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[Anonymous]

I really don't think people are moving heaven and earth to get into the best schools. They picked a house first and then the scrambled for best school. If you buy into most expensive neighborhood, you don't have to try for charters.
The best they can do is rent IB to a good school for ca 2 years and move. Too many not doing it, not moving heaven and earth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thomson is adding another Pre-K class next year, so it will be a good year for OOB to try to get in

What is the source for this information? Is there a source somewhere that shows how many lottery spots each school will have for 2018-19 for PK-3?

The only way to get this is from the principal, usually mentioned during an open house. Always lots of rumors flying, and some turn out to be wrong. DCPS does NOT release this information. DCPS classes seem to be added a) post-renovation b) when IB enrollment is inching up (assuming there is space).

Other than this, growth almost always happens at the Title 1 (low income) schools where the need is greatest.

It was mentioned at EdFest

[Anonymous]

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+1. And I doubt they even live in DC.

From the looks of this place, there seem to be a lot of closet terrible people in DC. I'm not surprised in the least that a DC resident thinks like this. I thought DC was progressive when we moved here but dcum has just taught me people secretly think like this. Which is more dangerous than people who are open with their racist and classist feelings.

look snowflake upper middle class people and upper class are in a rat race to secure the next generation. There simply aren't enough spots at top colleges for people to be worried about hurting feelings or taking a chance on mixing with people who don't value education or have the intelligence to keep up.

This. So much economic anxiety, and that is what is driving this. The current generation of middle-class Americans is the first in decades to be doing less-well than their parents (on the whole, plenty of exceptions out there in anecdata), and they are desperate to try to give their kids the best chance of success and seem to view our society as a zero-sum game.

correct,its not even that why would anyone want to take a gamble on the education quality of their child. I don't care what your SES is you are going to move heaven and Earth to get into the school with the best opportunities for your child

That means buying in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford and trying all the charter and lottery tricks in the book.

Now what DCUM is ignorant of is that everyone does this. There are plenty of people in say ward 8 that are trying to get into certain schools/charters etc. Now most of DCUM would laugh at where they are trying to go but it's the best they can do. Noone is sitting around, DC has over 70% OOB remember.

PP, I think you should consider advocating for expanded vouchers as a true passport for Ward 8 families to get a leg up in life.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ you are a sad and horrible person.

+1. And I doubt they even live in DC.

From the looks of this place, there seem to be a lot of closet terrible people in DC. I'm not surprised in the least that a DC resident thinks like this. I thought DC was progressive when we moved here but dcum has just taught me people secretly think like this. Which is more dangerous than people who are open with their racist and classist feelings.

look snowflake upper middle class people and upper class are in a rat race to secure the next generation. There simply aren't enough spots at top colleges for people to be worried about hurting feelings or taking a chance on mixing with people who don't value education or have the intelligence to keep up.

This. So much economic anxiety, and that is what is driving this. The current generation of middle-class Americans is the first in decades to be doing less-well than their parents (on the whole, plenty of exceptions out there in anecdata), and they are desperate to try to give their kids the best chance of success and seem to view our society as a zero-sum game.

correct,its not even that why would anyone want to take a gamble on the education quality of their child. I don't care what your SES is you are going to move heaven and Earth to get into the school with the best opportunities for your child

That means buying in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford and trying all the charter and lottery tricks in the book.

Now what DCUM is ignorant of is that everyone does this. There are plenty of people in say ward 8 that are trying to get into certain schools/charters etc. Now most of DCUM would laugh at where they are trying to go but it's the best they can do. Noone is sitting around, DC has over 70% OOB remember.

PP, I think you should consider advocating for expanded vouchers as a true passport for Ward 8 families to get a leg up in life.

KIPP and DC academy do a great job in elementary school. Results aren't as great in middle school but all of DCPS and DCCPS suck in middle school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ you are a sad and horrible person.

+1. And I doubt they even live in DC.

From the looks of this place, there seem to be a lot of closet terrible people in DC. I'm not surprised in the least that a DC resident thinks like this. I thought DC was progressive when we moved here but dcum has just taught me people secretly think like this. Which is more dangerous than people who are open with their racist and classist feelings.

look snowflake upper middle class people and upper class are in a rat race to secure the next generation. There simply aren't enough spots at top colleges for people to be worried about hurting feelings or taking a chance on mixing with people who don't value education or have the intelligence to keep up.

This. So much economic anxiety, and that is what is driving this. The current generation of middle-class Americans is the first in decades to be doing less-well than their parents (on the whole, plenty of exceptions out there in anecdata), and they are desperate to try to give their kids the best chance of success and seem to view our society as a zero-sum game.

correct,its not even that why would anyone want to take a gamble on the education quality of their child. I don't care what your SES is you are going to move heaven and Earth to get into the school with the best opportunities for your child

That means buying in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford and trying all the charter and lottery tricks in the book.

Now what DCUM is ignorant of is that everyone does this. There are plenty of people in say ward 8 that are trying to get into certain schools/charters etc. Now most of DCUM would laugh at where they are trying to go but it's the best they can do. Noone is sitting around, DC has over 70% OOB remember.

PP, I think you should consider advocating for expanded vouchers as a true passport for Ward 8 families to get a leg up in life.

NP here, the vouchers don't offer much for a Ward 8 family to pay the difference in the schools tuition.

