Pomona or Johns Hopkins

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

How much do you reallyreally know about Pomona College and it’s recognition? I question this because Pomona College is not in the city of Pomona. Good try though!

Shows you how well known Pomona is. Most people in CA connect Pomona with the horrendous crime rate in the city of Pomona, one of the murder capitals of CA.

And most people in the US connect Baltimore with the horrendous crime rate, one of the murder capitals of the US, corruption, failing schools, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

How much do you reallyreally know about Pomona College and it’s recognition? I question this because Pomona College is not in the city of Pomona. Good try though!

Shows you how well known Pomona is. Most people in CA connect Pomona with the horrendous crime rate in the city of Pomona, one of the murder capitals of CA.

And most people in the US connect Baltimore with the horrendous crime rate, one of the murder capitals of the US, corruption, failing schools, etc.

I am in CA. I connect JHU with medical schools, same way I'd connect Minnesota with Mayo Clinic. It's just like Harvard, Yale, Princeton. JHU Peabody Conservatory is also well known. Pomona? Meh.

[Anonymous]

Pomona for undergrad
Hopkins or Cal Tech for grad

Easy peasy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

How much do you reallyreally know about Pomona College and it’s recognition? I question this because Pomona College is not in the city of Pomona. Good try though!

Shows you how well known Pomona is. Most people in CA connect Pomona with the horrendous crime rate in the city of Pomona, one of the murder capitals of CA.

And most people in the US connect Baltimore with the horrendous crime rate, one of the murder capitals of the US, corruption, failing schools, etc.

I am in CA. I connect JHU with medical schools, same way I'd connect Minnesota with Mayo Clinic. It's just like Harvard, Yale, Princeton. JHU Peabody Conservatory is also well known. Pomona? Meh.

I don't think anyone should care what you connect with anything. Pomona is a more selective school than Hopkins, and it has a great reputation. You may argue that Hopkins has more name recognition, especially on the east coast, but those in the know will know Pomona, and those in the know are really the only ones I'd care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

How much do you reallyreally know about Pomona College and it’s recognition? I question this because Pomona College is not in the city of Pomona. Good try though!

Shows you how well known Pomona is. Most people in CA connect Pomona with the horrendous crime rate in the city of Pomona, one of the murder capitals of CA.

And most people in the US connect Baltimore with the horrendous crime rate, one of the murder capitals of the US, corruption, failing schools, etc.

I am in CA. I connect JHU with medical schools, same way I'd connect Minnesota with Mayo Clinic. It's just like Harvard, Yale, Princeton. JHU Peabody Conservatory is also well known. Pomona? Meh.

I don't think anyone should care what you connect with anything. Pomona is a more selective school than Hopkins, and it has a great reputation. You may argue that Hopkins has more name recognition, especially on the east coast, but those in the know will know Pomona, and those in the know are really the only ones I'd care about.

JHU isn't too shabby, right up there with HYPS.

[Anonymous]

My kid did an overnight at Pomona and really loved it too and described a passionate, smart but fun group of students. As far as CS goes your kid can take CS classes at Harvey Mudd because of the consortium set-up. It's also a short train ride to Pasadena and then further into downtown LA - the light rail is just short blocks away. I think the choice should be about fit.

Urban vs. suburban
Liberal arts vs. Larger research university
Etc.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, but they are very different schools in terms of vibe and atmosphere.

I might be missing something about the 22% with mental disabilities comments. Just a reminder that young adulthood/college-age is that age when mental illnesses like schizophrenia present themselves, so people should really check themselves and their comments before judging so harshly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid did an overnight at Pomona and really loved it too and described a passionate, smart but fun group of students. As far as CS goes your kid can take CS classes at Harvey Mudd because of the consortium set-up. It's also a short train ride to Pasadena and then further into downtown LA - the light rail is just short blocks away. I think the choice should be about fit.

Urban vs. suburban
Liberal arts vs. Larger research university
Etc.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, but they are very different schools in terms of vibe and atmosphere.

I might be missing something about the 22% with mental disabilities comments. Just a reminder that young adulthood/college-age is that age when mental illnesses like schizophrenia present themselves, so people should really check themselves and their comments before judging so harshly.

That 22% is from the other DCUM thread. It's just bizarre. Reasonable minds seem very critical - and rightly so. Either these Pomona people need help or they are just gaming the system. Either way, it's pretty sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both strong schools, but Pomona probably is more appealing. It has a reputation of being excellent for academics but also a supportive environment for undergrads. Johns Hopkins is a little more oriented to graduate programs, professional programs--even though it is an amazing university all around. Pomona also has better weather and the vibe of the colleges in that area are great.

