UVA EA is out!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: doesn’t everyone get straight ‘As’ these days?

In my DD's school (in Loudoun County), hardly anyone gets As in AP History courses. There are other scattered courses that are difficult to get As in, but AP history is notoriously difficult. So, even many of the top and brightest kids do not get straight As (if they are taking the most rigorous courses). Not sure how it is at other schools or other counties.

Second that....AP History is tough for our DD (C+) for right now....and she is a sophomore.

General rule of thumb is that AP classes are not an appropriate academic choice if your student cannot get a B or higher

Sadly this seems very true lately. We have had kids with very little AP's but higher GPA's getting into much better schools than those with more B's than A's and a C here or there in AP's. Which really truly sucks. They are basically telling kids to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A. This is NOT what happens in college and kids are so sad/depressed/anxious when they realize that they can't get easy A's in college. And the even bigger irony is most jobs do not give one crap what your GPA was when you graduated.

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Anonymous wrote:"Dean J." will be posting more UVA EA data today. I would like to find out more about how Virginia kids with 1550+ SAT/36 ACT and top grades at "rigorous" Virginia publics get deferred.

Holy Mother of G-d. 40,000 total (EA and RD) received. 25,098 for EA. 6,550 EA admitted for only 3,750 seats total (where does RD fit in????) and SEVEN THOUSAND DEFERRED ON FRIDAY. http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/01/unofficial-uva23-early-action-statistics.html. Middle 50% ACT composite score for OSS of 33-35. My kid doesn't have a chance.

I thought I read that there was a 43 percent instate offer rate for EA. So...relax a little.

Not sure about that, but a good point in that a very high percentage of applications come from OOS and in-state admit rates are much higher (I think just dipped below 40% for first time in a while last year). There is self-selection in-state, though, so it is a pretty qualified pool, though much smaller than OOS.

I think they were being facetious. That’s what the link says. 43% admissions rate for EA instate. 19% for out of state.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. After UVA wins the NCAA men’s basketball championship, applicants will soar even more. I’m guessing 60,000 in two years. Maybe the state will add 100 slots by then. Probably not.

Win the NCAA men's BB championship? Wishful thinking.

Didn't UVA lose in the first round last year as the #1 overall seed? First time it ever happened.

They are a good team this year, but a long way to go. And I don't recall winning a national championship making Villanova into Notre Dame or Alabama into Cal.

I recall seeing a thread here about Villanova recently. They seem to be riding high. Alabama is a dumb school.

Not too dumb getting 5 years of tuition, room, board, summer/research, and books paid for.


Value of tuition for up to five years or 10 semesters for degree-seeking undergraduate and graduate (or law) studies
Four years of on-campus housing at regular room rate
$3,500 per year Merit Scholarship stipend for four years.
One-time allowance of $2,000 for use in summer research or international study
$2,000 book scholarship

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D applied RD. Five of here friends applied EA. Three were accepted. Two deferred.

UVA is not her first choice.

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Back to the initial thread: UVA EA. Is there a site with data that shows how many kids each FCPS High School got admitted to UVA?

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Does UVA send a packet?

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. After UVA wins the NCAA men’s basketball championship, applicants will soar even more. I’m guessing 60,000 in two years. Maybe the state will add 100 slots by then. Probably not.

Win the NCAA men's BB championship? Wishful thinking.

Didn't UVA lose in the first round last year as the #1 overall seed? First time it ever happened.

They are a good team this year, but a long way to go. And I don't recall winning a national championship making Villanova into Notre Dame or Alabama into Cal.

I recall seeing a thread here about Villanova recently. They seem to be riding high. Alabama is a dumb school.

Not too dumb getting 5 years of tuition, room, board, summer/research, and books paid for.


Value of tuition for up to five years or 10 semesters for degree-seeking undergraduate and graduate (or law) studies
Four years of on-campus housing at regular room rate
$3,500 per year Merit Scholarship stipend for four years.
One-time allowance of $2,000 for use in summer research or international study
$2,000 book scholarship

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Don't forget engineering students. My nephew from PA got a full ride including room/board/meals and $2000 scholarship for research. They also have loads of additional scholarships for every single thing you can imagine. He hasn't paid for anything yet and has done some amazing stuff. He is only a sophomore. He loves the weather in the winter, the BBQ, the intramural sports, their workout facilities, their research facilities, etc.... His parents are saving his 529 for graduate school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does UVA send a packet?