[Anonymous]

The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

I recall there was a big study that showed the only advantage was the parent of kids in the voucher schools felt their child was safer. Academically those kids performed worse than their peers out of the voucher program. An important study, but De Voss said the evidence did not matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ you are a sad and horrible person.

+1. And I doubt they even live in DC.

From the looks of this place, there seem to be a lot of closet terrible people in DC. I'm not surprised in the least that a DC resident thinks like this. I thought DC was progressive when we moved here but dcum has just taught me people secretly think like this. Which is more dangerous than people who are open with their racist and classist feelings.

look snowflake upper middle class people and upper class are in a rat race to secure the next generation. There simply aren't enough spots at top colleges for people to be worried about hurting feelings or taking a chance on mixing with people who don't value education or have the intelligence to keep up.

This. So much economic anxiety, and that is what is driving this. The current generation of middle-class Americans is the first in decades to be doing less-well than their parents (on the whole, plenty of exceptions out there in anecdata), and they are desperate to try to give their kids the best chance of success and seem to view our society as a zero-sum game.

correct,its not even that why would anyone want to take a gamble on the education quality of their child. I don't care what your SES is you are going to move heaven and Earth to get into the school with the best opportunities for your child

That means buying in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford and trying all the charter and lottery tricks in the book.

Now what DCUM is ignorant of is that everyone does this. There are plenty of people in say ward 8 that are trying to get into certain schools/charters etc. Now most of DCUM would laugh at where they are trying to go but it's the best they can do. Noone is sitting around, DC has over 70% OOB remember.

PP, I think you should consider advocating for expanded vouchers as a true passport for Ward 8 families to get a leg up in life.

NP here, the vouchers don't offer much for a Ward 8 family to pay the difference in the schools tuition.

Wrong. It's a full pay at a parochial where your kid will be safe and able to learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ you are a sad and horrible person.

+1. And I doubt they even live in DC.

From the looks of this place, there seem to be a lot of closet terrible people in DC. I'm not surprised in the least that a DC resident thinks like this. I thought DC was progressive when we moved here but dcum has just taught me people secretly think like this. Which is more dangerous than people who are open with their racist and classist feelings.

look snowflake upper middle class people and upper class are in a rat race to secure the next generation. There simply aren't enough spots at top colleges for people to be worried about hurting feelings or taking a chance on mixing with people who don't value education or have the intelligence to keep up.

This. So much economic anxiety, and that is what is driving this. The current generation of middle-class Americans is the first in decades to be doing less-well than their parents (on the whole, plenty of exceptions out there in anecdata), and they are desperate to try to give their kids the best chance of success and seem to view our society as a zero-sum game.

correct,its not even that why would anyone want to take a gamble on the education quality of their child. I don't care what your SES is you are going to move heaven and Earth to get into the school with the best opportunities for your child

That means buying in the most expensive neighborhood you can afford and trying all the charter and lottery tricks in the book.

Now what DCUM is ignorant of is that everyone does this. There are plenty of people in say ward 8 that are trying to get into certain schools/charters etc. Now most of DCUM would laugh at where they are trying to go but it's the best they can do. Noone is sitting around, DC has over 70% OOB remember.

PP, I think you should consider advocating for expanded vouchers as a true passport for Ward 8 families to get a leg up in life.

NP here, the vouchers don't offer much for a Ward 8 family to pay the difference in the schools tuition.

Many of the area’s parochial schools have closed. A half dozen or so reopened as Center City charter.

Wrong. It's a full pay at a parochial where your kid will be safe and able to learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

I recall there was a big study that showed the only advantage was the parent of kids in the voucher schools felt their child was safer. Academically those kids performed worse than their peers out of the voucher program. An important study, but De Voss said the evidence did not matter.

Exactly. Student safety (real or perceived) is important. But those students are having WORSE educational outcomes than those in the schools they left behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

What!!?? I didnt even know school vouchers were a thing here. Why doesn't some nonprofit try to run a high quality lean ship that can do this too??? (Tuition as exact same rate as voucher)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

What!!?? I didnt even know school vouchers were a thing here. Why doesn't some nonprofit try to run a high quality lean ship that can do this too??? (Tuition as exact same rate as voucher)

Because you can't actually run a high quality school on a budget that is half that of a public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

What!!?? I didnt even know school vouchers were a thing here. Why doesn't some nonprofit try to run a high quality lean ship that can do this too??? (Tuition as exact same rate as voucher)

Because you can't actually run a high quality school on a budget that is half that of a public school.

Wrong again. Parochials do a fine job with the current voucher amount. A non-profit could likely do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who get vouchers will also get financial aid — if they go to a good school.

But there are also some really crappy private schools that have popped up — and their tuition rates are exactly the amount of the vouchers.

Since there is no oversight on quality of the education provided via a DC voucher, all sorts of actors have swept into the market. And some are pretty bad.

The students in public charters focused on at-risk kids have better outcomes than the students going to school on vouchers. The Post wrote a study on a study of this last year.

What!!?? I didnt even know school vouchers were a thing here. Why doesn't some nonprofit try to run a high quality lean ship that can do this too??? (Tuition as exact same rate as voucher)

http://servingourchildrendc.org/

No way you could run a school on $8k per kid.

[Anonymous]

The vouchers provide $8800/year for K-8. Most parochial tuition (see list on program website) is higher than that.