Pomona or Johns Hopkins

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona---but I'm also a major believer in an liberal arts education.

I went to a small liberal arts school and Hopkins for professional grad school and was shocked that some of my classmates from Hopkins undergrad had basically taken only science and math in undergrad.
I had taken 80 hours of literature and history and anthropology and then of top of this---some science and math as part of my major.

Pomona doesn't have a required Core — just distribution requirements. Hopkins also has distribution requirements. And, of course, the breadth and depth of its course offerings greatly exceeds that of Pomona. Both schools offer undergrads a liberal arts education.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

but most people here are interested in undergraduate teaching, not the med school

And yet they seem to know surprisingly little (if anything) ABOUT undergraduate education.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

Only here would someone say something this stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

How much do you reallyreally know about Pomona College and it’s recognition? I question this because Pomona College is not in the city of Pomona. Good try though!

Shows you how well known Pomona is. Most people in CA connect Pomona with the horrendous crime rate in the city of Pomona, one of the murder capitals of CA.

And most people in the US connect Baltimore with the horrendous crime rate, one of the murder capitals of the US, corruption, failing schools, etc.

A dysfunctional place.

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Anonymous wrote:They are both strong schools, but Pomona probably is more appealing. It has a reputation of being excellent for academics but also a supportive environment for undergrads. Johns Hopkins is a little more oriented to graduate programs, professional programs--even though it is an amazing university all around. Pomona also has better weather and the vibe of the colleges in that area are great.

Anonymous wrote:I'd pick Pomona for the better weather, reputation, location, fellow schools, happier students and overall feel.

I went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad and I disagree about the weather. This is only true in the sense that "it doesn't snow". The Claremont Colleges are in a horribly smoggy area. You're right near the freeway and it's basically like sucking on an exhaust pipe 365 days of the year. You are nowhere near the beach and you don't get any kind of ocean breeze.

That aside, Claremont Colleges have a more suburban feel versus the urban feel of Hopkins.

I frequent Claremont often and I've never seen any smog these days

Your use of the word “often” is superfluous.

You're right, but the point stands. That area is really not the smog covered area it once was. And there's been a surprising amount of development along with plans to build a light rail down to Pasadena/LA. That area is definitely going to be worth a ton in future years (Claremont already is, but the surrounding communities are developing as well).

Oh, c’mon. The inland empire is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:They are both strong schools, but Pomona probably is more appealing. It has a reputation of being excellent for academics but also a supportive environment for undergrads. Johns Hopkins is a little more oriented to graduate programs, professional programs--even though it is an amazing university all around. Pomona also has better weather and the vibe of the colleges in that area are great.

Anonymous wrote:I'd pick Pomona for the better weather, reputation, location, fellow schools, happier students and overall feel.

I went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad and I disagree about the weather. This is only true in the sense that "it doesn't snow". The Claremont Colleges are in a horribly smoggy area. You're right near the freeway and it's basically like sucking on an exhaust pipe 365 days of the year. You are nowhere near the beach and you don't get any kind of ocean breeze.

That aside, Claremont Colleges have a more suburban feel versus the urban feel of Hopkins.

I frequent Claremont often and I've never seen any smog these days

Your use of the word “often” is superfluous.

You're right, but the point stands. That area is really not the smog covered area it once was. And there's been a surprising amount of development along with plans to build a light rail down to Pasadena/LA. That area is definitely going to be worth a ton in future years (Claremont already is, but the surrounding communities are developing as well).

+1 - I live in Arcadia and go to Claremont a lot- I haven’t encountered smog.

I live in Anaheim, 15 miles south of Pomona. It's not well known except by the locals. I've heard of Cal Tech, Stanford, JHU, MIT, Amherst, Swarthmore, Vassar, etc.

Anaheim....ughhhhh.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona---but I'm also a major believer in an liberal arts education.

I went to a small liberal arts school and Hopkins for professional grad school and was shocked that some of my classmates from Hopkins undergrad had basically taken only science and math in undergrad.
I had taken 80 hours of literature and history and anthropology and then of top of this---some science and math as part of my major.

Pomona doesn't have a required Core — just distribution requirements. Hopkins also has distribution requirements. And, of course, the breadth and depth of its course offerings greatly exceeds that of Pomona. Both schools offer undergrads a liberal arts education.

Pomona has the Claremont Consortium and the students have access to 2700 undergraduate courses. A quick look at their cognitive science/linguistic offerings shows Pomona has a greater variety of courses than Hopkins, for instance.

only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

Obscure LAC? Pomona is the most selective LAC in the nation. I've never seen a ranking where it isn't top 10, and in everywhere it's top 5 or close. Pomona has a lower acceptance rate, higher yield, enrolls a comparable group of students, and ranks higher than Hopkins on just about every undergrad ranking I've seen (which rank both LACs and universities). Really speaks more about you than about them.

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Sorry, since it wasn't clear- ranked top 10 within LACs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

+1

Hopkins is by far the most important research facility in the USA it gets more than twice the funding of any other institution. Pomona? Lolz.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

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Hopkins is by far the most important research facility in the USA it gets more than twice the funding of any other institution. Pomona? Lolz.

But where would you rather go to school as an undergrad? I believe that's the question. not which school gets more research funding. The answer is Pomona.

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The only Claremont college I’d go to is Claremont McKenna.

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professor at JHU- my recommendation would be Pomona undergrad and Hopkins grad. We love seeing applications from students of top LACs.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

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Hopkins is by far the most important research facility in the USA it gets more than twice the funding of any other institution. Pomona? Lolz.

But where would you rather go to school as an undergrad? I believe that's the question. not which school gets more research funding. The answer is Pomona.

In that case. If you are tough, smart and resilient go to Hopkins. If you are smart and have been helicopter parented and are a shrinking violet that is easily upset and prone to breakdowns go to Pomona.

I taught at Hopkins while a grad student and it seemed like a tough, unpleasant place for undergrads. As far as I can see, everyone on this thread with a personal Hopkins connection has suggested going to Pomona for undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

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Hopkins is by far the most important research facility in the USA it gets more than twice the funding of any other institution. Pomona? Lolz.

But where would you rather go to school as an undergrad? I believe that's the question. not which school gets more research funding. The answer is Pomona.

In that case. If you are tough, smart and resilient go to Hopkins. If you are smart and have been helicopter parented and are a shrinking violet that is easily upset and prone to breakdowns go to Pomona.

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Anonymous wrote:only at DCUM is some obscure lac comparable to one of the world's greatest universities.

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Hopkins is by far the most important research facility in the USA it gets more than twice the funding of any other institution. Pomona? Lolz.

But where would you rather go to school as an undergrad? I believe that's the question. not which school gets more research funding. The answer is Pomona.

In that case. If you are tough, smart and resilient go to Hopkins. If you are smart and have been helicopter parented and are a shrinking violet that is easily upset and prone to breakdowns go to Pomona.

I taught at Hopkins while a grad student and it seemed like a tough, unpleasant place for undergrads. As far as I can see, everyone on this thread with a personal Hopkins connection has suggested going to Pomona for undergrad.

Nope. I’m a former Hopkins prof who recommended it as an excellent place for undergrads who are seriously considering careers in academia. Which is how OP described her DC.