Politics and your church

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

Its just so unbelievable to me that people would look at Trump (pro business, pro wall street, greedy, three times married, wanting to ban those less fortunate from the country, against the environment, against the poor) and think that HRC is literally a laughable comparison.

I completely understand why christians would feel uncomfortable voting for her. But deciding which is worse, vehicular manslaughter vs tying someone to a table and slicing them up isn't hard. They are both bad but one is OBVIOUSLY way worse. This is what I think this election really was, and instead of actually thinking about it, we keep saying 'they're both muderers!' (to extend the analogy)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

Its just so unbelievable to me that people would look at Trump (pro business, pro wall street, greedy, three times married, wanting to ban those less fortunate from the country, against the environment, against the poor) and think that HRC is literally a laughable comparison.

I completely understand why christians would feel uncomfortable voting for her. But deciding which is worse, vehicular manslaughter vs tying someone to a table and slicing them up isn't hard. They are both bad but one is OBVIOUSLY way worse. This is what I think this election really was, and instead of actually thinking about it, we keep saying 'they're both muderers!' (to extend the analogy)

+1. There is deep-seated misogyny at the root of this hatred of Hillary -- from both women and men. She broke their sacred rules of a what a "nice" woman does and it provokes their ire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My (Catholic) church this weekend said NOTHING about the effects on the refuges and immigrants to this country and so I walked out. It could have been that particular priest as far as his homily but the prayers of the faithful (for non-cathloics - a lists of 'areas of concern' that particular week that are both broad and specific.) I wrote to all the priests expressing my concern and shock at the silence but as yet have not heard back. I understand that there is a line where you cannot advocate a political point of view but to ignore a humanitarian crisis - especially as the leader of our church, Pope Francis has been so vocal about, to me is unconscionable.

My priest has talked about political issues and where the church stands on them, including abortion, helping the poor, and immigrants and refugees. One of his main points was that we are called to be true to our faith not to anyone political party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

Its just so unbelievable to me that people would look at Trump (pro business, pro wall street, greedy, three times married, wanting to ban those less fortunate from the country, against the environment, against the poor) and think that HRC is literally a laughable comparison.

I completely understand why christians would feel uncomfortable voting for her. But deciding which is worse, vehicular manslaughter vs tying someone to a table and slicing them up isn't hard. They are both bad but one is OBVIOUSLY way worse. This is what I think this election really was, and instead of actually thinking about it, we keep saying 'they're both muderers!' (to extend the analogy)

You should have said FUNDAMENTALIST christians -- they are the onlyl protestants who are against a women's right to choose. Liberal protestants an Catholics support women's rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

Its just so unbelievable to me that people would look at Trump (pro business, pro wall street, greedy, three times married, wanting to ban those less fortunate from the country, against the environment, against the poor) and think that HRC is literally a laughable comparison.

I completely understand why christians would feel uncomfortable voting for her. But deciding which is worse, vehicular manslaughter vs tying someone to a table and slicing them up isn't hard. They are both bad but one is OBVIOUSLY way worse. This is what I think this election really was, and instead of actually thinking about it, we keep saying 'they're both muderers!' (to extend the analogy)

+1. There is deep-seated misogyny at the root of this hatred of Hillary -- from both women and men. She broke their sacred rules of a what a "nice" woman does and it provokes their ire.

No. Both Clintons have engaged in a lot of legal hair splitting to protect their brand and grow their fortunes. This has nothing to do with hatred of women. I would have voted for Elizabeth Warren in a second and she is far more outspoken than Hillary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Minister. I'm working for Hospice now, but was in a church before we moved. It's not easy for church leaders right now. Thankfully, my church was very tolerant and fairly liberal. LGBTQ friendly, diverse, open to discussions on different faiths, etc. We spent a lot of time trying to live like the Christ we claimed to follow. So, while I know we had members who were Republicans and conservative, I really doubt we had anyone in our membership who would support Donald Trump.

That said, ministers avoid politics in the pulpit. For one, we risk our tax exempt status. More importantly, ministers in church leadership positions should not be politicians.

I'm not working in a church right now. I can be very active in my local political groups. And I am. I've spoken at several marches and Interfaith Prayer Breakfasts. I think clergy should be pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians turning away refugees. And frankly, if you support Donald Trump, you may claim to be a Christian, but you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ.

It's funny to watch people like this get do high and mighty but then you know they cheerfully support baby-murdering. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump was the only logical choice for an in-touch Christian?

No. But to think that Hillary was a viable choice is laughable.

Its just so unbelievable to me that people would look at Trump (pro business, pro wall street, greedy, three times married, wanting to ban those less fortunate from the country, against the environment, against the poor) and think that HRC is literally a laughable comparison.

I completely understand why christians would feel uncomfortable voting for her. But deciding which is worse, vehicular manslaughter vs tying someone to a table and slicing them up isn't hard. They are both bad but one is OBVIOUSLY way worse. This is what I think this election really was, and instead of actually thinking about it, we keep saying 'they're both muderers!' (to extend the analogy)

+1. There is deep-seated misogyny at the root of this hatred of Hillary -- from both women and men. She broke their sacred rules of a what a "nice" woman does and it provokes their ire.

No. Both Clintons have engaged in a lot of legal hair splitting to protect their brand and grow their fortunes. This has nothing to do with hatred of women. I would have voted for Elizabeth Warren in a second and she is far more outspoken than Hillary.

Yes, misogyny had NOTHING to do with it. Keep living in la la land, lady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Minister. I'm working for Hospice now, but was in a church before we moved. It's not easy for church leaders right now. Thankfully, my church was very tolerant and fairly liberal. LGBTQ friendly, diverse, open to discussions on different faiths, etc. We spent a lot of time trying to live like the Christ we claimed to follow. So, while I know we had members who were Republicans and conservative, I really doubt we had anyone in our membership who would support Donald Trump.

That said, ministers avoid politics in the pulpit. For one, we risk our tax exempt status. More importantly, ministers in church leadership positions should not be politicians.

I'm not working in a church right now. I can be very active in my local political groups. And I am. I've spoken at several marches and Interfaith Prayer Breakfasts. I think clergy should be pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians turning away refugees. And frankly, if you support Donald Trump, you may claim to be a Christian, but you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ.

It's funny to watch people like this get do high and mighty but then you know they cheerfully support baby-murdering. Whatever.

Laughing all the way to the abortion clinic!!!! NO ONE IS CHEERFUL ABOUT ABORTION.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm from Latin America and when we had military dictatorships, the Catholic church became the resistance's biggest ally. The church stood up for human rights and became a safe space for many. It also offered a moral compass against the oppression of the regime.

The pope is continuing this tradition by speaking out against Trump. I think it's a beautiful and Christian thing to do. If a church doesn't speak out against oppression, I don't think they can really call themselves Christian.

But who is being oppressed?!?! Serious question. The refugees, yes. But you can also argue that the millions of people in the Middle East who can't get to the US are oppressed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is pro Christian so if they don't like him then you know the answer

Even the pope said Trump's actions were unchristian.

Even in the age of alternative facts, turning your back on refugees is as unchristian as it gets.

Here's what I don't understand. Why is it morally okay to accept some refugees but not others? We've technically been turning our back on refugees for years. As a Christian, shouldn't you want the US to accept all refugees? Shouldn't you open your home to refugees? Why all of a sudden is there a problem?