The dean said so on the blog.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: doesn’t everyone get straight ‘As’ these days?

In my DD's school (in Loudoun County), hardly anyone gets As in AP History courses. There are other scattered courses that are difficult to get As in, but AP history is notoriously difficult. So, even many of the top and brightest kids do not get straight As (if they are taking the most rigorous courses). Not sure how it is at other schools or other counties.

Second that....AP History is tough for our DD (C+) for right now....and she is a sophomore.

General rule of thumb is that AP classes are not an appropriate academic choice if your student cannot get a B or higher

Sadly this seems very true lately. We have had kids with very little AP's but higher GPA's getting into much better schools than those with more B's than A's and a C here or there in AP's. Which really truly sucks. They are basically telling kids to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A. This is NOT what happens in college and kids are so sad/depressed/anxious when they realize that they can't get easy A's in college. And the even bigger irony is most jobs do not give one crap what your GPA was when you graduated.

Honestly, and I know it won't be well received, they don't want to see C's at all. If you don't think you can get at least a B/B+ in an AP class, then you should take the Honors class and get the higher grade. My dc got into UVA EA with a GPA of 4.07. Took 10 AP classes, grades were on his transcript for 5 of them: B+, A-, A-, A- and A. Current senior year grades in his 5 AP classes are three A-'s and two A's. People question how a kid gets in with that GPA, and that's how it happens. A rigorous courseload with more A-'s than A's, and a handful of B's. The individual grades add up to more than the sum of their parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: doesn’t everyone get straight ‘As’ these days?

In my DD's school (in Loudoun County), hardly anyone gets As in AP History courses. There are other scattered courses that are difficult to get As in, but AP history is notoriously difficult. So, even many of the top and brightest kids do not get straight As (if they are taking the most rigorous courses). Not sure how it is at other schools or other counties.

Second that....AP History is tough for our DD (C+) for right now....and she is a sophomore.

General rule of thumb is that AP classes are not an appropriate academic choice if your student cannot get a B or higher

Sadly this seems very true lately. We have had kids with very little AP's but higher GPA's getting into much better schools than those with more B's than A's and a C here or there in AP's. Which really truly sucks. They are basically telling kids to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A. This is NOT what happens in college and kids are so sad/depressed/anxious when they realize that they can't get easy A's in college. And the even bigger irony is most jobs do not give one crap what your GPA was when you graduated.

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This hasn't been my experience with 2 kids going through the college app process these past 3 years. I think you need to have the most rigorous courseload AND strong GPA to get into any selective school (e.g., W&M or UVA in-state; equivalent OOS). And strong GPA means nearly all A's and A-'s in AP/IB courses. A B or B+ here or there, in the earlier years of HS ok. But if anybody got in with lower, it was that they had a challenging courseload, were exceptional in some other way and had a reasonable explanation for their one C.
But, HS GPA is the best predictor of success in a college so I don't think that's wrong of colleges to focus on it. First jobs don't care about your HS GPA, but your HS GPA is a fairly good predictor of your likelihood to graduate college and your college GPA. It's a better predictor than SAT scores, but colleges use those to standardize and keep a check on the pressure on high schools for grade inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: doesn’t everyone get straight ‘As’ these days?

In my DD's school (in Loudoun County), hardly anyone gets As in AP History courses. There are other scattered courses that are difficult to get As in, but AP history is notoriously difficult. So, even many of the top and brightest kids do not get straight As (if they are taking the most rigorous courses). Not sure how it is at other schools or other counties.

Second that....AP History is tough for our DD (C+) for right now....and she is a sophomore.

