Yeah, you and the other cheapskates mentioned this before. But it doesn't respond to the point that wait staff in most states are *excluded* from minimum wage requirements. |
NP here. It never even occurred to me to look at the pre-tax amount. I glance at the total bill and double the first number. $53 becomes a $10 tip. I don’t over think it. I don’t go cheap, but I also don’t over compensate for the restaurant industry’s failures. |
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We get a lot of bad tippers. The way they tip has nothing to do with service they received. They even say how much they loved it and then 17-15% max. We get lots of older folks who seem to think that 15% is great, foreigners who only pay what the last line says and young people on budget. We already know who tips and who doesn't and try to give the tables away. If you don't tip, I have to use my tip from another table to pay bartender, busser and food runner.
Sunday customers are the worst. OP, why don't you tell your friend or co-worker to tip better. One day a server will tell him/her in front of everybody. Another PP, you are probably right," no one is entitled to a tip", and you are not entitled to keep my table busy without paying for it. I don't come to your work and keep you from making money. Don't tell me that there are plenty of empty tables, those are not my tables. People are so clueless. Best is when they come sit down and say that it's lent and they don't eat or that they are not hungry. Go sit in a bathroom even though you don't need to go. At least I can make money. |
+1 This is standard. Anyone tipping less than that, provided the service is excellent, is being rude. If you can't afford to tip properly, perhaps you shouldn't be dining out. |
Not my problem. They *chose* to go into the industry. And even in states with minimum wage they still expect tips. It's a stupid tradition and needs to go the way of the dodo bird. I do leave tips, but what I think is appropriate and not what they think is appropriate. |
| I tip 18% and then round up, so that’s $10. |
Says who? |
| I tip 50% of the post-tax bill, or $25, whichever is greater. If you can't afford that, stay home and eat. |
Most people wouldn’t be able to eat out! The industry would collapse overnight if people had to leave 50% tips. |
NP. A 20% tip on the pretax amount is fine. I also leave a $5 daily tip for the hotel housekeeper. |
I think pp was being sarcastic. |
| My father waited tables as a young man and always tipped generously on the pre-tax amount. I think what some people don’t realize is that was the standard and passed down by older generations. |
What do you consider an appropriate tip? Do you calculate that on the pretax or total amount? |
| $10 |
Wow. Entitled much? 15% is a perfectly adequate tip. |