Anonymous wrote:I'd pick Pomona for the better weather, reputation, location, fellow schools, happier students and overall feel.

I went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad and I disagree about the weather. This is only true in the sense that "it doesn't snow". The Claremont Colleges are in a horribly smoggy area. You're right near the freeway and it's basically like sucking on an exhaust pipe 365 days of the year. You are nowhere near the beach and you don't get any kind of ocean breeze.

That aside, Claremont Colleges have a more suburban feel versus the urban feel of Hopkins.

I frequent Claremont often and I've never seen any smog these days

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JH for STEM, Pomona for lib arts.
JH is awesome for bio, chem, engineering, pre-med, physics, math, etc.

Pomona is pushed by the Big 3 for their middle students who like to write and will go to grad school to really pick a discipline or job tract.

Pomona is harder to get into than Johns Hopkins

[Anonymous]

Johns Hopkins. This shouldn’t even be up for debate. Or the debate should end after 25 seconds of discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did an overnight at Pomona and really loved it too and described a passionate, smart but fun group of students. As far as CS goes your kid can take CS classes at Harvey Mudd because of the consortium set-up. It's also a short train ride to Pasadena and then further into downtown LA - the light rail is just short blocks away. I think the choice should be about fit.

Urban vs. suburban
Liberal arts vs. Larger research university
Etc.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, but they are very different schools in terms of vibe and atmosphere.

I might be missing something about the 22% with mental disabilities comments. Just a reminder that young adulthood/college-age is that age when mental illnesses like schizophrenia present themselves, so people should really check themselves and their comments before judging so harshly.

That 22% is from the other DCUM thread. It's just bizarre. Reasonable minds seem very critical - and rightly so. Either these Pomona people need help or they are just gaming the system. Either way, it's pretty sick.

25% of college aged students have a diagnosable mental illness. At elite schools like Pomona and Hopkins, I'm sure the number is higher. Maybe Pomona does a better job identifying those students in order to provide them the resources they need? There's fundamentally no difference in the "smarts" of the two groups. If anything, Hopkins has by far the more neurotic student body. Pomona on the other hand is filled with modest, friendly, folks. Even if that might be superficial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both strong schools, but Pomona probably is more appealing. It has a reputation of being excellent for academics but also a supportive environment for undergrads. Johns Hopkins is a little more oriented to graduate programs, professional programs--even though it is an amazing university all around. Pomona also has better weather and the vibe of the colleges in that area are great.

Anonymous wrote:I'd pick Pomona for the better weather, reputation, location, fellow schools, happier students and overall feel.

I went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad and I disagree about the weather. This is only true in the sense that "it doesn't snow". The Claremont Colleges are in a horribly smoggy area. You're right near the freeway and it's basically like sucking on an exhaust pipe 365 days of the year. You are nowhere near the beach and you don't get any kind of ocean breeze.

That aside, Claremont Colleges have a more suburban feel versus the urban feel of Hopkins.

I frequent Claremont often and I've never seen any smog these days

Your use of the word “often” is superfluous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is well known to those in the know. Outside the city of Pomona, however, there can be problems with name recognition. JHU, however, is well known to those in the know as well as the general public. JHU is known even to gifted elementary school students who are tested for JHU CTY gifted education program from 4th grade on.

Pomona is in Claremont, dunce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Johns Hopkins. This shouldn’t even be up for debate. Or the debate should end after 25 seconds of discussion.

Why is JHU a no brainer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both strong schools, but Pomona probably is more appealing. It has a reputation of being excellent for academics but also a supportive environment for undergrads. Johns Hopkins is a little more oriented to graduate programs, professional programs--even though it is an amazing university all around. Pomona also has better weather and the vibe of the colleges in that area are great.

Anonymous wrote:I'd pick Pomona for the better weather, reputation, location, fellow schools, happier students and overall feel.

I went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad and I disagree about the weather. This is only true in the sense that "it doesn't snow". The Claremont Colleges are in a horribly smoggy area. You're right near the freeway and it's basically like sucking on an exhaust pipe 365 days of the year. You are nowhere near the beach and you don't get any kind of ocean breeze.

That aside, Claremont Colleges have a more suburban feel versus the urban feel of Hopkins.

I frequent Claremont often and I've never seen any smog these days

Wasn't is Claremont McKenna that was caught cheating the USNews ranking game by fudging the stats? Figures. These people seem to have no morals.

Your use of the word “often” is superfluous.