General rule of thumb is that AP classes are not an appropriate academic choice if your student cannot get a B or higher

Sadly this seems very true lately. We have had kids with very little AP's but higher GPA's getting into much better schools than those with more B's than A's and a C here or there in AP's. Which really truly sucks. They are basically telling kids to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A. This is NOT what happens in college and kids are so sad/depressed/anxious when they realize that they can't get easy A's in college. And the even bigger irony is most jobs do not give one crap what your GPA was when you graduated.

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This hasn't been my experience with 2 kids going through the college app process these past 3 years. I think you need to have the most rigorous courseload AND strong GPA to get into any selective school (e.g., W&M or UVA in-state; equivalent OOS). And strong GPA means nearly all A's and A-'s in AP/IB courses. A B or B+ here or there, in the earlier years of HS ok. But if anybody got in with lower, it was that they had a challenging courseload, were exceptional in some other way and had a reasonable explanation for their one C.
But, HS GPA is the best predictor of success in a college so I don't think that's wrong of colleges to focus on it. First jobs don't care about your HS GPA, but your HS GPA is a fairly good predictor of your likelihood to graduate college and your college GPA. It's a better predictor than SAT scores, but colleges use those to standardize and keep a check on the pressure on high schools for grade inflation.

My experience too, with 3 who've gone through the process the last 5 years, two who are at UVA. There is no way UVa is telling HS students to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A.

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^^Agree with PP's. From experience of watching kids apply to UVA from our. high school for more than 5 years. You don't do yourself favors by skimping on the rigor. But that doesn't mean you have to have all the hardest classes. One semester of physics is enough if it's not your bag, for example, because at least you tried it. Same with the. highest levels of math if that isn't your thing.

What I have seen though in our school, which is an IB school is kids getting into UVA who didn't do the IB diploma. This reduces the workload because it cuts out degree requirements like 4 years of a language and all the extra work that goes into writing the IB essay and being sure you have enough outside creative, service and other activities and have reflected about them in sufficient depth in writing to qualify for the degree.

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From previous years, any sense of when the admitted students days will be? Weekday or weekend? During FCPS spring break or not?

Trying to figure out our plans for getting DS to as many of the schools he gets into as possible before he actually needs to decide.

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Anonymous wrote:From previous years, any sense of when the admitted students days will be? Weekday or weekend? During FCPS spring break or not?

Trying to figure out our plans for getting DS to as many of the schools he gets into as possible before he actually needs to decide.

http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/02/days-on-lawn-2018-dates-uva22-admitted.html

These were the days last year.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: doesn’t everyone get straight ‘As’ these days?

In my DD's school (in Loudoun County), hardly anyone gets As in AP History courses. There are other scattered courses that are difficult to get As in, but AP history is notoriously difficult. So, even many of the top and brightest kids do not get straight As (if they are taking the most rigorous courses). Not sure how it is at other schools or other counties.

Second that....AP History is tough for our DD (C+) for right now....and she is a sophomore.

General rule of thumb is that AP classes are not an appropriate academic choice if your student cannot get a B or higher

Sadly this seems very true lately. We have had kids with very little AP's but higher GPA's getting into much better schools than those with more B's than A's and a C here or there in AP's. Which really truly sucks. They are basically telling kids to take it easy, don't challenge yourself and get the easy A. This is NOT what happens in college and kids are so sad/depressed/anxious when they realize that they can't get easy A's in college. And the even bigger irony is most jobs do not give one crap what your GPA was when you graduated.

Honestly, and I know it won't be well received, they don't want to see C's at all. If you don't think you can get at least a B/B+ in an AP class, then you should take the Honors class and get the higher grade. My dc got into UVA EA with a GPA of 4.07. Took 10 AP classes, grades were on his transcript for 5 of them: B+, A-, A-, A- and A. Current senior year grades in his 5 AP classes are three A-'s and two A's. People question how a kid gets in with that GPA, and that's how it happens. A rigorous courseload with more A-'s than A's, and a handful of B's. The individual grades add up to more than the sum of their parts.

But my guess is you are talking about public schools who seriously weigh their grades. Do Virginia schools have grading systems like Maryland does? Where a B and an A always equal an A no matter what? Of course no C's shouldn't be seen. But what about a private school. Many top privates do not offer inflated grades and barely weight anything.