Housewife vs SAHM

[Anonymous]

Different functions. My mother was a SAHM for 25 years. Now she is a housewife.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^ I've come to believe the difference between working moms and sahms/housewives is lack of efficiency in the latter group.

In our school, many of the room moms and volunteers are moms that at least still work part-time. The sahs are too over-whelmed and always want to tell you how busy they are.

ITA!! I work full time and also manage our household and carpool and volunteer and all the other nonsensical crap SAHMs do.

Managing a household and carpooling and volunteering is nonsensical crap? Or is it only nonsensical crap when people do it who (a) are women and (b) don't work for pay?

The Mommy Wars are stupid and distracting. Can we please stop them already?

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.

You know what I mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.

You know what I mean.

No, I don't. Really, I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.

You know what I mean.

No, I don't. Really, I don't.

The dads care if the kids' shoes fit. It is usually the moms taking the kids out to get new shoes, though. I saw it when we were out back to school shopping the other day. More moms or Moms + Dads out shopping for back to school stuff than Dads out shopping solo with their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.

Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.

Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.

So I guess we still need more women's lib.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid

Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?

Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.

I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.

You know what I mean.

No, I don't. Really, I don't.

Really? You either view the men you know through rose colored glasses or you are in complete denial. Who writes the shopping list, plans meals, shops, schedules appointments, etc, etc.. around your house the majority of the time? Who recognizes and anticipates the children's needs the majority of the time?Who does the laundry, makes the bed each day, loads and empties the dishwasher daily? Who does the majority of the household management? A man? I doubt that! I will never believe that in a heterosexual marriage, the man does the majority of the work. No matter how much you may insist.

[Anonymous]

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Really? You either view the men you know through rose colored glasses or you are in complete denial. Who writes the shopping list, plans meals, shops, schedules appointments, etc, etc.. around your house the majority of the time? Who recognizes and anticipates the children's needs the majority of the time?Who does the laundry, makes the bed each day, loads and empties the dishwasher daily? Who does the majority of the household management? A man? I doubt that! I will never believe that in a heterosexual marriage, the man does the majority of the work. No matter how much you may insist.

Why is it the woman who does the majority of the household work, in a heterosexual marriage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.

Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.

So I guess we still need more women's lib.

Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.

Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.

So I guess we still need more women's lib.

Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".

Well this is weird. Families don't exist in a vacuum. We all live in a society, and an economy.