December.

Sports ruin the illusion of prestige.
UVA admitted this kid, and they expect he will succeed there and graduate.
So why do all the other students have to be the best and brightest if any below-average student can be successful there?

Why are you even in a thread for a school with D1 sports if you're so down on them? Go do something positive with yourself.

I agree. But it's a legit question. It shows the degree of BS and lying involved regarding D1 schools. The fact that low SAT scoring full time athletes graduate on time from supposed great academic institutions is proof that the academics are highly average.

DP: Cute that you think all athletes are doing the academics on their own. If they want an athlete for sports, they will support them in academics. The kid may not be up to it, but they will graduate. That does not suggest anything about the academic rigor of a school for non-recruited-high-scoring kids, but may say something about the ethics of the athletic department in certain cases.

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They take the same classes as everybody else. Plus are not prepared and have a full time sports job. Yet they graduate in four years. That says something about the value of a diploma.

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Anonymous wrote:This almost seems unreal. My ds was accepted, as were a few of his friends from his HS, and they didn't have applications that looked like this. This seems like an outlier to me.

My son is a senior at one of the bottom 50% of all schools in Virginia. He has a 2.8 GPA and SAT score of 1000, after multiple attempts. He gets accepted to UVA to play football there in December.

Sports ruin the illusion of prestige.
UVA admitted this kid, and they expect he will succeed there and graduate.
So why do all the other students have to be the best and brightest if any below-average student can be successful there?

I agree with you but, all majors aren't the same, and I guarantee you he will receive a ton of help to graduate while others won't.

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Anonymous wrote:Accepted!
No-hooks affluent white male
In state, NOVA
1410/33
4.2 weighted gpa
Very rigorous courseload at underperforming public high school (over 50% free/reduced lunch)
One varsity sport and one other leadership extracurricular

What does an ‘underperforming high school’ have to do with anything?

Students are evaluated within the context of his school. So if he's one of relatively few taking rigorous courses and doing well he will have a better chance of admission than a student taking the exact same courseload with the same stats at a school where a larger percentage of the students are equally strong.

For the right kid, there is a far better chances of getting into selective colleges from the high schools considered to be lesser on these boards. It kind of cuts against buying the house in the best school pyramid you can afford when your kids are in kindergarten.

If one is forced to think that strategically to try to gain an advantage then something is off.

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Folks, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. After UVA wins the NCAA men’s basketball championship, applicants will soar even more. I’m guessing 60,000 in two years. Maybe the state will add 100 slots by then. Probably not.

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Why would my DS (NY) want to go to UVA? Won't be tippy top but may be just above mid UVA range with unique ec's, 5 years committed to one charity/student prez of charity and leadership. Work experience, peer tutor (math) and more ...

He wouldn't even get a look right?

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Anonymous wrote:They take the same classes as everybody else. Plus are not prepared and have a full time sports job. Yet they graduate in four years. That says something about the value of a diploma.

Most of them take the easiest classes, pick the easiest majors and receive lots of tutoring. I’ve had 3 DCs at uva over the last few years. The one who graduated 2 years ago was a physics major. The current 4th year is in the engineering school. The current 2nd year is an Econ major. Not once has any of them recognized a football or basketball player in their classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would my DS (NY) want to go to UVA? Won't be tippy top but may be just above mid UVA range with unique ec's, 5 years committed to one charity/student prez of charity and leadership. Work experience, peer tutor (math) and more ...

He wouldn't even get a look right?

Your gut is probably right—most likely a no, but try anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would my DS (NY) want to go to UVA? Won't be tippy top but may be just above mid UVA range with unique ec's, 5 years committed to one charity/student prez of charity and leadership. Work experience, peer tutor (math) and more ...

He wouldn't even get a look right?

Your gut is probably right—most likely a no, but try anyway.

Thanks PP. He's got some serious grit. Looks like path may be poly sci, quantum computing, advance biz diploma, pushed himself very hard to accelerate in math (which meant doubling up with 2 math courses) and one counts as an elective lol so there's no bump as AP or honors. He may wind up with only 3 APs plus math accel.

My real question is we're not at all familiar with the UVA hype. And honestly, why would one apply from OOS since they prob take more int'l than OOS and obviously taking most in state. We have shit state schools in NY

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Anonymous wrote:Why would my DS (NY) want to go to UVA? Won't be tippy top but may be just above mid UVA range with unique ec's, 5 years committed to one charity/student prez of charity and leadership. Work experience, peer tutor (math) and more ...

He wouldn't even get a look right?

I like how people say their DCs have "unique ECs" but almost never say what they are.

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Thanks PP. He's got some serious grit. Looks like path may be poly sci, quantum computing, advance biz diploma, pushed himself very hard to accelerate in math (which meant doubling up with 2 math courses) and one counts as an elective lol so there's no bump as AP or honors. He may wind up with only 3 APs plus math accel.

My real question is we're not at all familiar with the UVA hype. And honestly, why would one apply from OOS since they prob take more int'l than OOS and obviously taking most in state. We have shit state schools in NY

775 Internationals out of 16,777 total enrolled, so about 5% international.

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Anonymous wrote:Accepted!
No-hooks affluent white male
In state, NOVA
1410/33
4.2 weighted gpa
Very rigorous courseload at underperforming public high school (over 50% free/reduced lunch)
One varsity sport and one other leadership extracurricular

What does an ‘underperforming high school’ have to do with anything?

Students are evaluated within the context of his school. So if he's one of relatively few taking rigorous courses and doing well he will have a better chance of admission than a student taking the exact same courseload with the same stats at a school where a larger percentage of the students are equally strong.

For the right kid, there is a far better chances of getting into selective colleges from the high schools considered to be lesser on these boards. It kind of cuts against buying the house in the best school pyramid you can afford when your kids are in kindergarten.

My 36 ACT kid with hi gpa and strong ECs from MD was denied. He attends a private school where half his classmates are VA residents. Understandable outcome.

UVA, like any other school, protects its yield. It's possible your child was viewed as over-qualified and treats UVA as a safety so it decided to turn your DC down first.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. After UVA wins the NCAA men’s basketball championship, applicants will soar even more. I’m guessing 60,000 in two years. Maybe the state will add 100 slots by then. Probably not.

Win the NCAA men's BB championship? Wishful thinking.

Didn't UVA lose in the first round last year as the #1 overall seed? First time it ever happened.

[Anonymous]

"Dean J." will be posting more UVA EA data today. I would like to find out more about how Virginia kids with 1550+ SAT/36 ACT and top grades at "rigorous" Virginia publics get deferred.